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Thu Dec 1, 2022, 04:41 PM

Senate rejects proposal to give rail workers seven days of paid sick leave

Source: The Hill

The Senate voted on Thursday to reject a proposal to give railway workers seven days of sick leave, a benefit that was left out of a labor deal brokered by the presidential emergency board between freight rail companies and unionized workers.

The proposal to give workers seven days of sick leave, which was championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and other liberal Democrats, failed to pick up enough Republican support to overcome a 60-vote threshold set for adopting the measure.

It passed the House Wednesday with a narrow bipartisan majority, 221 to 207 with only three Republicans voting for it.

The votes in the Senate and House now give Democrats the ability to blame Republicans for imposing a labor deal on rail workers that includes little flexibility for taking time off work due to illness or doctorsí visits.



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3758436-senate-rejects-proposal-to-give-rail-workers-seven-days-of-paid-sick-leave/

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Reply Senate rejects proposal to give rail workers seven days of paid sick leave (Original post)
brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
TeamProg Dec 2022 #1
tirebiter Dec 2022 #2
Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #3
KS Toronado Dec 2022 #8
FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #11
Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #15
Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #37
Rebl2 Dec 2022 #5
Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #38
SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #42
Rebl2 Dec 2022 #46
grumpyduck Dec 2022 #4
peppertree Dec 2022 #9
DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #14
SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #43
DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #53
MichMan Dec 2022 #6
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #7
EarthFirst Dec 2022 #10
myohmy2 Dec 2022 #19
Javaman Dec 2022 #30
tirebiter Dec 2022 #51
Javaman Dec 2022 #52
MontanaMama Dec 2022 #12
LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #17
DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #21
LT Barclay Dec 2022 #26
Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #13
The Mouth Dec 2022 #16
LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #18
MichMan Dec 2022 #31
The Mouth Dec 2022 #48
LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #20
Tarc Dec 2022 #22
LT Barclay Dec 2022 #23
quakerboy Dec 2022 #24
Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #25
quakerboy Dec 2022 #36
JohnSJ Dec 2022 #33
quakerboy Dec 2022 #35
BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #27
forthemiddle Dec 2022 #29
Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #39
LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #28
Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #40
smb Dec 2022 #44
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #50
JohnSJ Dec 2022 #32
SunSeeker Dec 2022 #34
Deminpenn Dec 2022 #41
Magoo48 Dec 2022 #45
The Mouth Dec 2022 #49
samsingh Dec 2022 #47

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 04:50 PM

1. Get rid of privately funded ELECTIONS & Lobbyist Gifts !! They are killing us ! n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 05:01 PM

2. Get rid of Republicans.

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Response to tirebiter (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 05:15 PM

3. Yeah i agree with your and get rid .... via French Revolution !!!

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Response to Trueblue1968 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:14 PM

8. Like so?

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:25 PM

11. It's the only way to be sure with republicons

they're too intermingled with normal people to just nuke them from orbit.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:55 PM

15. YES Toronado.... you are 100000000000000000000% correct.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:22 AM

37. The French had a damn good solution to greed

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Response to tirebiter (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:06 PM

5. I am sure

Senators and congressmen and women get paid sick days. Donít know how many. Maybe itís time to get rid of their paid sick leave.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:26 AM

38. You the average worker aren't as valuable as those in control

Don't you know you are lower class humans. Your life is not as important as someone with wealth. so much for the morality of this nation

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:29 AM

42. My first thought too - get rid of paid sick leave for the Senate

But that won't happen while the foxes are in the henhouse.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Reply #42)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:04 PM

46. So true

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 05:38 PM

4. So the repukes want a strike

so they can blame it on the Democrats?

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:15 PM

9. +1

Repugs have a long history with this fifth-column garbage.

It's Nixon's 'make the economy scream' tactic - but imported onto U.S. shores.

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:54 PM

14. EXACTLY GD

and we better get used to this happening over and over again when the Repubs take over majority in the HOUSE.
Also the SENATE, due to our two DINO's that vote constantly with the Republicans.

The Republicans are out for revenge for us delaying them from their installation of a CORPORATE FASCIST TYRANNY in the 2020 election......

Katie Bar The Door............

The Repubs are guerrilla warriors, ........... we aren't even decent street fighters.......

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:30 AM

43. I keep reminding anyone who voted repuglican about this

They voted for people that want to further the economic pain for the majority of people.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 3, 2022, 02:30 PM

53. I have found

that TrumpHumpers, with out exception, are totally oblivious.... They have no clue that everything the Republican's accomplish is aimed at destroying THEM, not just the liberals.......

I have never seen a group/cult as clueless as their followers/voters......It is totally Un-fathomable to any one with a brain or even a speck of common sense....

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:09 PM

6. Its the original deal brokered by President Biden a couple months ago

Most of the rail unions already voted in favor back then other than a few holdouts.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:12 PM

7. Shocker

Six Republicans voted for the sick leave measure: Sens. Mike Braun (Ind.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Josh Hawley (Mo.), John Kennedy (La.) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:24 PM

10. Solidarity with the rail workers!

No sick leave.
No contract.

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Response to EarthFirst (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:00 PM

19. +1...

...wildcat...

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Response to EarthFirst (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 09:32 PM

30. Former IASTE member here. I will always stand with the workers! Nt

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Response to Javaman (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 3, 2022, 12:41 AM

51. You mean IATSE?

I was a member of Local #610.

