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erronis

(14,941 posts)
12. Cons love only some fiction. Probably not stuff like "Handmaids Tale" or 1984 or Brave New World
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
Sep 2019

or just about anything that has sentient characters and isn't just all blood and guts.

Leith

(7,802 posts)
8. And meteorology, philosophy,
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:26 PM
Sep 2019

logic, comparative religion, astronomy, and a whole host of other topics I haven't thought of yet.

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
13. And they refute all science out the wazoo.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:29 PM
Sep 2019

Science is not just what scientists do-- it's a way of thinking, the only logical way of thinking. Science teaches us ways to test our fact.

Otherwise, everything just becomes emotional reactions to what people encounter in their world, which results in their taking an egocentric/ narcissistic pov.


ffr

(22,644 posts)
5. This is what makes you elite in their minds, education.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

Just don't do it and you'll fit right in with them.

lastlib

(22,978 posts)
22. Damn! My library is surely a liberal dream!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 08:39 AM
Sep 2019

and a conservanut's worst nightmare! Anybody need a fix of propaganda, come on over!

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
7. A Mighty Thumbs Up to That.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:18 PM
Sep 2019

I had a French teacher who pointed out the irony of the Soviet Union wanting to advance in technology. In order to do so, you have to educate your people. "And when you teach a man to think. . ."

She left her point there, and continued on teaching French adjectives or whatever. I barely remember any French, but that insight remained with me.

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
14. Absolutely! 👍👍 "And when you teach a man to think. . ."
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:33 PM
Sep 2019

I clumsily tried to make that point above about science being a way of thinking.
Logical thought is necessary for objectivity.


Of course wingers think we're illogical.

IronLionZion

(45,250 posts)
9. That's how liberals get children indoctrinated right from school
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:30 PM
Sep 2019

and why conservatives want to cut funding for public education

elleng

(130,126 posts)
16. ALL repugs do; they've worked on attaining this goal for many years,
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 02:17 PM
Sep 2019

and have just about completed it; here we are, with an idiot Potus, and Senate.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
19. Yep.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 06:03 PM
Sep 2019

Here's a Pew Research poll from 2009:
https://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

Most scientists identify as Democrats (55%), while 32% identify as independents and just 6% say they are Republicans.


There's an occasional "odd ball" right-winger, like one of my coworkers who's pretty well educated yet a strong Libertarian.

I finally heard an explanation from him months ago...

He told me that he used to be more liberal, but that changed after he was denied the status of "disabled" for an ankle injury that he suffered in the military.

He hobbles around a little bit when he walks, but he's clearly NOT disabled from it. Nonetheless, he believed that he deserved to live off tax payers for the rest of his life. Since that didn't happen, he wants an end to ALL such social programs.

Yes, he's a vindictive jerk in general.

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
21. He does indeed sound like a jerk
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:10 PM
Sep 2019

Who'd be immune to rational arguments. He sounds compartmentalized and perhaps even religious.

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