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demmiblue

(36,743 posts)
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:31 PM May 2022

Exclusive: Trump Is Telling Allies His Record on Abortion Could Hurt His 2024 Chances

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Rolling Stone

Trump fears that by laying the groundwork to overturn Roe v. Wade, he has enraged ‘suburban women’ and given his enemies an opening, sources tell Rolling Stone

Donald Trump is on the precipice of achieving the most lasting and impactful part of his presidential legacy, as the justices he put on the Supreme Court prepare to help overturn Roe v. Wade and cement the former president’s status as a hero to social conservatives. But for a man who rarely opens his mouth without talking about his own (real or alleged) achievements, Trump has been near-silent on abortion since it became clear Roe was going under.

Instead, Trump has been privately fretting about what the impending collapse of abortion rights will do for his own political prospects, telling those close to him that the issue could hurt him with “suburban women” should he try to retake the White House in 2024. “Suburban women have been a recurring concern for [former] President Trump, including during the 2020 campaign, when his smarter advisers were sounding the alarm to him about how he was losing suburbs. He is … worried women in the suburbs could punish him for this one day, [too],” said a person familiar with the matter.

In the weeks since a draft opinion to overturn Roe was revealed, Trump has barely talked about the issue during interviews, at political rallies, and in his social media posts. According to two sources familiar with the matter, this is indeed an intentional and calculated silence. In recent days, Trump has told some of his allies and counselors that “suburban women” and other key voting groups don’t like hearing about the issue, as they are simply more pro-choice than the mainstream of the Republican Party and conservative movement. He has also told several associates that if he went too hard now on the topic of overturning Roe, it would give his enemies the chance to “use it against” him — the strong implication being, according to the two sources, that if Trump ultimately runs for the White House again in 2024, it could be more a political liability than an asset.

And, naturally, Trump has recently solicited printouts of the latest polling on the subject, according to the two people familiar with the situation.

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-2024-abortion-roevswade-1356278/

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Exclusive: Trump Is Telling Allies His Record on Abortion Could Hurt His 2024 Chances (Original Post) demmiblue May 2022 OP
Thank You for Posting This. Trump may think he can retake the White House in 2024, but the only Stuart G May 2022 #1
He's already making excuses not to run. He fears getting... brush May 2022 #2
Well, I don't know about that but I know Dan May 2022 #3
Ditto. brush May 2022 #5
Tritto. I know that's not a word, but humor me. COL Mustard May 2022 #14
It's a word now, and I agree with it. brush May 2022 #18
Please don't dis dogs, they're the best, personally speaking Cozmo May 2022 #12
I agree. StarryNite May 2022 #24
Shows he's not entirely delusional. Ya think it might hurt you, you orange pustule? nt Hekate May 2022 #4
Apparently, he's not quite as dumb as he looks PatSeg May 2022 #17
Nah. Someone from the trump camp may have ordered... brush May 2022 #19
True and his memory really sucks PatSeg May 2022 #22
Nah, still delusional. Still dumb. Laha May 2022 #27
In that he paid for many Fullduplexxx May 2022 #6
That was my first thought not fooled May 2022 #10
WOMEN HATE TRUMP EVEN MORE, if that were possible. Trueblue1968 May 2022 #7
Wow. He's right for once. Noahv May 2022 #8
Excellent I'm glad he will be recorded in history for being the President who though his SC picks kimbutgar May 2022 #9
Why is that ironic...? regnaD kciN May 2022 #21
Not to mention his record on women, governing, insurrection, bankruptcy, and the Big Lie bucolic_frolic May 2022 #11
If Trump believes this, he will magically claim to be pro-choice if he decides to run in 2024 Raven123 May 2022 #13
and prove it by bragging about the abortions he paid for rurallib May 2022 #15
I still cannot believe at least ONE of those stories has never come out. oldsoftie May 2022 #23
Okay, let's be honest - he didn't come up with this on his own TlalocW May 2022 #16
The prick is already preparing to either lose,... SpankMe May 2022 #20
It just shows he doesn't believe what he has said about being "pro life". StarryNite May 2022 #25
Trump RobinA May 2022 #26
Locking JudyM May 2022 #28

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
1. Thank You for Posting This. Trump may think he can retake the White House in 2024, but the only
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:37 PM
May 2022

thing he is going to take is a very small "prison cell"

brush

(53,467 posts)
2. He's already making excuses not to run. He fears getting...
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:44 PM
May 2022

beaten again by Joe Biden. And that will happen if he runs.

Women who've had their rights taken away have long memories.

