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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:34 PM Nov 2013

Bill Maher Contrasts 'Sex Machine' Kennedy with 'Amiable Square' Reagan





VIDEO with 'better audio' here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-contrasts-sex-machine-kennedy-with-amiable-square-reagan/

Bill Maher waiting until the end of HBO’s Real Time Friday night to address the story that had dominated the news all day on November 22nd, 2013: the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. But instead of simply praising JFK’s legacy, Maher compared and contrasted it with that of the right’s equivalent hero: Ronald Reagan.
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Bill Maher Contrasts 'Sex Machine' Kennedy with 'Amiable Square' Reagan (Original Post) Tx4obama Nov 2013 OP
Love me some Bill Maher Politicalboi Nov 2013 #1
There are two more Maher videos around half way down on the front page Tx4obama Nov 2013 #3
"we want gays in the military" Enrique Nov 2013 #2
Oh Bill you are so EVIL! zeemike Nov 2013 #4
The 80s was also the Don Johnson Look... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #7
I never paid much attention to Don Johnson zeemike Nov 2013 #8
Those things were flimsy after repeated washings and were famous for splitting when you bent over. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #9
Kind of symbolic of the 80s then. zeemike Nov 2013 #10
Love it. Better than the Real News taking Kennedy over the coals on the anniversary of his death. pam4water Nov 2013 #5
Yeah-real classy wasn't it. Boomerproud Nov 2013 #6
Paul Jay seem to know he was doing something stupid and ugly but could not seem to help himself. pam4water Nov 2013 #13
K&R .... and thanks for posting this. Coyotl Nov 2013 #11
Saint Ronnie was suffering from the brain rot already during his first term Major Nikon Nov 2013 #12
Great summary underpants Nov 2013 #14
I'm convinced the Soviets were scared shitless of him, but not for the reasons Republicans allege Major Nikon Nov 2013 #15
After Reagan died Gorbachov let their take on Ronnie known in an interview underpants Nov 2013 #18
Saint Ronnie extended the cold war Major Nikon Nov 2013 #19
Correct underpants Nov 2013 #20
I remember am early 80s MAD magazine cover asking if Reagan was brain dead. Spoiler alert. pam4water Nov 2013 #16
Saint Ronnie once gave a speech to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society Major Nikon Nov 2013 #17
WOW that beat's GWB, "our breast and our brightest". pam4water Nov 2013 #21
60s, the decade of civil rights. 80s, the decade of AIDS. valerief Nov 2013 #22
Falwell claimed AIDS was god's punishment Major Nikon Nov 2013 #23

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. Oh Bill you are so EVIL!
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:24 PM
Nov 2013

And that is why I love him.
But that was a comedy routine, but there is a lot more truth to what he said than you might expect...especialy about the ugly 80s.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. The 80s was also the Don Johnson Look...
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
Nov 2013

Unshaven with a thin suit coat over a pastel t-shirt with white pants with deck shoes.

Then there was the "other" dreaded fashion from the 80s.

Cords.

The pants that told the world your thighs are rubbing together like a cricket.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. I never paid much attention to Don Johnson
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:37 PM
Nov 2013

I don't think I ever saw a single episode of Miami Vice...I basically hated cop shows...still do.
But I remember the look....and cords...never owned a pair though.

Boomerproud

(7,890 posts)
6. Yeah-real classy wasn't it.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:02 PM
Nov 2013

Their last, stomp-your-feet attempt at re-writing history. They just won't give up-but I know that they know they're running out of time.

pam4water

(2,916 posts)
13. Paul Jay seem to know he was doing something stupid and ugly but could not seem to help himself.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 01:51 PM
Nov 2013

I was so glade Robert Kennedy, Jr. did videos and the Rolling Stone article with better insight into his presidency. It's bad enough the right wing nut jobs have both tried and co-opt JFK and belittle him, now the alienated left have to jump in the berate band wagon.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
12. Saint Ronnie was suffering from the brain rot already during his first term
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Nov 2013

He was nothing more than a washed up B-list actor that could read a script. When asked pointed questions he could only recite talking points and was oblivious to what was going on in his own administration, even to the point of forgetting the names of his own cabinet and closest advisers. He was a national embarrassment. When in Brazil he toasted the people of Bolivia. He floated the idea of the USSR and the US teaming up against an alien invasion to Gorbachev. He was a figurehead over the most corrupt administration in history before or since. Even Goldwater didn't believe he had no knowledge of Iran-Contra. In his younger days he was an asshole who was turning in his own union brothers and sisters for the blacklist. Even his own kids didn't like him. Just about everything attributed to him amounts to nothing more than smoke and mirrors. He was even more of a puppet than Shrub. This is who the Republicans all deify. It's comical to anyone who really remembers him.

underpants

(182,290 posts)
14. Great summary
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 02:12 PM
Nov 2013

he is celebrated by them specifically to take some of the oxygen out of the room thus diminishing JFK - they think.

