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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:32 PM Nov 2020

Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candida

Source: The Hill

A spokesperson Dominion Voting Systems addressed conspiracy theories about the company on Fox News Sunday, saying it was “not physically possible” for its machines to change voter selections.

“This is a nonpartisan American company. It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other,” Michael Steel said on Fox News’ “America’s News HQ” Sunday.

“Let's be very clear, our election system is run by local elected officials and nonpartisan poll watchers. We simply provide a tool to count the ballots and to print and count ballots,” he added. “There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place and there are no connections between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is.”

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Pressed by Fox News’ Eric Shawn as to how he could be sure the voting machines were secure, Steel responded “[W]hen a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out their ballot on the touchscreen, they are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/527086-dominion-spokesman-it-is-not-physically-possible-for-our-machines-to-switch

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Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candida (Original Post) sabra Nov 2020 OP
our touch screen also produces a printed copy yellowdogintexas Nov 2020 #1
One question I have with the TX scanners is this: The paper ballot rainin Nov 2020 #7
We have the new machines in Georgia. The hand count of paper ballots Politicub Nov 2020 #15
But what about "the Mighty Workings"? Turbineguy Nov 2020 #2
Is God a Democrat? I thought he was an Independent? Perhaps we should ask a televangelists. Chainfire Nov 2020 #5
God wanted Trump to win DBoon Nov 2020 #9
So a simple adding machine has more power of persuasion than some almighty god? alfredo Nov 2020 #13
Perhaps why repukes are having rantrums. SheltieLover Nov 2020 #3
Diebold has been out of the voting machine business for more than a decade. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #27
but, but .. the voting rolls, the Russians, the .... stopdiggin Nov 2020 #4
In Georgia, I voted early and in person in October. klook Nov 2020 #6
And my trumper friends are screaming for the head of Kemp & Rafensberger now. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #22
Not physically possible, but electronically, you bet! That's our business model PerceptionManagement Nov 2020 #8
OK, tell us how. uncle ray Nov 2020 #10
yeah, it's not even hard to print one thing and count another. mopinko Nov 2020 #11
I really don't think they could Politicub Nov 2020 #16
ga 'updated' their software the day before the election. mopinko Nov 2020 #20
Biden won Georgia, right? MineralMan Nov 2020 #32
yeah, but ossoff and warnock didnt. mopinko Nov 2020 #33
Third party voting kept them from getting majorities. MineralMan Nov 2020 #34
They do an audit in some of the states. LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #17
yeah, i witnessed an audit mopinko Nov 2020 #19
The machines get better each year at reading the paper cards. I am surprised they get as close as LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #21
This -- Especially if it gets busy. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #25
But the recount involved counting the paper ballots & scanning THOSE. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #23
i didnt say it did, in ga. mopinko Nov 2020 #28
Anyone can say anything they make up as they go. Lock him up. Nov 2020 #12
That's just what you'd expect zombie Hugo Chavez to say! Major Nikon Nov 2020 #14
That headline came out badly Rural_Progressive Nov 2020 #18
HA! oldsoftie Nov 2020 #24
Good time to switch to Paper ballots quakerboy Nov 2020 #26
Sorry dude, IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #29
Kathmandu! Bayard Nov 2020 #30
Unsinkable! Blues Heron Nov 2020 #31

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
1. our touch screen also produces a printed copy
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:43 PM
Nov 2020

which is scanned, then stored in a locked container and sealed fpr transport to the Elections office. The touch screen has no memory and the counting is handled separately. The scanner itself goes back to the Elections Office with the ballots and the electronic poll books which are used for checking in the voters. When we check the voter in, a little piece of paper is printed with a barcode. The barcode is scanned and the voter receives an access code, which brings up the correct ballot for that voter

This system allows us to vote at any precinct in the county on Election Day; not just our "home precincts" That means we had 300 voting locations on Election Day.

Harris County (Houston) had 800.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
7. One question I have with the TX scanners is this: The paper ballot
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

shows a record of the voter's choices along with a bar code. How do I know the bar code matches the words. When audits are done, are they audited by hand or by machine?

I've always thought the paper ballot should have words only. In the event of a recount or an audit, it should be by hand only, not by machine. It's the only way that is virtually 100% hack proof.

Politicub

(12,163 posts)
15. We have the new machines in Georgia. The hand count of paper ballots
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:56 PM
Nov 2020

validated that the machine counts were correct.