Dan

(3,524 posts)
3. Well, I don't know about that but I know
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:46 PM
May 2022

That I would vote for a dog before I would vote for Trump.

brush

(53,467 posts)
5. Ditto.
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:48 PM
May 2022

COL Mustard

(5,782 posts)
14. Tritto. I know that's not a word, but humor me.
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:39 PM
May 2022

brush

(53,467 posts)
18. It's a word now, and I agree with it.
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:34 PM
May 2022

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
12. Please don't dis dogs, they're the best, personally speaking
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:21 PM
May 2022

StarryNite

(9,363 posts)
24. I agree.
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:19 PM
May 2022

And I'll go a step beyond what you said. I don't like negative things being said about wolves or turtles either!

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
4. Shows he's not entirely delusional. Ya think it might hurt you, you orange pustule? nt
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:48 PM
May 2022

PatSeg

(46,789 posts)
17. Apparently, he's not quite as dumb as he looks
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:20 PM
May 2022

brush

(53,467 posts)
19. Nah. Someone from the trump camp may have ordered...
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:37 PM
May 2022

Last edited Fri May 20, 2022, 06:38 PM - Edit history (1)

those reports but he's not reading them. Just as he never read the president's daily briefs. Remember they had to put pictures of him or print his name many times to get him to read anything while he was president.

PatSeg

(46,789 posts)
22. True and his memory really sucks
Fri May 20, 2022, 06:32 PM
May 2022

The only things he remembers vividly are the names and faces of his enemies. The thought of what went on in that White House for four years is absolutely terrifying.

Laha

(407 posts)
27. Nah, still delusional. Still dumb.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:45 PM
May 2022

I noticed he showed not one iota of concern for the women who may be hurt by this - it was his potential polling numbers that got him worried.

So also still a deranged, narcissistic fascist.

Fullduplexxx

(7,818 posts)
6. In that he paid for many
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:58 PM
May 2022

not fooled

(5,791 posts)
10. That was my first thought
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:15 PM
May 2022

but the fundynuts don't care as long as he panders to them now.

Trueblue1968

(17,138 posts)
7. WOMEN HATE TRUMP EVEN MORE, if that were possible.
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:07 PM
May 2022

i want him GONE from the face of the earth.

 

Noahv

(61 posts)
8. Wow. He's right for once.
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:09 PM
May 2022

He's right that he fucked up.

kimbutgar

(20,873 posts)
9. Excellent I'm glad he will be recorded in history for being the President who though his SC picks
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:10 PM
May 2022

Ends woman’s personal reproductive rights . Ironically that the biggest womanizer ruins woman’s sex lives and rights!

I dislike like him so much. I hope he pays big time in the future and destroys the Republican Party. The party of so called freedom, liberty and personal responsibility

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
21. Why is that ironic...?
Fri May 20, 2022, 06:18 PM
May 2022
Ironically that the biggest womanizer ruins woman’s sex lives and rights!

Womanizers typically don't feel the object (word carefully chosen) of their desires deserve much agency. Women only exist for that person's pleasure - what they themselves may want is irrelevant.

bucolic_frolic

(42,663 posts)
11. Not to mention his record on women, governing, insurrection, bankruptcy, and the Big Lie
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:20 PM
May 2022

Raven123

(4,714 posts)
13. If Trump believes this, he will magically claim to be pro-choice if he decides to run in 2024
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:30 PM
May 2022

rurallib

(62,344 posts)
15. and prove it by bragging about the abortions he paid for
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:44 PM
May 2022

for his mistresses and one night stands.

oldsoftie

(12,410 posts)
23. I still cannot believe at least ONE of those stories has never come out.
Fri May 20, 2022, 06:53 PM
May 2022

A guy like him would be highly likely to have been paying for something.

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
16. Okay, let's be honest - he didn't come up with this on his own
Fri May 20, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

Someone explained it to him, and he realized they were right. Let's not go crazy, people!

TlalocW

SpankMe

(2,937 posts)
20. The prick is already preparing to either lose,...
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:49 PM
May 2022

...or have an excuse not to run if things get too hot with the Jan6th thing.

StarryNite

(9,363 posts)
25. It just shows he doesn't believe what he has said about being "pro life".
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:23 PM
May 2022

If he did he would stand by it. But actually he doesn't give a crap about what happens to women or whether we lose our rights over our own body or not. It's all about him becoming the dictator he wants to be.

RobinA

(9,876 posts)
26. Trump
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:31 PM
May 2022

doesn’t give a rat’s ass about abortion. It was just a convenient stance for him to take.

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
28. Locking
Sat May 21, 2022, 12:13 AM
May 2022

This was alerted on as being analysis. The forum hosts agreed it would be better to repost in General Discussion, because it is primarily speculation/behind the scenes inferences about how TFG feels, as opposed to comprising important breaking news.

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