India puts satellite into Mars orbit
Source: Associated Press
India puts satellite into Mars orbit
September 24, 2014, 12:29 AM
NEW DELHI -- India triumphed in its first interplanetary mission, placing a satellite into orbit around Mars on Wednesday morning and catapulting the country into an elite club of deep-space explorers.
Scientists broke into wild cheers as the orbiter's engines completed 24 minutes of burn time and maneuvered into its designated place around the Red Planet.
"We have gone beyond the boundaries of human enterprise and innovation," Prime Minister Narendra Modi said, standing alongside scientists with the Indian Space and Research Organization at their command center in the southern city of Bangalore.
"We have navigated our craft through a route known to very few," Modi said, congratulating both the scientists and "all my fellow Indians on this historic occasion."
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-puts-satellite-into-mars-orbit/
msongs
(67,199 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JI7
(89,182 posts)IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)Since "those people" clearly don't deserve to put a satellite into orbit. Does their satellite affect you in some way or do you just want to keep those uppity people in their place?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)A third world country achieves something big and gets slung with mud.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Wholly undeserved mention of other unassociated issues.
samsingh
(17,571 posts)as if none of those issues exist here or in Europe.
it's like saying India has no right to advance unless it gets rid of poverty, etc. And yet this standard is not applied to other countries.
Instead of being happy for India congratulating the country for advancing despite the incredible problems they face, there is always this 'yeah but they should take care of the poor first'. I guess they want India to be a socialist country instead of a capitalistic powerhouse.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Born out of the perception that India's every accomplishment is taking food out of hard working white 'murican mouths. When "outsourcing" doesn't represent 1% of Indian GDP.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)My neighborhood in Mumbai used to be textile mills; they're all abandoned now. Why? The factories got a better deal from Indonesia.a
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)and are forced to train their Indian replacements beforehand, accusations of "straight up racism" become laughable. And actually, American IT workers, here on US soil, have found themselves the victims of reverse-racism in newly Indian-dominated IT workplaces.
No one really cares about what percentage IT outsourcing makes up India's total GDP. In the context of lost jobs and declining wages here in the US, the citation of a statistic like that falls firmly under the category of "how to lie with statistics".
pampango
(24,692 posts)Between 1910 and 1930, the African-American population increased by about forty percent in Northern states as a result of the migration, mostly in the major cities.
While the Great Migration helped educated African Americans obtain jobs, eventually enabling a measure of class mobility, the migrants encountered significant forms of discrimination. Because so many people migrated in a short period of time, the African-American migrants were often resented by the urban European-American working class (often themselves recent immigrants); fearing their ability to negotiate rates of pay or secure employment, they felt threatened by the influx of new labor competition. Sometimes those who were most fearful or resentful were the last immigrants of the 19th and new immigrants of the 20th century. In many cities, working classes tried to defend what they saw as "their" territories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)
The White working class saw the Black migrants as a threat to their jobs and wages. Was that racism? People of one color see their jobs and wages threatened by an influx of people of another color. Or is the IT industry problem more one of nationality rather than color?
The right is always crying about 'reverse racism'.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Furthermore, the last I looked, of the two groups, only African-Americans are US citizens. Pathetic attempt at a false analogy.
"The right is always crying about 'reverse racism'"
Actually, the "right" has corporate shills posting on liberal boards such as this one, posing as "liberals", promulgating job-sucking immigration and "free trade" policies.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)It isn't lying with statistics. Outsourcing could go away tomorrow and the needle on the Indian economy wouldn't even jitter.
samsingh
(17,571 posts)Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)There are less kind descriptions.
smitra
(290 posts)How can a country with "dirty brown people" accomplish what we "clean white people" could not do at the first attempt? Though not said directly, this is what is in mind.
This is the reason why although I read DU regularly for US political news, I rarely post here.
And this is supposedly a "liberal" board....
samsingh
(17,571 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I believe there are now 5 spacecraft orbiting Mars. Three from the U.S., one from Europe, and now one from India.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Sopkoviak
(357 posts)Saying that this is wonderful news and that Mars will be needing gas station managers someday soon.
Reference
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https://www.indiacurrents.com/articles/2007/05/12/clerical-errors
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I guess when you don't have much you have to be proud of the little shitty things you do have.
rock
(13,218 posts)The shit in your peanut butter makes it last longer!
