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BumRushDaShow

(151,179 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:48 AM Feb 9

'The feel of a coup': Elon Musk said to be poised to 'defy' major judicial order

Source: Raw Story

February 8, 2025 10:30PM ET


Elon Musk appears poised to defy a judicial order, according to observers. Musk, the richest man in the world and an appointee of Donald Trump, was dealt a blow over the weekend when a judge reportedly blocked Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from accessing personal financial data from the Treasury Department, which resulted in a MAGA meltdown.

Musk wasn't too happy about the ruling, saying, "Corrupt judges protecting corruption." Trump legal ally Mike Davis said, "These DC uniparty judges are shockingly insulated from Real Americans in Real America." "They are arrogant and delusional enough to believe they are saving America from Trump," the lawyer added. "Even though Trump campaigned on doing precisely what he’s doing. And won a decisive electoral mandate."

GOP Senator Mike Lee said, "This has the feel of a coup—not a military coup, but a judicial one." Musk reposted that comment Saturday evening, writing simply, "Yes."

In a separate post, Musk shared a statement from someone suggesting various reasons for defying court orders. That comment stated, "I don’t like the precedent it sets when you defy a judicial ruling, but I’m just wondering what other options are these judges leaving us…”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-elon-coup-defy-order/?utm_source=superhead

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'The feel of a coup': Elon Musk said to be poised to 'defy' major judicial order (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 9 OP
It will officially be a "coup" when no law enforcement agency enforces judicial orders after they are defied by Musk. sop Feb 9 #1
The Federal courts have no enforcement mechanism other than U.S. Marshals. flashman13 Feb 9 #20
Exactly! Federal marshals are the enforcement arm of the executive judiciary, elocs Feb 9 #21
When there's no one to enforce it, how hard is it to defy a judicial order? bucolic_frolic Feb 9 #2
Contempt of Court immediately kicks in enforcement. ancianita Feb 9 #19
Exactly.....Michael Popok gave a great summation of this! PortTack Feb 9 #23
Are the judges going to send in their bailiffs? LiberalArkie Feb 9 #3
Waiting for the so called 'deep state' to react. Joinfortmill Feb 9 #4
First off, they have ZERO mandate. johnnyfins Feb 9 #5
Not a mandate, not even a majority. More than 50% of voters voted AGAINST Trump. SharonAnn Feb 9 #11
I live through mandates Pototan Feb 9 #14
Good to see that the writers of Pravda or their offspring are still working. Botany Feb 9 #6
"Even though Trump campaigned on doing precisely what he's doing" William Seger Feb 9 #7
Exactly and in fact he specifically disavowed Project 2025 benfranklin1776 Feb 9 #15
Real Americans in Real America johnnyfins Feb 9 #8
Letters From an American. Heather Cox Richardson. A must read Botany Feb 9 #22
..Not code for 'white' people whathehell Feb 9 #28
Musk should join a rowing team and learn to stroke, stroke, stroke...... right out of this life. cstanleytech Feb 9 #9
May he, and every one of his supporters, enablers, helpers, cheerleaders, niyad Feb 9 #10
Arrest him and put him in ADX Florence or Guantanamo. nt Gore1FL Feb 9 #12
Unfortunately, look who controls the DOJ tishaLA Feb 9 #18
Isn't it funny that they think that winning an election Dem4life1970 Feb 9 #13
There is one sure way to stop Musk. liberalgunwilltravel Feb 9 #16
I can't wait to see how the NYT manages to present a cous... tishaLA Feb 9 #17
How far we have fallen already where this could even happen. Evolve Dammit Feb 9 #24
Mush says a lot of stuff....just like his vice president PortTack Feb 9 #25
Musk-rat can only see in black and white... AntiFascist Feb 9 #26
Too bad antifa isn't really a thing Walleye Feb 9 #27
IKR sop Feb 9 #29
If he can't be arrested C_U_L8R Feb 9 #30
"how about seizing his property?" BumRushDaShow Feb 9 #32
Can a court freeze a bank account C_U_L8R Feb 9 #33
Well based on the long and drawn out saga of Ghouliani and the courts related to his defamation case (now settled) BumRushDaShow Feb 9 #35
He's been promised a pardon if he gets charged JoseBalow Feb 9 #31
US Marshalls howardmappel Feb 9 #34
The US Marshalls ARE under DOJ BumRushDaShow Feb 9 #36
If Mike Lee realizes something, anything, we are truly in deep doodoo. travelingthrulife Feb 10 #37
It boils down to MuskRAT wants to have EVERYONE'S private information. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 10 #38

sop

(13,807 posts)
1. It will officially be a "coup" when no law enforcement agency enforces judicial orders after they are defied by Musk.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:55 AM
Feb 9

flashman13

(1,160 posts)
20. The Federal courts have no enforcement mechanism other than U.S. Marshals.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 12:57 PM
Feb 9

Bondi will prevent the Marshals from doing their job.

