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appalachiablue

(41,048 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:47 PM Feb 2021

'Climate Change Will Make Parts of The U.S. Uninhabitable. Americans Are Still Moving There.'



- THE GREAT CLIMATE MIGRATION. 'Climate Change Will Make Parts of the U.S. Uninhabitable. Americans Are Still Moving There.'- ProPublica, *Nov. 10, 2020. Instead of moving away from areas in climate crisis, Americans are flocking to them. As land in places like Phoenix, Houston & Miami becomes less habitable, the country’s migration patterns will be forced to change.

Over the past year, the advent of a professional economy powered by people working from home has quickened the conversation about where to live, particularly among millennials. “Is now the right time to buy property in Minnesota?” “Is Buffalo the new place to be?”

How important is proximity to fresh water? Should you risk moving somewhere that has fire seasons? How far north do you have to go to find liveable summers? Americans have defied the norms of climate migration seen elsewhere in the world, flocking to cities like Phoenix, Houston and Miami that face some of the greatest risks from soaring temperatures and rising sea levels.

Those patterns seem likely to change. New data from the Rhodium Group, analyzed by ProPublica, shows that climate damage will wreak havoc on the southern third of the country, erasing more than 8% of its economic output and likely turning migration from a choice to an imperative.

The data shows that the warming climate will alter everything from how we grow food to where people can plausibly live. Ultimately, millions of people will be displaced by flooding, fires and scorching heat, a resorting of the map not seen since the Dust Bowl of the 1930s. Now as then, the biggest question will be who escapes and who is left behind. ~

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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. I think it makes moving back to Buffalo a real prospect for me.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:11 PM
Feb 2021

Not too thrilling though, when I remember how red that area is.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
2. The city of Buffalo itself is solidly blue.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:21 PM
Feb 2021

Like a lot of cities around the U.S., once you get to the outer suburbs, it starts to turn red.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
3. My son and I discussed this my last move. We talk about it often enough. I am in Oregon, he is in
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 02:05 PM
Feb 2021

Minnesota. I am considering moving to Minnesota and buying property now for this reason. And to be close to him.

RicROC

(1,202 posts)
4. Western New York zone
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 03:06 PM
Feb 2021

Already the Plant Hardiness Zone of Niagara Falls, Rochester and Syracuse is the same moderate zone as in the state of Kentucky. It has its own specified wine region called the Niagara Escarpment AWA which is one of the warmest in New York State such that some wines can be produced there, which cannot be grown in the cooler Finger Lakes.

So, in 30-50 years those towns should have a relatively moderate climate and become a mecca for relocation....believe it or not.

(Besides, the schools are great and there are plenty of colleges and universities in the area. Average pay for teachers is over $75,000, too)

NEOBuckeye

(2,778 posts)
6. Americans are shortsighted and stupid.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:28 PM
Feb 2021

We should be building out Akron rather than Austin. Climate change will show us our folly.

Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
7. Southern Arizona will eventually become uninhabitable
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:30 PM
Feb 2021

but by then I will have joined the Heavenly Choir. (Or gone to a place much hotter than AZ.)

NickB79

(19,110 posts)
8. I'm currently scouting out land in northern-central MN
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:33 PM
Feb 2021

I have a house on 2 acres 30 min south of Minneapolis/St. Paul, but I'm looking to buy more land for hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, tree planting and as an investment.

$30,000 for 30 acres of forested land, often with rivers and lakes nearby.

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hatrack

(59,439 posts)
13. Phoenix: 145 Days Over 100F, 53 Days At/Above 110F; 28 Straight Days w/o Night Temps Below 90F
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:17 PM
Feb 2021

This was last year, not some dystopian novel:

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Phoenix in particular experienced some of its hottest and driest conditions last year, according to a report from the Weather Service. The year also marked the city's second hottest on record with an average temperature of 77.2 degrees, the report said.

The city set a new record for the most days in a year with high temperatures at or above 100 degrees, totaling 145 days, the report said. The previous record was 143 days in 1989. It also saw 53 days last year at or above 110 degrees, according to the report.

In July, Phoenix set a new record for the hottest month ever with an average temperature of 98.9 degrees; however, the record was toppled by August which saw an average temperature of 99.1 degrees, the report said.

The unusually hot August pushed 2020 to the unfortunate title of being the hottest summer ever recorded in Phoenix.

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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-weather/2021/01/29/2020-was-2nd-hottest-2nd-driest-year-ever-recorded-for-arizona/4301588001/

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The overall 2020 heat records in Phoenix are too many to list. But among the more notable are new highs for the number of days at or above 110 (53) and 115 (14) degrees. Not to mention, Phoenix never dropped below 90 degrees for a record 28-night stretch during the summer.

Hottest season on record: Merciless Phoenix heat blasts by all-time monthly, summer milestones

“2020 has pretty much broken every other heat record,” wrote Amber Sullins, chief meteorologist at Phoenix’s ABC television affiliate, in an email.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/10/14/phoenix-record-heat-100-degrees/

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
14. Most of it will come north, as in northern states and Canada.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:05 PM
Feb 2021

There isn’t enough room at the southern tip of South America. Same goes for Southern Africa.

If you think the southern states will be bad, just imagine Mexico, Central America and South America.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
15. There will be political upheaval as well.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:14 PM
Feb 2021

That is why I am keeping a main residence in Michigan, even if I buy an ultra cheap place in FL for the winters.

I want citizenship in whatever happens around Canada and the border states, especially the Great Lakes region.

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