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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:44 AM Jan 2014

GD to allow shooting incidents involving children to be posted?

According to DU mail I received today from another DU member, Skinner will allow gun incident postings involving children. Expect a spate of these, along with other gun OPs that meet GD's crumbling "exceptions."

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GD to allow shooting incidents involving children to be posted? (Original Post) Eleanors38 Jan 2014 OP
I don't think this OP meets the group's SOP Kaleva Jan 2014 #1
. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #2
I already gave up on that exception Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #3
My observation has been pro-2A folks have refrained Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #5
yes, and based on their alerting of GD gun threads, it appears they don't want guns spoken of there CreekDog Jan 2014 #21
When an incident involves the death of a child, expect to see a lot of threads in GD about it. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #4
Of course. Most of the people shot don't matter to them. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #10
Newtown got far more coverage than would have been had for non-white victims. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #14
so you are requesting more gun threads so that nonwhite victims are covered more? CreekDog Jan 2014 #22
YAY!!! I was actually just wondering if you have as many years in the City as me. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #24
interesting. are you sure you were in San Francisco then? CreekDog Jan 2014 #36
I remember those days like it was yesterday, like the world was coming to an end. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #37
so you're saying the RKBA group is less racist than the rest of DU? CreekDog Jan 2014 #27
My observation is that the GD Hosts have sort of averaged out to the petronius Jan 2014 #6
While I have hosted other forums but not GD, I could see in the Host's forum that it wasn't easy Kaleva Jan 2014 #11
I know that the clutter and time that might be wasted trashing threads is petronius Jan 2014 #13
Guns kill chillins too ya know. ileus Jan 2014 #7
Perhaps we should help? DonP Jan 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #15
Well, since another member has decided to cross post replies, I'm self deleting the above. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #16
why did you delete this? i don't understand. i didn't see anything offensive in this: CreekDog Jan 2014 #23
Dedicated to you: NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #26
why won't you answer why it is despite liking guns so much, you don't want them discussed in GD? CreekDog Jan 2014 #28
The pro gun rights side is so far ahead I'm embarrassed for you, CD! NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #29
Dodging the question will just make me more sure that I'm right CreekDog Jan 2014 #30
Talk to Skinner. When the SOP changes, we'll talk gun rights in GD, mkay? For now, Let's all chant NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #31
Skinner can't tell me why you and other gungeoners don't want guns discussed in GD CreekDog Jan 2014 #32
For me, it's because GD gun threads invariably descend into utter asshattery. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #38
There is far more asshattery here in the gungeon than there is in GD Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #39
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #40
The gungeon is viewed as a toxic cesspool by much of DU Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #41
Changes nothing. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #42
You are hardly innocent of the divisiveness you condemn from others Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #43
Plenty of pot.kettle.black to go around, then. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #44
My point is you act as a hall monitor crusading against divisiveness while being divisive yourself Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #46
You're "tired" of a strawman. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #49
So in a single post you claim you are not divisive and then scream "DON'T OPEN MY FUCKING POSTS" Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #50
Priceless. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #51
And you prove my point once again Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #52
Okay, I've obviously been a bit slow on the uptake this morning. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #53
Yet another personal attack from you Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #55
And yet, here you are ...... oldhippie Jan 2014 #45
Sometimes bullshit needs to be challenged even if that means walking into a toxic cesspool Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #47
I heartily agree ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #48
+1 CreekDog Jan 2014 #60
May I ask your opinion... sarisataka Jan 2014 #57
I have alerted on posts like the ones you mentioned before Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #58
Fair enough... sarisataka Jan 2014 #59
If there were actual _discussions_, I'd urge Skinner to change the policy. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #56
The ban on gun threads in GD is a pathetic joke. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #9
No change in the GD SOP. oneshooter Jan 2014 #12
You sound bitterly disappointed that such discussions will be allowed CreekDog Jan 2014 #17
Still no change in the GD SOP. n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #18
However, Skinner has given direction for GD and Gun posts CreekDog Jan 2014 #19
The hosts have ignored the SOP till now, why not. n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #20
Just looked. oneshooter Jan 2014 #54
You sound bitterly late to the discussion! Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #33
so you obviously like gun posts, you just don't like them in GD where gun control is popular CreekDog Jan 2014 #25
There you are again with that peculiar interest in me. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #34
it isn't peculiar. it's about why you want us in GD to shut up about guns CreekDog Jan 2014 #35

Kaleva

(36,146 posts)
1. I don't think this OP meets the group's SOP
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:56 AM
Jan 2014

"Statement of Purpose

Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence."