Ronnie is also one of two US Presidents who claimed to have seen a UFO - Carter is the other. Ronnie said he had seen a UFO twice- once in the Governor's airplane and once on the way to a party with Nancy.

He referenced aliens several times and apparently was adamant about getting them into speeches.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/exopolitics_reagan03.htm

2:22 - several examples here

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
15. I'm convinced the Soviets were scared shitless of him, but not for the reasons Republicans allege
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 02:23 PM
Nov 2013

It's kinda like taking the keys away from grandpa, except he has the keys to the nukes and you can't take them away.

underpants

(182,290 posts)
18. After Reagan died Gorbachov let their take on Ronnie known in an interview
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 03:37 PM
Nov 2013

I can't remember what program it was but it was about the Brandenburg gate speech - Gorbachov said that they just looked at Reagan as an actor reading a script. That one line in that one speech meant nothing to the Soviets. They didn't take Rommie seriously and they either probably already knew or the Iceland debacle told them that Reagan was out of his league/he was not all there.

The Soviets knew it was not going to last after Stalin died but held out due to stubbornness is the Red Army from what I have read. They were, undersandibly, more worried about Poppie/Schultz/Cheney than about the figurehead.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
19. Saint Ronnie extended the cold war
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 03:56 PM
Nov 2013

Carter knew the Soviets were swirling the bowl which is why he drew down defense spending. Poppa Bush staffed an alternate intelligence assessment with hawks like Wolfowitz who falsely claimed the Soviets were winning the cold war and had a first strike strategy. They seditiously leaked their bullshit to the press which undermined Carter. Reagan initiated Cold War 2.0 and spewed rhetoric about the "evil empire" which gave raw meat to the Soviet hardliners and extended the cold war for years past what it should have. The loons who claim Raygun ended the cold war don't have a clue. The world would be a much better place if Carter had gotten reelected.

pam4water

(2,916 posts)
16. I remember am early 80s MAD magazine cover asking if Reagan was brain dead. Spoiler alert.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 02:32 PM
Nov 2013

The answer was yes.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
17. Saint Ronnie once gave a speech to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

He stood up in front of a group of real heroes and told a story about a fake one that only happened in the movie, A Wing and a Prayer.

World War II, I was in the Horse Cavalry Reserve, so it was only natural that when I was called up to active duty, I found myself an adjutant in an Air Corps post. [Laughter] The post happened to come directly under Air Corps Intelligence, so the general orders and all the citations from every branch of the service came over my desk. And I used to delay their arrival at the commanding officer's desk while I slipped them under my blotter so that I could read them in the leisure of the evening -- read those wonderful statements, those unbelievable statements of what individuals, all over the world in our Armed Forces had done, particularly those who were being cited for the Congressional Medal of Honor.

And some years after the war was over, I read where a man in Moscow had been awarded their highest honor, their gold medal, but apparently they don't give citations as we do to tell what the medal was awarded for. This man was a Spaniard, had lived in Moscow for 4 years. He'd been a refugee from the Spanish Civil War. He was an interpreter. There wasn't anything in that to warrant his getting the medal. I discovered that 8 years before that he had been in Castro's Cuba, but apparently nothing there. But a journalist, who had the ability to research further than I did, came up with the total story. Before the 8 years in Cuba, he had spent 23 years in Mexico, in prison. He was the man who buried that ice axe mountaineers, mountain climbers carry in the head of Leon Trotsky.

And I found my memory going back to those things that I had read during the war, any one of them a thrilling story of heroism above and beyond the call of duty. But one in particular seemed appropriate at that time. A B - 17 coming back across the channel from a raid over Europe, badly shot up by antiaircraft, the ball turret that hung underneath the belly of the plane had taken a hit. The young ball-turret gunner was wounded, and they couldn't get him out of the turret there while flying.

But over the channel, the plane began to lose altitude, and the commander had to order bail out. And as the men started to leave the plane, the last one to leave -- the boy, understandably, knowing he was left behind to go down with the plane, cried out in terror -- the last man to leave the plane saw the commander sit down on the floor. He took the boy's hand and said, ``Never mind, son, we'll ride it down together.'' Congressional Medal of Honor, posthumously awarded.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1983/121283b.htm

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
23. Falwell claimed AIDS was god's punishment
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

Which evidently included hemophiliac children. Both were shitbags of biblical proportion. No wonder Raygun's kids had no use for him.



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