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Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:58 PM

Serge Gainsbourg - Yay or Nay?

Look there are a lot of levels to this

Serge was Jewish, and showed up during the first day of Vichy Jewish Registration to register himself

This is badass

At the same time, he took up with Brigette Bardot, who was a noted Vichy-supporting Nazi

And yet he didn't connect beyond sex with her

But he was what the #metoo (and I) would describe as "Gender Violent"

He sexually violated Whitney Houston ON NATIONAL FUCKING TV

With his words -- BUT THAT STILL COUNTS

In fact, it may be the worst

But at the same time, he did some amazing musical things

I am torn as whether I should toss him to the pyre or accept it as the part of a time and place?

Please tell me
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Reply Serge Gainsbourg - Yay or Nay? (Original post)
RFCalifornia Oct 2021 OP
viva la Oct 2021 #1
RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #2
dhol82 Oct 2021 #5
dhol82 Oct 2021 #3
RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #4
dhol82 Oct 2021 #6
RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #7
dhol82 Oct 2021 #8
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #9
RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #10
Ron Obvious Oct 2021 #11

Response to RFCalifornia (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:03 PM

1. Have you seen the salacious video he did with

His daughter? Things were wild back then, but even then it was.... offensive.


I am not going to link to it. You can Google "Lemon Incest" but the title tells it all.

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Response to viva la (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:04 PM

2. Yes I have

That was FUUUUUUCKED UP

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Response to viva la (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:07 PM

5. Yup, just read about the daughter.

Fucked up is right.
However, she seems to have survived it and has an Israeli-French partner and three kids.

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Response to RFCalifornia (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:06 PM

3. Considering Bardot was 6 years old at the rise of Vichy France,

I donít really see how she could have been a Vichy supporter of the Nazis.
Serge was 12 at that time.
Not sure what you meant with that.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:07 PM

4. She has made a number of Anti-Semitic Statements in the past n/t

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Response to RFCalifornia (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:08 PM

6. Ok. So she's anti-Semitic. Just didn't get the Vichy reference.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:09 PM

7. It's where French Anti-Semites Align themselves n/t

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Response to RFCalifornia (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:10 PM

8. Ok. Did not know that.

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Response to RFCalifornia (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:18 PM

9. Can I say some people are assholes and I dislike them at a personal level

but consider their music to be a different matter?

Ryan Adams, for example, seems very much like not a good guy when it comes to females ... but I love a ton of his earlier music, and always will.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 12:07 AM

10. I get that n/t

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Response to RFCalifornia (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:42 AM

11. He sang "Je t'aime" with Jane Birkin, which will always have a special place...

 

....in the heart of a kid going through puberty, though.

I knew nothing of his personal life.

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