Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:19 AM

Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain Warrant to Monitor Email

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Source: Allgov.com

" The federal government will continue to access Americans’ emails without a warrant, after the U.S. Senate dropped a key amendment to legislation now headed to the White House for approval.

Last month, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved an amendment attached to the Video Privacy Protection Act Amendments Act (which deals with publishing users’ Netflix information on Facebook pages) that would have required federal law enforcement to obtain a warrant before monitoring email or other data stored remotely (i.e., the cloud).

The Senate was set to approve the video privacy bill along with the email amendment, which would have applied to a different law, the 1986 Electronic Communications Privacy Act. But then senators decided for reasons unknown to drop the amendment.

Currently, the government can collect emails and other cloud data without a warrant as long as the content has been stored on a third-party server for 180 days or more. Federal agents need only demonstrate that they have “reasonable grounds to believe” the information would be useful in an investigation."

Read more: http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/congress-at-last-minute-drops-requirement-to-obtain-warrant-to-monitor-email-121225?news=846578

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Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain Warrant to Monitor Email (Original post)	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	OP
Can You Smell the Fascism Yet?	triplepoint	Dec 2012	#1
This Really Sucks	BadGimp	Dec 2012	#2
It was not an amendment, it was a rider. And The Senate has been in recess since Friday...	Tx4obama	Dec 2012	#3
So who is watching the police? nt	humblebum	Dec 2012	#4
no doubt our president will veto a bill with any such spying...lolololol nt	msongs	Dec 2012	#5
Maybe they can find the next NRA school shooter this way, I am fine by this	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#6
You would like this. When they spy on you i don't want to hear any screaming.	hobbit709	Dec 2012	#8
k & freakin r! nt	wildbilln864	Dec 2012	#7
Locking, sorry, but this is not breaking news.	Rhiannon12866	Dec 2012	#9

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:46 AM

triplepoint (431 posts)

1. Can You Smell the Fascism Yet?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:49 AM

BadGimp (3,960 posts)

2. This Really Sucks

Are we this passive that we let the government do this to us?

I guess so. We don't deserve Democracy.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:51 AM

Tx4obama (36,974 posts)

3. It was not an amendment, it was a rider. And The Senate has been in recess since Friday...

... and the bill was rewritten back in November - so there really is not anything in the OP article that would be considered to be breaking news.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:02 AM

humblebum (5,881 posts)

4. So who is watching the police? nt

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:04 AM

msongs (66,177 posts)

5. no doubt our president will veto a bill with any such spying...lolololol nt

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:38 AM

graham4anything (11,464 posts)

6. Maybe they can find the next NRA school shooter this way, I am fine by this

If an email pops up minutes before the perp gets out of his car near a school to kill
20 babies, I don't want to have to wait for a warrant to act.

the rights to their life, their liberty and their future pursuit of happiness of the 20 kids about to be killed are far, far more important

EVERYTHING is needed in the war on terror against the gun a shooter and bullet.
And a reclassification of guns as WMDs would free law enforcement to act as needed to solve this problem, like they were able to capture OBL with, once the President in office actually wanted to do that (unlike the prior one who let him go in the mts. over there)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:13 AM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)