There is only one other organization that can stop this coup/crime wave.

elocs

(24,101 posts)
21. Exactly! Federal marshals are the enforcement arm of the executive judiciary,
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 01:34 PM
Feb 9

and they work for the DOJ and the DOJ ultimately works for Trump.
The millions who voted for Trump ultimately betrayed democracy.
This will be all over before the midterms.

bucolic_frolic

(49,937 posts)
2. When there's no one to enforce it, how hard is it to defy a judicial order?
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:56 AM
Feb 9

Trump-DOJ-Bondi will enforce what it likes, and ignore what it doesn't. Rule of law is gone. So yesteryear.

We are left with Congressional Democrats' Stop Musk bill, and our phone calls ringing the Congressional switchboard at 140 calls per minute.

Plus a few protests planned for now until March.

No idea what's happening with Musk coders and the ACH Clearinghouse. No answers being provided. Maybe courts will order some answers.

ancianita

(40,329 posts)
19. Contempt of Court immediately kicks in enforcement.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 12:56 PM
Feb 9

When a judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court, it means that law enforcement is authorized to locate and apprehend the individual who has disobeyed a court order, failed to appear in court, or violated conditions of bail, leading to their arrest and potential detention until they appear before the judge to address the contempt charges;
this usually involves being taken to jail until they comply with the court order or are otherwise dealt with by the court.

Sheriffs' departments are usually responsible for carrying out arrest warrants for contempt of court.

Bench warrants -- Law enforcement officers can arrest the person named in a bench warrant and bring them to court.
Federal arrest warrants -- United States Marshals are sent to apprehend the suspect and take them into custody. US Marshals' jurisdiction is nationwide and beyond the borders of the U.S.

Execution of a warrant -- The officer must show the defendant the warrant and arrest them. The officer must also return the warrant to the judge.

The consequences of a bench warrant can be serious. The person may face additional charges for contempt of court or bail violations.

johnnyfins

(1,989 posts)
5. First off, they have ZERO mandate.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:42 AM
Feb 9

The election was not the landslide that they are crowing about.

Second: Mike Lee?? Accusing someone else of a coup? He would definitely know what one smells like. (TSFs farts for one)

Pototan

(2,553 posts)
14. I live through mandates
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 12:01 PM
Feb 9

LBJ in 1964, Nixon in 1972, Reagan in 1984, Obama in 2008. those were mandates. double digit wins in the popular vote (or close to it).

A point and a half is not a mandate. A 3-vote majority in the house is not a mandate.

What amazes me is that when Biden won by 7 million votes, the Trump Cult claimed he stole the election. Trump wins by less than 3 million votes and they call it a mandate.

Botany

(73,922 posts)
6. Good to see that the writers of Pravda or their offspring are still working.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:42 AM
Feb 9

"These DC uniparty judges are shockingly insulated from Real Americans in Real America." "They are arrogant and delusional enough to believe they are saving America from Trump," the lawyer added. "Even though Trump campaigned on doing precisely what he’s doing. And won a decisive electoral mandate."

*****
Trump didn’t win a decisive electoral mandate he was installed by Musk, the GRU, a slow ass
Merrick Garland, and a corrupt U.S. Supreme Court. And maybe some help from the techno-
crypto boys too.

If you tell a lie that is big enough and for long enough some people will believe it. J Goebbels.

