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Hissyspit

(45,790 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:52 PM Feb 2012

Poll: Santorum Leads Romney Nationally by Eight Points

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/19/poll-santorum-leads-romney-nationwide-by-eight-points

Poll: Santorum leads Romney nationwide by eight points

Posted at 4:27 pm by: CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) — The latest results from Gallup’s daily tracking poll indicate Rick Santorum has overtaken Mitt Romney nationwide and now leads the former Massachusetts governor by an eight-point margin.

According to the poll released Sunday, 36% of registered Republicans said they are backing Santorum, while 28% prefer Romney.

The new numbers represent a five-point drop for Romney since Wednesday, when the candidate was statistically tied with his opponent, 33% to 31%. Meanwhile, Santorum has jumped five points in the same time period.

- snip -

Romney’s campaign, as well as a super PAC supporting his candidacy, have since taken a visible turn in strategy, attacking the surging candidate through surrogates, interviews and ads.
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Poll: Santorum Leads Romney Nationally by Eight Points (Original Post) Hissyspit Feb 2012 OP
I think KKKarl Rove already knows about this. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #1
He scares me Worried senior Feb 2012 #2
Looks like the baggers have found their candidate. nt TBF Feb 2012 #3
Actually probably not existentialist Feb 2012 #10
One can dream ... TBF Feb 2012 #17
Sanatorum can't go down that easily. caseymoz Feb 2012 #24
One would think, but existentialist Feb 2012 #26
Just from sure ego they continue caseymoz Feb 2012 #34
The earmarking thing will only be an issue if Santorum loses nxylas Feb 2012 #30
Mitt Romney, meet Richard Riordan and Rudy Giuliani... David__77 Feb 2012 #4
Either one would be a nightmare. eyewall Feb 2012 #5
See! I told you there was a God! underpants Feb 2012 #6
This is going to be 1964 all over again... NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #7
Don't look too good or................ Knight Hawk Feb 2012 #9
If I remember correctly (I was 10 at the time) existentialist Feb 2012 #12
Thanks for that information Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #51
The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965 Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #52
He has 0 chance in PA BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #29
As a PA resident I whole heartily agree! harun Feb 2012 #46
We used paper ballots then.... INdemo Feb 2012 #41
So far, it's voletile NOI4I Feb 2012 #8
Santorum will never be nominated radiclib Feb 2012 #11
GOP fat cats will not let Santorum on any ticket Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #13
You're probably right, but existentialist Feb 2012 #14
Yup! radiclib Feb 2012 #15
They're already fractured. It's a lose/lose. They got nothing and nobody. babylonsister Feb 2012 #16
You misspelled dickhead Courtesy Flush Feb 2012 #37
Sounds GREAT to me!!! elleng Feb 2012 #49
I can't see that happening, but I hope it does Major Nikon Feb 2012 #19
If Santorum had a majority of delegates he would infact be the nominee. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #22
I ain't so sure...how many of us thought in February 08 they'd end up with McCain & Palin? Fortran Feb 2012 #38
McCain-Palin in February of 08 existentialist Feb 2012 #53
Does Romney have a chnace? INdemo Feb 2012 #40
You go girl!! applegrove Feb 2012 #18
Just goes to show how bad off the GOP is right now Major Nikon Feb 2012 #20
The GOP may be badly off regarding candidates LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #44
Obama is doing quite well in the fundraising department Major Nikon Feb 2012 #47
But that doesn't matter. It's state-by-state. MaineDem Feb 2012 #23
I'll say it again, it will be Jeb and Huntsman coming out of a brokered convention digidigido Feb 2012 #25
the social conservatives want a strong figure - Huntsman completely fails - Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #27
Wouldn't surprise me in the least - TBF Feb 2012 #33
You may be right; been 'waiting' for jeb, elleng Feb 2012 #50
That's just scary. Why is Santorum even in politics? spicegal Feb 2012 #28
Who says that he maybe he isn't. Nothing would surprise me about these miscreants. olegramps Feb 2012 #35
Sanitorium? Isn't he the guy who hates women and everyone else who isn't a straight white male? truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #31
He doesn't even have a dog in this fight... MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #32
Damn. I wanted Romney. Courtesy Flush Feb 2012 #36
RNC will need to work overtime to rig remaining primaries stubtoe Feb 2012 #39
Loving it. nbolick Feb 2012 #42
To keep Mittens on top Iliyah Feb 2012 #43
Romney should fall over line. jonathanroberts24 Feb 2012 #45
Just goes to show the percentage of the population who are insane in the US. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #48

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
10. Actually probably not
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:12 PM
Feb 2012
I read one column where as anonymous prominent Republican was quoted sarcasticly stating about Santorum:

"Oh great, and socially radical conservative and a big spender."

Santorum has surged now because he is little known. He will be attacked now,and his record (as somewhat of a big spender, and definitely an earmarker) will come to light, just as the thoroughly stupid things that he has been saying the last several days are beginning to come to light.

