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Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:49 PM Jun 2020

How out of step is the Republican Party on gay rights?

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How out of step is the Republican Party on gay rights?

A few days before a conservative U.S. Supreme Court voted to enact the most sweeping legal protections for LGBT Americans in decades, a Republican congressman in Virginia lost his election after he officiated a same-sex wedding last year.

The wedding wasn’t the only reason conservatives targeted Rep. Denver Riggleman in a party convention (which local party officials set up in place of a primary), but it was the driving one. Which raises the question: How out of step with the nation is the Republican Party on same-sex rights?

It’s an especially pertinent question on Monday, now that a conservative-majority Supreme Court, with the support of one of President Trump’s nominees, just voted 6-3 that existing federal law protects gay and transgender workers from discrimination based on sex.

That’s a sea change in the legal landscape of protections for LGBT Americans. Before this ruling, in roughly half of states, you could be legally fired for being gay or transgender. Now, you can’t under the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which the court ruled extends to LGBT Americans because it prevents discrimination “on the basis of sex.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-out-of-step-is-the-republican-party-on-gay-rights/ar-BB15vPWD?ocid=msedgntp
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How out of step is the Republican Party on gay rights? (Original Post) Amy-Strange Jun 2020 OP
Depends on which GOP'er you talk to customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #1
I love your sig, and... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #2
You're very welcome! customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #6
They're pretty awful. . . . BigDemVoter Jun 2020 #3
Sometimes it's the only way to make a point... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #4
We know about them folks Miigwech Jun 2020 #5

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. Depends on which GOP'er you talk to
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jun 2020

I think the country-clubber Republicans are OK with equal marriage, but I'm pretty sure the fundies are not. And there seems to be a lot of fundies in Riggleman's district.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. You're very welcome!
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jun 2020

This morning, I read an article on Politico which said that GOP'ers in the Senate were just fine with yesterday's SCOTUS ruling on equal rights, it seems to be the much more conservative House GOP'ers who would not pass legislation to amend the 1964 Civil Rights Act. It also seems that the fundies would have much more influence in a rural Congressional district than they would on a statewide basis, in most states.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
3. They're pretty awful. . . .
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jun 2020

And there are those who may be "moderate" yet they continue to vote for these monsters. . . .

Think about a Nazi. . .. Maybe a "moderate" Nazi who thinks Jews are just swell but votes for Nazis just the same? The end result is a gas chamber for the Jews, regardless of what the "moderate" thinks about it. . . This may be an extreme comparison but I'm trying to make a point. These "moderate "repigs" can claim to be as moderate as they want, but they are just as fucking guilty as the worst ones, as they vote for Pussy-Grabber anyway.

Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
4. Sometimes it's the only way to make a point...
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jun 2020

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is to go extreme, but I got your point, and somewhat agree with it.

Not all republicans are horrible, though, and some even vote democrat.

To be honest, I'm a registered republican in Washington state, but in name only.

When they decided to force people to declare a party, I followed Dan Savage's advice, and that was to use it to disrupt and delegitimize the party by voting for weird candidates (during the nomination process) and attending conventions with confusion as your weapon.

Dan Savage is a writer here in Seattle for the Stranger, and I think he's slightly bonkers, but his articles are entertaining as hell. He's gay, and obviously, a big time supporter of LGBT rights.

Here's a link to all his article:

https://www.thestranger.com/archive/dan-savage

and here's a link to his visit to the 1996 Republican Convention:

Saturday, August 10
Bob Dole is in big trouble.

This wholly unoriginal observation comes to me on my flight to San Diego via Reno, Nevada, "Home of America's Most Depressing Airport." Two little old ladies, identical twin sisters as it turns out, sit next to me on the plane. Alice and Antoinette's resemblance is obscured by the large, dark sunglasses Antoinette is wearing. Three years ago, Antoinette, lost her sight. "I was just driving along the road, when bang. It was like somebody turned the lights out" The sisters have been up in Seattle visiting an eye specialist. "That's visit, you understand. We don't say 'see the doctor' anymore," jokes the blind twin.

I tell them I am headed for the Republican National Convention, and in the best tradition of story-framing coincidences, it turns out that Antoinette was a delegate at the '45 and '52 Democratic National Conventions, and Alice is a lifelong Republican.

Expecting the question could very well end our conversation, I ask Alice and Antoinette what they think of the wrangling over the abortion plank in the Republican Platform. If not for her seat belt, Antoinette would have leapt out of her seat (7E): "Abortion should not be the government's business," thundered the blind, 85-year-old, practicing Catholic clutching the arm I was trying to steady my notebook with. "The government doesn't produce babies, women do. We should have the right to decide for ourselves!"

Antoinette will vote for Clinton this November, even though she doesn't think he's a very good president, "not compared to Truman or Roosevelt, at least." I ask Alice, the 50-year Republican, practicing Catholic, and anti-immigrant rancher, who she thinks she'll vote for "Don't know," she answers. "We'll have to wait and see. Probably Clinton." Bob Dole is in big trouble.

[SNIP]

https://www.thestranger.com/25-years-of-the-stranger/2016/10/12/24607050/dan-savages-san-diego-diary
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Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
5. We know about them folks
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jun 2020

They even reject their own children. Their children are cast out, sometimes as young teenagers. How cruel to cast out a young person out on to the streets, without any resources, rejected by their family. Does anyone out there know how fucking difficult that situation is for a young, innocent, person? The rejection! The fear! The self hate!

Basically, these wonderful christians are so willing to let their children die out in the streets, only because of some fucked up religious beliefs? I always believed that a parents worst nightmare is to see their child die. Not anymore. If someone can be this brainwashed to reject their own child, well then, it is done every day, to so many of our LBGTQA youth. Then how can we expect these same people to give up on trump whom they seem to love more than their own flesh and blood? Far too many homeless youth have been tossed out to fend for themselves. I know because I was one of them.

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