Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:38 AM
GoneOffShore (16,909 posts)
England is going to host the 2023 Eurovision Song Contest - Just announced.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2022/eurovision-2023-bbc-host-city-process-production-plans
So, Brexit, but Eurovision. We don't want to be in the club, but we want to be in the club.
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GoneOffShore | Jul 2022 | OP |
DFW | Jul 2022 | #1 | |
GoneOffShore | Jul 2022 | #3 | |
DFW | Jul 2022 | #4 | |
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vanlassie | Jul 2022 | #2 |
Response to GoneOffShore (Original post)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:07 AM
DFW (51,151 posts)
1. The Eurovision Song Contest has existed since 1956
The UK joined the EEC in 1973. The song contest has ALWAYS had non-members of the EEC and, later EU. Norway and Switzerland were never members. These days, even Azerbaijan sends songs and artists to sing them. Ukraine, which won this past contest, was never an EU member. Non-members of the EEC (which originally had only six member countries, don't forget), and, later, the EU have ALWAYS participated in the Eurovision contest.
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Response to DFW (Reply #1)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:39 AM
GoneOffShore (16,909 posts)
3. I know about how long England has been involved. It's just funny that they wanted out of Europe
but still want to be in Europe.
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Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #3)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:57 AM
DFW (51,151 posts)
4. The political and economic makeup of Europe never figured into the Eurovision Song Contest
It was deliberately kept separate, although this year, Putin managed to step over even that line.
Brexit was about politics and economics. It was never about geography or music, and it's place on the map never changed. By the same token, I always find it amusing when ignorant people in the USA tell me they "speak American." I tell them, "no, you don't, you speak European." After the inevitable "whaddya mean by that?" I explain that England is in Europe. Spain is in Europe, too. If you speak Spanish, you also speak European. Same goes for French and Portuguese. If you tell me you speak "American," then you speak Navajo, Hopi, Seminole, Tlingit, Lakota, Nahuatl, or one of whatever languages are indigenous to the Western Hemisphere. Republicans don't like to hear that, of course. |
Response to DFW (Reply #4)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 11:02 AM
GoneOffShore (16,909 posts)
5. Some of my musician friends in England and France have been directly affected by Brexit.
The paperwork required for touring, now that the UK is no longer in the club, is hobbling them. So, the geography and music are now entwined with the politics.
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Response to GoneOffShore (Original post)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:09 AM
vanlassie (5,207 posts)