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. I already gave up on that exception
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jan 2014

Unless you were talking about the function of a single type of firearm. Many on the other side have been flooding GD with any story that seems to be mainly guns and anti gun but then they push the fact it is about some tangent in the story so it is "really not" about guns" wink, wink. I let them have their fun now instead of complaining. Skinner seems to be allowing this to go on so I guess it is OK. Most of these OPs end up in the usual name calling and mean spirited comments from the other side. Really shows the difference in the two sides. I just hope Skinner also allows self defense stories to also stand. I would be disappointed if he allows one side but not the other to post.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
5. My observation has been pro-2A folks have refrained
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:06 PM
Jan 2014

for the most part in posting gun threads of any sort in GD; the controllers every chance they get.

Should we start posting OPs in GD on a regular basis?

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
21. yes, and based on their alerting of GD gun threads, it appears they don't want guns spoken of there
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jan 2014

yet these are posters whose favorite topic is often guns.

so what gives? perhaps they only want guns discussed in forums where they already dominate.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. When an incident involves the death of a child, expect to see a lot of threads in GD about it.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jan 2014

The exceptions are, loosely stated, if it's a child and if it's big news, or national news.

Some of the hosts fall on different sides of the question, what's big news, not surprisingly.

A shooting only involving adults that doesn't make national news is likely to be locked.

The shooting at the grocery yesterday with two victims plus shooter, GD.

Baby shot by stray bullet, GD.

Grandma defends herself against home invasion robbers, LOCK.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. Of course. Most of the people shot don't matter to them.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jan 2014

Those are just, you know...dark people, at least in large portion. It's okay to sweep them under the rug and focus on the occasional poor, innocent (white) child.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
14. Newtown got far more coverage than would have been had for non-white victims.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 02:42 AM
Jan 2014

Other tragedies involving non-white student victims are already forgotten.

Patrick Purdy comes to mind.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
22. so you are requesting more gun threads so that nonwhite victims are covered more?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:27 AM
Jan 2014

because that is truly your concern, that this is unfair to people of color.

ps-tell us how many of the Newtown victims were white.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
24. YAY!!! I was actually just wondering if you have as many years in the City as me.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:30 AM
Jan 2014

I was working there when Jonestown went down, when Harvey Milk and Moscone went down, the overhead highway was there, I took the Broadway exit.

We may have run into each other.

Anyway, these were some good times, Mayor Fienstein was a downer, tho.



One more:

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
36. interesting. are you sure you were in San Francisco then?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 06:20 AM
Jan 2014

I'd think you'd know how to spell Dianne Feinstein.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
37. I remember those days like it was yesterday, like the world was coming to an end.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jan 2014

Super mass murder in Jonestown, murders in city hall, cop cars on fire.

Yeah, I was there. She's my senator now, doncha know!

Sometimes I spell it "DINO".

petronius

(26,580 posts)
6. My observation is that the GD Hosts have sort of averaged out to the
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jan 2014

following, with regards to the "no guns" part of the GD SoP:

1) if it involves a child being shot, it's OK for GD,
2) if it's sourced from a national (e.g. CNN, NBC, ...) or international source it's 'big news' and OK for GD,
3) if it's national in scope (e.g. fed. policy) it's 'big news' and OK for GD,
4) if it's a comment on or discussion thread about a thread from the preceding categories, it's OK for GD.

I'm not a GD Host and don't intend to be*, so this is just my personal sense of how it's working.


* Given that GD seems to have the most nebulous SoP of the big forums, followed by the Lounge, hosting GD seems to be one of the more difficult gigs. If it was up to me, I'd scrap the GD SoP entirely, or at least open it much wider; it is after all a "general" forum, and we all have more tools (trash thread, trash by keyword, ignore) than on previous DU versions to manage our own experiences...