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Response to tirebiter (Reply #51)

Sat Dec 3, 2022, 01:17 PM

52. Lol yes typed too fast

660 here

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:28 PM

12. I know a whole bunch of railroaders.

Most of them are vocal repukes. You get what you get and don't throw a fit.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:59 PM

17. Are they? Well, good then. Serves them right for voting for that shithole party

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:02 PM

21. Same thing in the Trades World

They are so politically ignorant that they don't even know these Quasi-Republicans are out to screw everyone, including them....

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:33 PM

26. The whole industry has thrown in with the extraction industry. They don't seem to understand that

railroads are a much more fuel efficient that trucks and their fixed location makes them ideal for electrification.

https://www.alternet.org/2009/01/lets_get_get_those_freight_trucks_off_the_road_and_put_america_back_on_tracks/

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:43 PM

13. JHC. Seven lousy days is enough to scuttle a decent contract and risk a strike? Wake up RR boss. nt

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:56 PM

16. The President needs to step up on this


Shame on EVERYONE who supports this bullshit.

Sick days for the railroad workers or shut the whole damned country down.

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Response to The Mouth (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:59 PM

18. I don't get why they are pressuring the RR bosses?

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Response to The Mouth (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:10 PM

31. It was President Biden's proposal that was passed

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Response to MichMan (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 01:25 PM

48. The workers need to strike if they don't get paid sick time

And the President needs to support them. 100%. Threaten to nationalize any RR that doesn't grant sick leave, and throw the executives in jail.

Fuck anyone who thinks that a *single worker* anywhere in the U.S.A. shouldn't have as much paid sick time as they need to stay healthy, may they know nothing but illness and injury for them and their family.

I hope the workers throw a wrench in it; close *everything* down until the newest person gets 30 days.

ONE worker is more important than all the asshole railroad executives, stock holders, and any POS politician that doesn't support the workers.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:02 PM

20. Ted Cruz wrote some non-sensical twitter thread about why this is Biden's fault and why he voted

against the bill.




blah blah blah



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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:04 PM

22. I am a state government employee. I have 90 days of sick time banked

I think we earn like 15 days a year, just can't go over 90.

Raid workers work long hours, it can be dangerous and thankless work. I don't think my sick time should dwarf theirs, this is ridiculous.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:21 PM

23. Popeye gets it...

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:26 PM

24. It is a dark day

The democratic senate and democratic house have joined forces to dump on a union. Presumably the democratic president will sign on next.

This will cost us in the next election and beyond. Unions are the main counterweight to the kochs and adelsons and such. And our party just proved we don't have their backs when the going looks a little rocky.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #24)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:33 PM

25. It won't cost us in 2024.

Americans have the memory of gnats.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:42 AM

36. Americans memory is not the issue at hand

The issue at hand are the memory and enthusiasm of the leaders and activists of the unions who do a significant portion of the heavy lifting during election seasons

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:02 AM

33. NO. It was the republicans in the Senate that refused the sick leave to the bill, not the

DEMOCRATS, and trying to phrase this as being because of the Democratic Senate is entirely misleading

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:40 AM

35. Results matter

And who chose to pass it as two separate bills, allowing this to be the nearly inevitable conclusion?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:37 PM

27. I knew it. Shit!!!

No sick pay my ass! Strike! Media should blame the GQP but it won't. People will blame the Dems even though we do not have the 60 votes as usual. The media could help the country but it sides with the GQP and their big $$$ bosses to make happy every damn time no matter who is in the White House.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #27)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 08:51 PM

29. If Biden signs it, it's on him.

People donít remember bills that are proposed, but donít pass, they only remember the final bill that the President signs.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:34 AM

39. The media is owned by large corps and wealthy individuals and

you think they are going to be shooting themselves in the foot by presenting the truth. Privatizing essential services sure works for those in power

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:45 PM

28. Manchin... *shakes head*

He was the only Democrat to vote against the 7 days of paid sick leave amendment.

I mean, motherfucking Ted Cruz voted for it, Rubio, Hawley,...

C'mon Georgia, please give us Senator Warnock.

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:39 AM

40. Notice Manchin has sick leave

too bad we can't pull his sick leave that the TAXPAYER pays for. Labor is a second class citizen and we the common man put up with it! What is the matter with us when all other well to do nations have health care

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 09:32 AM

44. Jackass

The ONLY effect of his "no" vote was to obfuscate the GQP's responsibility for denying a perfectly reasonable provision.

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:14 PM

50. Yep

The bill, which gives rail workers seven paid sick days, passed the House but was defeated by a vote of 52-43 in the Senate, as Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., joined Republican members in rejecting the measure. A handful of Republican members, including Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Marco Rubio, R-Fla, voted in favor of the bill.

Rail unions slam Senate's 'anti-American' rejection of sick days

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:57 PM

32. The headline should read it was the republicans in the Senate why sick leave was rejected, because

the Democrats effectively had no problem including it in the bill, it was the republicans

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:05 AM

34. Exactly. It was Republicans, not "the Senate..."

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:01 AM

41. RR workers get days off

It's not like they're asked to work 24/7. They also get paid vacation time and the same number of holidays off as federal civil servants. They also call out when they're sick.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 10:17 AM

45. No paid sick leave, no deal.

Union Strong
Solidarity

eom

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 01:28 PM

49. AMEN

ALL the freight on every car isn't as important as the health and prosperity of any ONE Union worker. Fuck the Railroad executives, fuck the stockholders.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:09 PM

47. i wonder how many rail workers vote republican

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