William Seger

(11,550 posts)
7. "Even though Trump campaigned on doing precisely what he's doing"
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:43 AM
Feb 9

I'm seeing that everywhere on right-wing YouTube, and it's just a LIE! He did NOT tell voters he was going to give Musk a chainsaw to unconstitutionally and illegally cut off any part of the government he didn't like! And even if he DID campaign on being a dictator, winning an election doesn't give him the right to do it!

benfranklin1776

(6,813 posts)
15. Exactly and in fact he specifically disavowed Project 2025
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 12:08 PM
Feb 9

So once more Jabba the Scut was lying through his rotten teeth. 🤬😡But at the very least one can state that, with his express disavowal of Project 2025, voters that were deceived by him voted AGAINST this modern version of the third reich playbook. 🤬😡

johnnyfins

(1,989 posts)
8. Real Americans in Real America
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:46 AM
Feb 9

Really? Divisive much? I guess that's code for white people. It's to be expected coming from Davis.

niyad

(123,333 posts)
10. May he, and every one of his supporters, enablers, helpers, cheerleaders,
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 11:22 AM
Feb 9

every person, organzation, group, whatever, receive everything they deserve.

tishaLA

(14,614 posts)
18. Unfortunately, look who controls the DOJ
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Feb 9

He commits crimes, our justice system won't indict him and even if it did, he has an Oval Office ally ready to pardon him.

Dem4life1970

(794 posts)
13. Isn't it funny that they think that winning an election
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 11:42 AM
Feb 9

gives them the right to do something illegal?

Then the party of "law and order" starts pondering about ignoring the law?

It isn't like what they are doing is new, we have case studies throughout history of what totalitarian dictatorial regimes both ancient and modern have looked like.

When T**** made his "Dictator on Day One" comment I said at the time "Dictatorships are always fun for the supporters....at first."

I remember reading of Saddam killing family members in front of his cabinet just to show everyone that he trusted no one.

AntiFascist

(13,234 posts)
26. Musk-rat can only see in black and white...
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 01:48 PM
Feb 9

he doesn't seem to understand that the purpose of the Judiciary is to uphold the law.

sop

(13,807 posts)
29. IKR
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:17 PM
Feb 9

Think of all the fringe political parties formed over the years, both on the left and the right. It's as American as Suoer Bowl Sunday. Some angry folks actually organized "The Rent Is Too Damn High Party" and nominated a candidate to run for NYC mayor. I really think people are ready for the Anti-Fascist Party.

C_U_L8R

(47,161 posts)
30. If he can't be arrested
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:37 PM
Feb 9

how about seizing his property?

As well as finding DOJ officials in contempt of court.

BumRushDaShow

(151,179 posts)
32. "how about seizing his property?"
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 03:21 PM
Feb 9

Who is going to "seize" unless you get a state LEO to do it (unless that may be an only option)?

C_U_L8R

(47,161 posts)
33. Can a court freeze a bank account
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 04:12 PM
Feb 9

Without law enforcement ? Don’t know. But it sure seems that true justice is in a pickle.

BumRushDaShow

(151,179 posts)
35. Well based on the long and drawn out saga of Ghouliani and the courts related to his defamation case (now settled)
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 05:15 PM
Feb 9

and his assets... it apparently can be done (i.e., ordering "non-government" entities to do that - e.g., banks, etc.) but the enforcement mechanisms leave a lot to be desired.

howardmappel

(94 posts)
34. US Marshalls
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 04:18 PM
Feb 9

Send a few US Marshalls to bring Elon to the courthouse, and they can even provide him with a toothbrush (new of course) for his stay, however long it might be. And make sure not to be too soft when putting him into car, do what tRump says and be a little rough. Oh, and don't forget to make sure those handcuffs (behind his back of course) are good and secure -- might need belly and ankle chains also, after all, he was going to fight Zuckerberg in a cage match so he might resist arrest and use violence in doing so.

BumRushDaShow

(151,179 posts)
36. The US Marshalls ARE under DOJ
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 05:32 PM
Feb 9

I know I had posted the org chart many times on DU when DUers asssumed that the one and only employee (not counting a temporary employee - Jack Smith) was Merrick Garland (a "figurehead" now gone) and DOJ only did a single function and no other -



Doubt that Pam Bondi would even entertain such a thing.

travelingthrulife

(2,114 posts)
37. If Mike Lee realizes something, anything, we are truly in deep doodoo.
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 10:51 AM
Feb 10

Still lying about that mandate I see.

We need hackers on our side to figure out how they hacked those voting tabulators.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,596 posts)
38. It boils down to MuskRAT wants to have EVERYONE'S private information.
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 10:55 AM
Feb 10

To STEAL what is NOT his. Nothing more.

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