Kaleva

(36,146 posts)
11. While I have hosted other forums but not GD, I could see in the Host's forum that it wasn't easy
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jan 2014

LPN was busy but that was mainly dealing with duplicates and opinion pieces.

As for GD, I've recently submitted SOP alerts on two gun related threads there. Neither was locked but one did sink out of sight quickly on its own and the other did become big news (the shooting in the theater).

I don't think it'd be a good idea to scrap the SOP for GD entirely. While one can use the trash thread feature, a person might well be spending an inordinate amount of time trashing CS threads, I/P threads and so on.

I think gun threads ought to be prohibited in GD unless it's big news but some members here have very strong feelings about the issue and will always try to push the envelope in GD. It ebbs and flows. There is no real solution that will make most everyone happy.

petronius

(26,580 posts)
13. I know that the clutter and time that might be wasted trashing threads is
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

the argument for keeping some things out of GD, but I'm not sure that's really the case. As I look at GD today (and every day), I see that the majority of threads are things I didn't bother to click on, but reading past them hasn't interfered at all with my experience. Even during a big DUst-up, when GD explodes with porn, cheese sandwiches, starfish, or whatever threads, it doesn't cost me more than a minute or two to trash or bypass the noise.

Looked at another way, there are 6 excluded categories in the GD SoP, linked to 6 Groups or Categories. I just counted that there are 70 threads in those Groups/Categories that were kicked at least once today - while ~415 GD threads have been kicked today (some 100s of times). If everyone of those 70 other threads was mixed into GD, I don't think it would have made a bit of difference in the experience.

But you're right, there's no solution that will make everyone happy - and really none of it should make anyone unhappy. We post things we think are interesting enough to share, we read things that look interesting, and beyond that there shouldn't be cause for any angst...

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. Perhaps we should help?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jan 2014

Cutting and pasting all, or even half, of the reports from the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times of "children" shot daily on the "gun free streets" might make some folks sick of the stupidity and multiple gun posts in GD? Never a shortage and since we're posting kid related stories it must be OK.

After 8 or 9+ every day in GD, they might get tired of the same old song.

Like this one today, that proves once again that thieves only want your stuff, so just give it to them.

Teen shot after handing over cell phone to armed robber

"Kevin Baker and his cousin had just handed over their cell phones to the robbers when one of them had a question for the 19-year-old: What gang was he rolling with?

"My nephew was sorta stunned," Patricia Butler said this morning, a day after the shooting. "He was like, ‘Huh?’ It stunned him. Before he could let it out, they shot him. They surprised him. He ain't in no gang."

Baker was struck in the head and the abdomen, Butler said. A woman who was walking about half a block away called 911 and Baker was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center, where he was listed in critical condition.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-lawn-shooting-20140116,0,2159364.story

You could add DC and a few other places where guns are common too. LA comes to mind too.

Response to DonP (Reply #8)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
16. Well, since another member has decided to cross post replies, I'm self deleting the above.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

Fucking loser. Unbelievable.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. why did you delete this? i don't understand. i didn't see anything offensive in this:
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:30 AM
Jan 2014
NYC_SKP (57,014 posts)
15. Do it.

I'm serious. I'll help.

If you can't beat them, join them.

I am serious. I think they will get tired of it.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=135726

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
28. why won't you answer why it is despite liking guns so much, you don't want them discussed in GD?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:04 AM
Jan 2014

is it not a fair discussion when your side is outnumbered?

because you don't oppose such discussions in here.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. The pro gun rights side is so far ahead I'm embarrassed for you, CD!
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:11 AM
Jan 2014

Here's a fact. I know I know I know, it's an NRA talking point yargergrabl.

By almost 2:1, new gun laws favor the Second Amendment. Please pass this on to billh58 and others who proclaim movement in what they think is the right direction.



http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/10/us/state-gun-laws-enacted-in-the-year-since-newtown.html?_r=1&

These. Are. The Breaks!



Here's another one for you:



CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
30. Dodging the question will just make me more sure that I'm right
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:28 AM
Jan 2014

this is about GD. why are you trying to stop gun posts in GD but not here?

because you're outnumbered in GD. perhaps not in society at large, but we aren't talking about society at large, we're talking about GD.

why do you want to stop gun posts in GD, where your side is so heavily outnumbered?

why?

and in that LBN thread that you wanted locked, you came up with 3 different reasons to lock it in a couple hours.

you were straining to come up with reasons to lock that thread. why?

you just don't want guns discussed by the general readership of DU.