The socially radical conservative may not dampen teabagger enthusiam much directly, but the spender and earmarker histoy will, and the "socially radical conservative" will drain support from the establishment Republicans.

This mudfight gets more interesting all the time, and it is Obama and Democrats generally that are benefitting.

TBF

(33,500 posts)
17. One can dream ...
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:32 PM
Feb 2012

I loved his statement about Government not being able to force you to pay for something that violates your beliefs.

I figure he's gonna refund a lot of tax dollars for me because war violates my beliefs.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
24. Sanatorum can't go down that easily.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:40 AM
Feb 2012

That would be the last NotRomney, wouldn't it?

It's not like conservative voters have anyone left. The circular firing squad has spoken. It's now down to a Russian Roulette finals contest between Sanatorum and Romney.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
34. Just from sure ego they continue
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:37 AM
Feb 2012

But they don't have another surge (or in Paul's case, a first one) left in them. And even if I'm wrong about that, if they do, they'll show the same dickishness that they did at first glance.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
30. The earmarking thing will only be an issue if Santorum loses
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:50 AM
Feb 2012

The teabaggers will overlook it in order to get him the nomination, and then when his popularity plummets, as I expect it will once the primaries are over and the Presidential campaign begins in earnest, they will turn on him and say that it was because he wasn't conservative enough. Like all true believers, their ideology can never fail, it can only be failed.

David__77

(23,863 posts)
4. Mitt Romney, meet Richard Riordan and Rudy Giuliani...
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:33 PM
Feb 2012

I'm sure you all can comfort each other after you drop out.

 

Knight Hawk

(347 posts)
9. Don't look too good or................
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:06 PM
Feb 2012

talk to wise as Kipling wrote a hundred years ago.I was there and voted in 1964.This is not 1964.Santorium would MOST likely win Al.Ga,Ms,La,SO CAR,Texas.Because of his Pa roots,sowewhat populist"blue collar" demeanor and being a Roman Catholic Italian American ,he will have a shot at Pa.Ohio .Probably get Az also.Many of the Far west states Wyo,Idaho,.OK and Utah for sure.Goldwater got 5 states...............maybe 6.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
12. If I remember correctly (I was 10 at the time)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:15 PM
Feb 2012

Goldwater carried Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (maybe South Carolina too).

I guess that it would be easy enough to check.

Just checked, it was indeed Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
21. Thanks for that information
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:10 AM
Feb 2012

I hadn't realized that most of the Goldwater states were in the Deep South. I had always thought that the South was still solidly Democratic during that time, so that information was an eye-opener.

Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #21)

BumRushDaShow

(139,102 posts)
29. He has 0 chance in PA
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:45 AM
Feb 2012

He is neither from here nor did he hardly live here most of the time while in office - including refusing to even educate his children here, yet still taking my PA tax money to pay himself for his kids' education anyway. And although he was Senator here, he was removed from office in 2006 by voters choosing Casey by 18% over this psychotic freak. That was supposedly the largest loss by any incumbent Senator in history.

The more his ego gets stroked by the media that insists on legitimizing him, the more psychobabble he spews.

radiclib

(1,811 posts)
11. Santorum will never be nominated
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
Feb 2012

Even if he sweeps the remaining primaries, he has no shot. The party will rig a brokered convention, and someone like Christie, or maybe even Jebbie, will emerge. Believe me. Ricky has no chance. It will not be permitted.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
14. You're probably right, but
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:19 PM
Feb 2012

the infighting necessary to prevent his nomination would severely fracture the Republican Party.

There are many diehards who believe, and will continue to believe, that only a radical conservative can win.

They will be embittered and very angry if they perceive establishment Republications stepping in to take the nomination away from Santorum.

babylonsister

(171,463 posts)
16. They're already fractured. It's a lose/lose. They got nothing and nobody.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:15 PM
Feb 2012

I actually wish there was a viable candidate, but I don't see one.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
37. You misspelled dickhead
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
Feb 2012

Seriously, all I could see was dickhead instead of diehard. Had to read it three times. Dickhead works better.

Major Nikon

(36,879 posts)
19. I can't see that happening, but I hope it does
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:46 PM
Feb 2012

If something like that were to happen, it would destroy the GOP at least for the next 4 yr election cycle or two and perhaps permanently. It would also make them an easy target for Democrats who would correctly paint them as a party that has no value for democratic principles.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
22. If Santorum had a majority of delegates he would infact be the nominee.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:32 AM
Feb 2012

If he swept the remaining primaries he WOULD be the nominee. He would have a majority of delegates and if that happened there is not anything they could do to stop him as it would not be a brokered convention.

 

Fortran

(83 posts)
38. I ain't so sure...how many of us thought in February 08 they'd end up with McCain & Palin?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

I sure didn't...

