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Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:48 AM

Kyiv demands apology after PM Orbn wears scarf showing parts of Ukraine as Hungarian

Source: The Guardian

Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán came under pressure to apologise after posting a video of himself at a football match wearing a scarf that depicted historical Hungary, including parts of Ukraine and neighbouring countries.

Ukraine’s foreign ministry spokesperson Oleg Nikolenko said on Tuesday Kyiv would summon Hungary’s ambassador “who will be informed of the unacceptability of Viktor Orbán’s act”.

“The promotion of revisionism ideas in Hungary does not contribute to the development of Ukrainian-Hungarian relations and does not comply with the principles of European policy,” Nikolenko wrote on Facebook. “We are waiting for an official apology from the Hungarian side and a refutation of the encroachments on the territorial integrity of Ukraine.”

Ukrainian media showed images of Orbán meeting a Hungarian footballer wearing a scarf which the outlet Ukrainska Pravda reported depicted a map of “Greater Hungary” including territory that is now part of the neighbouring states of Ukraine, Austria, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Croatia and Serbia.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/23/hungary-pm-viktor-orban-scarf-showing-ukraine-territory-hungarian

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Reply Kyiv demands apology after PM Orbn wears scarf showing parts of Ukraine as Hungarian (Original post)
discocrisco01 Nov 23 OP
Srkdqltr Nov 23 #1
jimfields33 Nov 23 #4
marble falls Nov 23 #5
jimfields33 Nov 23 #6
marble falls Nov 23 #8
IronLionZion Nov 23 #2
Botany Nov 23 #3
blue-wave Nov 24 #20
Warpy Nov 23 #7
speak easy Nov 23 #10
DBoon Nov 23 #11
speak easy Nov 23 #16
Warpy Nov 23 #14
IronLionZion Nov 23 #12
Warpy Nov 23 #13
dembotoz Nov 23 #18
republianmushroom Nov 23 #9
Temeret Nov 23 #15
EndlessWire Nov 23 #17
blue-wave Nov 23 #19

Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:00 PM

1. so now Hungary is going to start up?

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:10 PM

4. Fighting over a scarf. The world is insane.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:16 PM

5. The scarf is your big take away? Where do the Russians fit in? Stole a pie off a window sill?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:18 PM

6. This was at a World Cup game.

I don’t think Russia was playing that day.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:22 PM

8. That scarf is about a lot more than a soccer match. People are dying where he makes his jest.

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:05 PM

2. Always trolling, Trump style

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:09 PM

3. The same Viktor Orbn who is a hero to the MAGAts and CPAC mother fuckers and role model to ....

... neo Nazis such as Sebastian Gorky? This should be no surprise to those Christo Fascisti who
want to take control of America because they like that shit.

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Response to Botany (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:16 AM

20. Yup, that same guy

Love your descriptive terminology!!

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:19 PM

7. After the final dealth of the Austro-Hungarian Empire

quite a bit of Hungarian territory went to Ukraine, as well as other surrounding countries. That's an historical fact, as well as there is a sizable Hungarian minority in Ukraine. There are also Ukrainians in Hungary. Borders are often very messy things.

Most European wars have been fought because one country or another decided to include their border population within an expanded border. It's one reason European history is so bloody, those ancient tribes just would not settle within sane borders.

The problem these days is that another world wide war starting in Europe wouldn't be merely bloody, it would be suicide. Orban's scarf might have been historically correct, but he'd be a massive fool to try to press the point. He'd have to wait for Uncle Vlad to conquer Ukraine and give him "his" territory back--just before the tanks rolled into Budapest, some more recent history he needs to be aware of.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:47 PM

10. And if Scholz was wearing a scarf with Germany's 1937 borders?

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Response to speak easy (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:03 PM

11. or these borders?

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Response to DBoon (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:03 PM

16. Under wraps for the case of Germany v Poland match :)

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Response to speak easy (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:16 PM

14. I kn ow, he'd be called an asshole by his own people

who realize just how much that empire cost the country as well as the rest of the world.

That's the problem with land wars in Europe. They spread.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:36 PM

12. Putin uses the same excuse for his invasion

claiming he wants to protect Russians living in Ukraine by killing many of them.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:13 PM

13. Putin is bonkers

He started believing his own bullshit a long time ago, fatal for any autocrat and it tends to happen to all of them, even the ones who start out as great reformers.

He's simply denied the fact that Ukrainians are a distinct culture. They're going to get a lot more distinct once this mess is over.

Orban's scarf signals that he likely wants "his" share of the country after Russia conquers it all (ha). Good. Let him fight Putin over the spoils neither is likely to see.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:20 PM

18. didn't spain used to own florida...should they take it back? Not sure i would mind that

in all honesty.

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:59 PM

9. how to piss off your neighbor

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:05 PM

15. Orbn is a right ring nut

big time.

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:32 PM

17. Hungary is a member of NATO and

the EU.

It's hard to imagine what Orban was thinking when he pick that scarf. Not appropriate. They owe apologies and explanations to Ukraine. I wonder if they are prepared to uphold their duties at NATO and/or EU. Questionable, but not enough data.

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Response to discocrisco01 (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:57 PM

19. Orban is nothing but

A shit stain on the human race. Him, Pooty and that goof from Belarus all need to burn in hell.

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