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Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:25 PM Mar 2013

PC Police Investigate Shooting - 911 call of shooting

The Communications Center received a 911 call from a resident in the 1300 block of North Pine Street at 4:29 a.m. Thursday reporting that someone was trying to force entry into his home, Police Spokeswoman Sherry Bowers said.

One dispatcher stayed on the line with the resident while the other dispatcher sent officers to the home. The resident updated the dispatcher with information as it occurred. Just before officers arrived at 4:30 a.m., the caller reported that the intruder made entry and was shot three times.


http://www.poncacitynews.com/local/PC-Police-Investigate-Shooting

911 call

Strange to me, that the homeowner did not yell at the intruders before they got in the house.
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PC Police Investigate Shooting - 911 call of shooting (Original Post) Paul E Ester Mar 2013 OP
He might go to jail behind that. rrneck Mar 2013 #1
I don't see why... ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3
It sounded legal. rrneck Mar 2013 #5
If he hadn't called 911, it would be more inclined to agree with you ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #6
The dispatcher did not tell him to yell at the intruder. ... spin Mar 2013 #2
Hard to say how one would react in that situation kudzu22 Mar 2013 #4
There are other calls where the 9-1-1 operator stayed on the line as the "victim" Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #7

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. He might go to jail behind that.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

Sounds like somebody had a beef with him and he didn't mind shooting them over it.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. I don't see why...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:44 PM
Mar 2013

When an unknown person breaks down your door and enters an occupied residence, even in the most regressive places in the US, deadly force is normally allowed. A triple tap (if that is what it was) is a often taught approach to such events.

There may be disqualifying circumstances, have to wait and see.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
5. It sounded legal.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:54 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sure there was evidence of forced entry. But this guy just reminds me of that idiot a while back that went to break up a party and recorded the encounter for "evidence". This guy sounds less like someone in fear for his life and more like someone lying in wait while on the phone to 911. If I were the DA I'd want to take a close look at this one.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
6. If he hadn't called 911, it would be more inclined to agree with you
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:00 AM
Mar 2013

The shooters behavior was no different than many under similar circumstances.

spin

(17,493 posts)
2. The dispatcher did not tell him to yell at the intruder. ...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:41 PM
Mar 2013

He might simply have been following instructions.

I probably would have yelled at the intruder as perhaps he thought the house was unoccupied. Telling him that I was on the phone with the police might have discouraged him. I would not want to have to shoot another person unless I had absolutely no other choice.

Still some will point out that there are advantages to taking cover and waiting for the intruder to enter. You should have time to appraise the intruder to judge the threat and also to be certain that he has no right to be in the house.

In passing, I found it disturbing when Joe Biden recommended shooting through the door with a double barreled shotgun.


Vice President Joe Biden told Field & Stream magazine in an interview published Monday, "[if] you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door."
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/28/biden-advises-shooting-shotgun-through-door


Following his advice will land you in a lot of trouble and possibly time in jail.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
4. Hard to say how one would react in that situation
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:00 PM
Mar 2013

I'd like to think I'd open a window and yell out to tell them to quit kicking my door. Maybe it could resolve the situation there. If I did that and they still kept coming, I'd feel fully justified in shooting as soon as they got in.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. There are other calls where the 9-1-1 operator stayed on the line as the "victim"
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 04:06 PM
Mar 2013

retreated to a safer place in the house, and was not advised to "yell" or "warn" the intruder. This may be an attempt to keep the criminal from finding him/her more quickly, since a shout would direct the punk toward the victim. You can find these home invasion tapes on the innertube. I have yet to hear an operator instructing the would-be victim to yell or warn the intruder. I sure wouldn't advise such, nor would I warn an intruder who may be armed, utterly bent on mayhem, and unconcerned with how far LEO is from the scene.

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