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
53. McCain-Palin in February of 08
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:03 PM
Feb 2012

Nobody foresaw McCain-Palin in February of 08, but that was because Palin was so obscure (and so completely unqualified). If McCain had thought about McCain-Palin he would have had her vetted, and it would have been.

McCain's candidacy was seen as a very real possibility.

INdemo

(7,008 posts)
40. Does Romney have a chnace?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:20 PM
Feb 2012

..The 2000 election ?..I thought as millions of other voters did that Bush didnt stand a chance in 2000..but along came the Kate Harris,Jeb and other thieves along with the Repukes on the court and walla...
With technological improvements over the years election theft may have become much simpler and the desperate billionaires may take advantage of it.....

Major Nikon

(36,879 posts)
20. Just goes to show how bad off the GOP is right now
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:59 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum couldn't even win a Senate race in his own state. He was an incumbent who lost by 17 points. The only reason he's doing well at all right now is because the public outside of Pennsylvania doesn't know him. He's made statements disparaging the libertarian wing of the GOP which means the only voters he's going to be able to pull in are the hard core social conservatives and the racists who are going to pull the lever for any white man who runs against Obama.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
44. The GOP may be badly off regarding candidates
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:09 PM
Feb 2012

but don't forget all that anonymous super-PAC money flowing from scum like the Kochroaches
and the many dirty tricksters and election-stealing experts they've got working for them. And of course their Supreme Court majority.

It's going to be a challenge for Obama, regardless of what idiot they nominate.
I'm sure he will prevail, but it won't be a piece of cake.

Major Nikon

(36,879 posts)
47. Obama is doing quite well in the fundraising department
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
Feb 2012

Just the other day, Biden was in North Texas of all places raising money and having a good go at it.

The race is likely to boil down to three moderate states, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida just as it has in the last several elections. Santorum, or any other candidate who pretends to be a hard core social conservative, is not going to do well in any of those three. Nobody can win the election without support of moderates and independents. Much will also depend on the economy. If the economy keeps recovering at the rate it currently is, no Republican is going to have a chance regardless of how much money the Kock brothers pour into it.

MaineDem

(18,161 posts)
23. But that doesn't matter. It's state-by-state.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:48 AM
Feb 2012

Remember 2008 and Obama-Clinton?

It's all about delegates and who wins the individual states. National popular vote doesn't count a bit - except to the media.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
27. the social conservatives want a strong figure - Huntsman completely fails -
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:09 AM
Feb 2012

there is no evidence that Jeb is under any serious consideration by anyone in the know. Polling indicates that he would be a very weak candidate - For Republicans these days -the Bush name is the name that must not be spoken

TBF

(33,500 posts)
33. Wouldn't surprise me in the least -
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:45 AM
Feb 2012

the pugs don't like their candidates. As one old-school repug told me "I like Newt's ideas but he's not a very nice person". They know these won't fly. If I were to place a bet I would not count Jeb out.

elleng

(135,093 posts)
50. You may be right; been 'waiting' for jeb,
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:26 PM
Feb 2012

+ Huntsman adds reasonableness (and some right-ishness?)
But what's that do to jeb in '16???

spicegal

(758 posts)
28. That's just scary. Why is Santorum even in politics?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:27 AM
Feb 2012

He should be an ordained Cathoic priest, but then I guess he'd be buggering little boys.

truthisfreedom

(23,303 posts)
31. Sanitorium? Isn't he the guy who hates women and everyone else who isn't a straight white male?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:08 AM
Feb 2012

Seriously?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
32. He doesn't even have a dog in this fight...
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:40 AM
Feb 2012

... unless there's a man atop it.


(yeah, I know it's getting old, but so are the GOP strategists of the religious wrong)

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
36. Damn. I wanted Romney.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:16 AM
Feb 2012

He's so full of holes, it would be a slam dunk for Obama.

Not like Santorum would fire up anybody, though.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
43. To keep Mittens on top
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:08 PM
Feb 2012

ummmmmmmmmmm, like cheat? I'm pretty sure they did that in Maine and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. The higher ups in the gop party know that Frosty can't connect with most Americans. He's already alienating the "Protestants" with his over the top Catholic rhetoric. Frosty is preaching for one religion which is the Catholic religion and that my friends is trickling down to us common folks as against "Freedom of Religion".

He's mentioned nothing about helping America's ecomony nor its people pull out of this distrasous situtation which I shall remind everyone that it was the gop party that created this and now they have their "golden child" Daniels spouting lies (what else is new).

These so called "Christians" have broken just about every (10) commandment there is and which view themselves as closer to "God like". Smells like how the "Nazi" started.

 
45. Romney should fall over line.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
Feb 2012

Romney seems to have the better PR machine, and I still think he will take the Republican primary race, but heck he will be limping over the line. Momentum seems to be with Santorum, but it's worth pointing out that here in the UK the bookmakers make Romney 2/7 favourite to win. This means that if you wanted to win $2 you would have to stake $7 - i.e. the odds are very short for Mitt.

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