 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
31. Talk to Skinner. When the SOP changes, we'll talk gun rights in GD, mkay? For now, Let's all chant
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:30 AM
Jan 2014

I'm sure you're too young too remember these songs or you'd respond more affectionately!

ETA correct link. doh.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
32. Skinner can't tell me why you and other gungeoners don't want guns discussed in GD
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:39 AM
Jan 2014

when guns are often a favorite topic among many of you --hey, that's why this thread is here, right?

you all like to talk about guns, you just don't want them discussed in GD.

why? why so coy about what's going on here?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
38. For me, it's because GD gun threads invariably descend into utter asshattery.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

They're not so much "discussions of gun issues" as they are excuses for a certain segment of the DU population to indulge in vitriolic personal attacks, bullshit amateur psychoanalysis, bigoted generalizations, and other forms of deeply divisive, self-indulgent crap. Gun threads in GD have proven to be pure cancer for the DU community, and Skinner was absolutely right to ban them. That ban, however, has become meaningless, as the hosts virtually never enforce it.

If there were much in the way of actual rational discussion in those threads, I'd be all for them.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
40. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jan 2014

Personally, I don't think whatever asshattery that occurs here even comes close to the level seen in GD gun threads.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
41. The gungeon is viewed as a toxic cesspool by much of DU
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jan 2014

There is a reason so many former gungeon dwellers have been banned from this site completely, there have been many cases of people in this group outright advocating violence. There have been far more gun nuts banned from this site than anti-gun voices and there is good reason for that.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
42. Changes nothing.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jan 2014

None of that is particularly relevant to the asshattery I was discussing, which was about personal attacks, self-serving "telepsychoanalysis," bigoted sweeping generalizations, etc. My objection to gun threads in GD has nothing to do with whatever RW trolls might be doing on DU (and yes, the gungeon draws a good few of those, as one would expect it to). It has to do with those GD threads acting as a divisive, poisonous cancer in a liberal community.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
44. Plenty of pot.kettle.black to go around, then.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jan 2014

Do you have a point, or are you just looking for a pissing match? If the latter, you'll be doing it solo.

Have a wonderful day.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
46. My point is you act as a hall monitor crusading against divisiveness while being divisive yourself
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jan 2014

I am tired of your constant complaining that people are posting things you disagree with. Many people want to discuss guns in GD and we are sick of hearing your whining everytime we do. If Skinner wanted to enforce the rule in as strict of fashion as you want it enforced he would enforce it that way, but he is giving some leeway to allow a certain amount of discussion and your complaints about that discussion taking place are quite tiresome.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
49. You're "tired" of a strawman.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jan 2014

I don't complain about people posting things I disagree with. That's bullshit (unless you're counting personal attacks, etc...those I'll continue to "complain" about, and if you don't like it, tough shit). Opposing divisive, harmful, distracting asshattery on these forums is not itself divisive.

Once again (since you seem to be having difficulty comprehending it), I'm not complaining about "discussion taking place" in GD gun threads. As I stated quite clearly, it's the fact that any real, reasoned discussion so seldom takes place in those threads that constitutes my objection to them. If there were ecent discussions on gun issues there, I'd be lobbying Skinner to drop the restrictions myself.

Got it? Good.

Oh, and if you're sick of me and others complaining about the constant violation of the rules in GD, then DON'T OPEN MY FUCKING POSTS. It's that simple...

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
50. So in a single post you claim you are not divisive and then scream "DON'T OPEN MY FUCKING POSTS"
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jan 2014

Thanks for proving my point.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
51. Priceless.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jan 2014

You whine about people opposing the very sort of pissing match you elected to start here and suggesting how you might avoid have your tender sensibilities so cruelly outraged...then actually think that proves some sort of point?