I had the same concern as you until the hand audit was done. Now I have more confidence in the new system. Our old system left no paper trail - it was truly a black box.

Chainfire

(17,305 posts)
5. Is God a Democrat? I thought he was an Independent? Perhaps we should ask a televangelists.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:25 PM
Nov 2020

In any case, it will take and act of God for Trump to pull off his coup.

DBoon

(22,286 posts)
9. God wanted Trump to win
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:47 PM
Nov 2020

So obviously satanic influences are responsible for shifting votes to Biden.

stopdiggin

(11,092 posts)
4. but, but .. the voting rolls, the Russians, the ....
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

and statistical anomalies!

Crickets. Where's all the tin foil now guys?

klook

(12,134 posts)
6. In Georgia, I voted early and in person in October.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:28 PM
Nov 2020

The process was as described here. I used a touchscreen to vote, and then I had an opportunity to review the printout, and I watched as it was scanned and then retained with other ballot printouts by a poll worker.

Of course, there is a certain amount of trust required after that point, but compared to the old no-paper-trail Diebold machines we used to use, it seemed much more secure. I do think it's pretty funny that Georgia Republicans are screaming foul now, after living with the highly problematic Diebold machines for years with no complaints -- as long as their candidates were winning.

oldsoftie

(12,410 posts)
22. And my trumper friends are screaming for the head of Kemp & Rafensberger now.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 09:49 PM
Nov 2020

After falling for the truck drivin', gun totin' good 'ol boy routine 2 yrs ago instead of Casey Cagle.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
11. yeah, it's not even hard to print one thing and count another.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:44 PM
Nov 2020

a talented 10 yo could write that program.

Politicub

(12,163 posts)
16. I really don't think they could
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:58 PM
Nov 2020

and change a machine’s software.

I keep seeing this 10 year old jazz, but no one explains how.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
20. ga 'updated' their software the day before the election.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:43 PM
Nov 2020

nobody in IT does that. nobody.

and some of us have smelled a rat since 2004. HAVA was bullshit.
you should look harder. lots of ppl have explained it.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
33. yeah, but ossoff and warnock didnt.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

dominion has total control over that system. unprecedented total control.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
34. Third party voting kept them from getting majorities.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

There's a run-off election. Not everyone votes a straight party ticket. People make choices. That's easy enough to explain. Occam's Razor.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
17. They do an audit in some of the states.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:04 PM
Nov 2020

That consists of taking the totals from the scanner/tabulator. let's say Biden x. and trump y


They then take the cards out of the scanner/tabulator storage compartment.

They look at the card and see who they voted for .

In the end, Biden will have ~x and Trump will have ~y. There will be some variances as there are humans involved.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
19. yeah, i witnessed an audit
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:41 PM
Nov 2020

in '06 in a red county.
almost every precinct had an error or 2. nobody believed the precincts were rly chosen at random.
one had more votes than registered voters. that one wasnt chosen.

they said- it's ok, it wouldnt change the outcome. but it should have been enough to expand the audit. it wasnt.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
21. The machines get better each year at reading the paper cards. I am surprised they get as close as
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

they do. But then at the same time who is to say that the human reading the card did not put it in the correct bucket.

oldsoftie

(12,410 posts)
23. But the recount involved counting the paper ballots & scanning THOSE.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 09:53 PM
Nov 2020

If the machines were rigged the counts wouldnt have matched. They did; except for the few single digit human errors.
So no, it didnt happen.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
28. i didnt say it did, in ga.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 10:58 PM
Nov 2020

i just said it wouldnt be hard to do.
and w/o paper ballots and FULL audits, not a 10% count that is typical, it isnt even hard.

Lock him up.

(6,874 posts)
12. Anyone can say anything they make up as they go.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
Nov 2020
Judges demand credible physical evidence (none yet) or credible whistle-blowers working in the company (none yet).

LOCK.HIM.UP

quakerboy

(13,901 posts)
26. Good time to switch to Paper ballots
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 10:26 PM
Nov 2020

I firmly believe that if we went to paper ballots, republicans would lose a lot more elections.

When the conservatives accuse their opponents of something, The odds are its because they just did that something themselves.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
29. Sorry dude,
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 11:42 PM
Nov 2020

They are not gonna listen to you tell them the truth. The cult have all drank the Kool-Aid and jumped aboard the crazy train. Choo Choo!!! All aboard!!! Next stop Mar-a-Lago Club!!! Choo Choo!!!

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