Fri May 13, 2022, 02:45 AM
blue-wave (3,145 posts)
Russian logistics ship 'on fire in Black Sea after Ukrainian strike'
Source: The Independent
‘Vsevolod Bobrov logistics ship, one of the newest in the Russian fleet, set on fire,’ says regional official. A Russian logistics ship caught fire after after being struck in the Black Sea, forcing it to return to port, according to a Ukrainian official. Vsevolod Bobrov was apparently hit off the coast of Snake Island and was left “limping” back to Sevastopol. Serhiy Bratchuk, a spokesman for the Odesa Regional Military Administration, said: “As a result of the actions of our Navy, the Vsevolod Bobrov logistics ship, one of the newest in the Russian fleet, set on fire. They say she is limping toward Sevastopol.” However the spokesman added that “the information is yet to be clarified”, and The Independent has been unable to verify the report. Mr Bratchuk said the vessel was “brand new”, having arrived at its Sevastopol base on 17 February, a week before Russia launched its invasion. Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-naval-ship-fire-ukraine-b2077948.html
|
18 replies, 2591 views
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
blue-wave | Friday | OP |
cstanleytech | Friday | #1 | |
2naSalit | Friday | #2 | |
Warpy | Friday | #8 | |
cstanleytech | Friday | #9 | |
Warpy | Friday | #10 | |
quakerboy | Saturday | #16 | |
ChazInAz | Friday | #12 | |
sprinkleeninow | Friday | #3 | |
oldsoftie | Friday | #4 | |
vlyons | Friday | #5 | |
Ray Bruns | Friday | #6 | |
Igel | Friday | #11 | |
LT Barclay | Saturday | #15 | |
Ray Bruns | Sunday | #17 | |
TomSlick | Friday | #13 | |
IronLionZion | Friday | #7 | |
dalton99a | Friday | #14 | |
ck4829 | Tuesday | #18 |
Response to blue-wave (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 04:12 AM
cstanleytech (23,767 posts)
1. At this rate there won't be any Russian military vessels left in the Black Sea.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Fri May 13, 2022, 05:18 AM
2naSalit (58,402 posts)
2. Hopefully soon!
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Fri May 13, 2022, 11:39 AM
Warpy (102,754 posts)
8. I'm afraid Russia has many more ships than Ukraine has Neptune missiles
but I think Russia might be second guessing an assault by sea on Odessa.
|
Response to Warpy (Reply #8)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:52 PM
cstanleytech (23,767 posts)
9. Unless they get Turkey to allow transit thru the Turkish Straits Russia cannot get new ships into
the Black Sea to replace them.
|
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #9)
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:45 PM
Warpy (102,754 posts)
10. Do you honestly think Turkey is going to stop a warship?
What they've said and what they'll actually do might be quite different things.
While Russia would be far wiser not to blast their way through or even threaten to do so, nothing they have done over the last few months can be classified as wise. Shoot, nothing they've done since the days of Boris Yeltsin can be classified as wise. The only question is whether it will provoke a war with NATO. It might not do that, as there is a treaty agreement in place allowing them free transit there. |
Response to Warpy (Reply #10)
Sat May 14, 2022, 04:54 AM
quakerboy (13,319 posts)
16. Do you honestly think turkey even WANTS to stop a warship?
They are standing as close to Russia as they can get away with without losing the perks of associating with western countries.
|
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Fri May 13, 2022, 06:58 PM
ChazInAz (1,997 posts)
12. There will still be plenty IN the Black Sea.
The number left ON it will be small.
As an amusing side note, future marine archeologists will be delighted. The cold, anoxic depths of the sea do a wonderful job of preserving ship wrecks. Roman merchant vessels, with cargo intact, have been found down there. |
Response to blue-wave (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 05:20 AM
sprinkleeninow (15,557 posts)
3. 😫
Sad Trombone
|
Response to blue-wave (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 06:24 AM
oldsoftie (8,743 posts)
4. Shove it up your ass Putin. Russia's "logistics" are non existent.
Response to blue-wave (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:01 AM
vlyons (8,355 posts)
5. What's a logistics ship?
What is its function?
|
Response to vlyons (Reply #5)
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:24 AM
Ray Bruns (1,283 posts)
6. Runs supplies to the troops. Food, Fuel, medicine.
Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #6)
Fri May 13, 2022, 06:43 PM
Igel (32,648 posts)
11. According to the Great Wiki,
it can haul cargo, tow ships, conduct "hydrographic" research, provide emergency assistance to other ships in need. (Non-western) GPS allows it to engage in station keeping under any meteorolocal conditions. It has two cranes able to lift 50 tonnes each, towing winches able to handle 25 and 120 tons tension, a cargo deck of more than 700 sq m. It has a diver unit with a decompression chamber.
Entered service within the last year. This is from the Russian wiki article specifically on the Vsevolod Bobrov. ("Vsevolod Beaver" ![]() https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_(%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE) Personally I like that it was there in case it needed to provide assistance. To. Wounded. Ships. Russian. Ships. Proposed new song for the Russian Navy: |
Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #6)
Sat May 14, 2022, 02:24 AM
LT Barclay (2,067 posts)
15. Since you are USN, maybe you would know, but to me this doesn't look like a military supply vessel
it appears to be a vessel used to supply oil platforms.
There are other vessels that would be a much more efficient means of supplying troops, unless the Russians were just desperate for anything that floats. |
Response to LT Barclay (Reply #15)
Sun May 15, 2022, 02:31 PM
Ray Bruns (1,283 posts)
17. I was in the Navy for five years. Some of ours were USN but most are with the
Military Sealift Command. They do all kinds of things (Besides Supply) but I don't think they do all of what Wiki was saying that ship did.
|
Response to vlyons (Reply #5)
Fri May 13, 2022, 11:03 PM
TomSlick (9,558 posts)
13. Logistics is the art and science of supplying combat units with necessary supplies,
e.g. food, fuel, and ammunition. A logistical ship would be an important link in the network that moves supplies from the suppliers to the fighting troops.
Combat soldiers win or lose battles. Logisticians win or lose wars. |
Response to blue-wave (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:02 AM
IronLionZion (38,178 posts)