Oh, God...my sides.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
53. Okay, I've obviously been a bit slow on the uptake this morning.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:28 PM
Jan 2014

My troll radar is usually a bit better attuned than this. You are rather obviously just trolling for a pissing match, and to my considerable embarrassment, I gave you one. Find another target for your crocodile tears and faux outrage, Sparky...I'm done here. Do let me know if you'd like to have an actual, you know...discussion some time.

I won't hold my breath...

sarisataka

(18,220 posts)
57. May I ask your opinion...
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:11 PM
Jan 2014

on such statements as "all gun owners should be droned" or "have the death penalty for owning a gun" or "hopefully the two gun owners will kill each other" that have all been in GD in the fairly recent past...

Having been on the jury for one of them, it was allowed to stand 4-2, comments were along the lines of it's just gun owners, no loss.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
58. I have alerted on posts like the ones you mentioned before
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:18 PM
Jan 2014

Violent rhetoric is the one and only thing that I always alert on no matter which side it comes from, I have alerted on people from my own side of the argument when I thought they were advocating violence. Far more often however it is the gun promoters who try to justify violence.

sarisataka

(18,220 posts)
59. Fair enough...
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jan 2014

I may disagree an specific numbers but I don't read every gun related thread. It is like watching a merry-go-round

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
56. If there were actual _discussions_, I'd urge Skinner to change the policy.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jan 2014

Yeah, I realize the policy is meaningless, since it's violated with impunity, but that doesn't change the fact that most pro-RKBA posters wouldn't mind gun threads in GD is they actually contained more good, reasoned discussion than they do asshattery. What actually tends to happen in those threads just reinforces the reasoning behind the ban.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. The ban on gun threads in GD is a pathetic joke.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

I've stopped alerting on them, since one of my alerts was outed in a public forum by an unprincipled assclown. Said assclown also being a fucking host of GD, this situation's not getting any better. Yep...one of the people tasked with enforcing the rules violates them with impunity...and outs people who disagree via the "private" alert system by posting their alert in AtA..

Fucked up beyond all repair? Yep...

Time to extract what entertainment value I can out of this place before I get banned (probably for actually daring to object to shitty behavior by one of the "chosen ones.&quot .

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
19. However, Skinner has given direction for GD and Gun posts
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jan 2014

if you'd like GD hosts to ignore those directions, why don't you let us know.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
20. The hosts have ignored the SOP till now, why not. n/t
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

Besides we have only your say so that it has happened.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
54. Just looked.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jan 2014

Seems you are not a host of GD.
Number Hosts Days served
1 In_The_Wind 90
2 fishwax 88
3 Warren Stupidity 83
4 Baitball Blogger 82
5 Hutzpa 80
6 Autumn 75
7 Violet_Crumble 71
8 greytdemocrat 66
9 Hassin Bin Sober 61
10 Warren DeMontague 57
11 DevonRex 49
12 pacalo 48
13 Sissyk 47
14 idwiyo 43
15 Agschmid 42
16 rhett o rick 23
17 Grateful for Hope 21
18 cyberswede 17
19 hrmjustin 7
20 mtnester

You are however a wanna be Host.
1 Luminous Animal 62
2 Stinky The Clown 57
3 aikoaiko 53
4 Purveyor 47
5 azurnoir 43
6 Little Star 41
7 CreekDog

So you really don't know what Skinner wants. Just what YOU want.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
33. You sound bitterly late to the discussion!
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jan 2014


I don't care where the discussion is, just as long as there is some consistency and predictability, no matter how stilted.

You are rather hung up on a rather personal interest in me. While in some contexts that could be seen as flattering, but I would suggest staying focused on philosophical and policy concerns.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
25. so you obviously like gun posts, you just don't like them in GD where gun control is popular
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:33 AM
Jan 2014

you know, that would explain why you and many other posters who post mostly about guns and alert many, many threads in GD about guns --but not elsewhere.

you just don't want guns discussed where gun control is more popular than opposing gun control?

well that's interesting.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
35. it isn't peculiar. it's about why you want us in GD to shut up about guns
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 06:16 AM
Jan 2014

while proclaiming some sort of progressive mantle which kind of rings hollow when your main topic is guns and you mainly don't want it discussed in one of our busiest forums (because gun control actually is more popular there).

it's also about not letting you do that without notice from the larger community that you are undermining.

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