Sopkoviak
(357 posts)She was trying to be funny.
And her audience did laugh.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)but I decided to Pluto it.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)this achievement exemplifies the massive wealth inequality in India - that there are resources and skills to accomplish this when so many are living on pennies a day.
FWIW -This is not just a problem for India - I watched the moon landing on a B&W set while volunteering a week helping migrant workers' children.
JI7
(89,182 posts)such as parents refusing to send their kids to school even though it's free and they get fed. because of backwards areas where they always did things a certain way.
just look at the reports about places getting free toilets put in and some still refuse to use them.
the idiots who give their money to some religious scam artists instead of taking advantage of social services and many other things.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)level enough credit.
My understanding is that the government supplied latrines that were basically a hole in the ground with a brick wall around it for privacy. Some may have been attached to the homes. What happened is that these latrines smelled bad and attracted flies. People didn't want to live next to that, so they continued using the fields.
There is certainly a demand for good alternatives.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/06/09/319529037/indias-rape-uproar-ignites-demand-to-end-open-defecation
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)The US should probably increase its defense budget and cut more social programs to keep up.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Obviously it is a much poorer country than Canada or the US, but it is not bad in terms of equality.
List of countries by income equality-GINI coefficient
Canada...........32.6
China.............47.0
India..............33.4
US.................48.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality#OECD_countries
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Big day in Mars news!
Uncle Joe
(58,112 posts)Thanks for the thread, Judi Lynn.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Boy, those Indians are going to have egg on their face when all they have to show for their spending is scientific progress instead of a wasted field strewn with blasted corpses and shrapnel. heh. Nerds.
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)obviously....
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)That is a serious feather. I eagerly wait to see what you find.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)dembotoz
(16,739 posts)hunter
(38,264 posts)Congratulations, India!
I honestly don't know why people piss on the brighter achievements of others.
Every culture, just as every individual human, has both positive features and negative.
Developing the technology to explore our world and our universe is a positive feature of humanity.
Pissing on the achievements of others, or worse, going to war over ideologies and the brute force control of natural resources, is a negative feature of humanity.
India is a democracy very similar to our own, corrupted by a very wealthy ruling class, a place where progress is often impeded by maladaptive conservative traditions.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Otherwise India might have had to develop plumbing inside it. They haven't advanced that far.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)data is collected by having an additional satellite in orbit. More data and more parties studying that data is a good thing. You never know what might be found!
Judi Lynn
(160,219 posts)Indias Mars mission could be a giant leap
Critics say India has too much poverty for such an endeavour. But space exploration should not be the preserve of the rich west
Priyamvada Gopal
The Guardian, Wednesday 24 September 2014 15.44 EDT
After a journey of 300 days and 420 million miles, an Indian satellite has arrived in orbit around Mars. To have done so on an economy ticket at $74m the cheapest interplanetary mission ever to be undertaken by the world, according to the missions leader only adds to the significance of the event.
Indias space agency the Indian Space Research Organisation is a late entrant to the space race, and the success of Mangalyaan (Mars craft in Hindi) makes the country an Asian leader in space exploration, if not yet a global one. The mission has been received with delight on Indias social media and across its political spectrum, where national pride is the watchword.
To reach a distant world, where others have failed, might have had special significance for Narendra Modi, Indias prime minister, as he finally heads off to the United States for an official visit, having been denied a visa in the past because of doubts over his role in the 2002 Gujarat bloodshed. Modi and his ministers have been quick to assert collective pride in Mangalyaan as part of their vision of a globally ascendant India, ignoring the fact that the mission was actually fostered by their predecessors.
But questions are being asked. The Economist, not a known advocate of the poor or of government spending on social welfare, demanded to know not only of India but of Sri Lanka, Belarus, Bolivia and Nigeria, all minnows with fledgling space aspirations: How can poor countries afford space programmes? Cut aid to such over-reaching parvenus, some in Britain have suggested. The criticism seems partly directed at the fact that the mission was not privately funded, as research in the west increasingly is; state money was channelled towards it without any marketable product emerging.
More:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/24/india-mars-mission-poverty-space-exploration