Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:08 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

Caution fellow Pro2A DUers. The Hide forces are organized. Anything goes...

in the way of insult, denigration, smear, and untruths. You know the drill.

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Caution fellow Pro2A DUers. The Hide forces are organized. Anything goes... (Original post)	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	OP
I, too, noticed that. Not a poster in this group, but saw this in Latest Threads.	merrily	Jun 2015	#1
Was it topic other than guns?	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#7
Yes. Two of them, in fact, both political.	merrily	Jun 2015	#14
This was the reason behind my suggesting	edgineered	Jun 2015	#2
I like that, WOES	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#4
Yup, WOES is me. Ah well, could be worse.	appal_jack	Jun 2015	#11
Yep	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#12
Incorrect. The request was to clean house of the gun trolls, instead of banning them piecemeal.	Electric Monk	Jun 2015	#24
Ah, that clears it up	Shamash	Jun 2015	#43
Its an easy mistake to make.	beevul	Jun 2015	#45
Someone who keeps on getting banned and re-registering just to talk about guns? Yep, that's a troll.	Electric Monk	Jun 2015	#55
I suppose you can prove that allegation.	Straw Man	Jun 2015	#56
Works for me. Now list the DU members in that topic who meet that qualification.	Shamash	Jun 2015	#57
So who are all of these people	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#61
So you can hide my post with a jury? I'm not going to fall for that. You know I'm right, though. nt	Electric Monk	Jun 2015	#72
In other words, you have no problem at all making allegations knowing you can not back them up.	beevul	Jun 2015	#73
I would not be surprised of an alert	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#75
I rarely alert	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#74
How could we possibly get something like that hidden?	Shamash	Jun 2015	#77
It will never happen	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#78
Thank you, I needed that....	beevul	Jun 2015	#79
Their hate runs deep for the only true progressives that post about the 2A.	ileus	Jun 2015	#51
WOES! ^^^	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#9
Yes I see that	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#3
"be very polite in your posts so they have nothing to alert on."	beevul	Jun 2015	#6
It also tends to get them all flustered	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#8
I second this suggestion.	beevul	Jun 2015	#5
I think there are really only a couple	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#10
As a gun owner, I understand why and agree with it. Can't we put the assumed victimhood...	marble falls	Jun 2015	#13
Sorry, but no free pass for people who equate rage & hatred with compassion...	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#15
A little empathy goes a long way. When have guns been more available and more deadly....	marble falls	Jun 2015	#16
I have some problems with your characterization of the problem...	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#17
All I'm saying is that US citizens have never been better strapped than they are now. .....	marble falls	Jun 2015	#29
I guess what I am saying is only one "side" is requested to mourn....	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#66
it apppears so	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#69
Well you used	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#19
Go to a Texas "gun show".	marble falls	Jun 2015	#30
Are you saying you can legally buy	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#32
No I am not saying you can buy "machine guns" at Texas gun shows, I said "go to Texas 'gun shows'"..	marble falls	Jun 2015	#35
Yes, I have been to gun shows	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#39
still can't	gejohnston	Jun 2015	#34
To answer the question in your subject line, see below	Shamash	Jun 2015	#25
Well said.	beevul	Jun 2015	#18
I'm willingmto leave well enough alone when some tragedy arises...	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#20
I agree, well said. n/t	Shamash	Jun 2015	#27
As a car owner, I understand why and agree with it. Can't we put the assumed victimhood...	virginia mountainman	Jun 2015	#21
Jury results.	edbermac	Jun 2015	#22
WOES Award!	edgineered	Jun 2015	#23
You should see my ballet routine. Uh, maybe not.	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#70
Well, what a coincidence!	Shamash	Jun 2015	#26
But, the vote to NOT hide it was unanimous though. n/t	Jamastiene	Jun 2015	#28
Exactly! n/t	Shamash	Jun 2015	#31
and I rest my case on alert stalkers	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#33
Oh look.	beevul	Jun 2015	#36
I seem to remember another one a couple of weeks ago	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#42
I think admin should see that.	beevul	Jun 2015	#44
It is sleazy	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#47
I'll bet that was the same...er..."fellow DU'er" that got a hide on me...	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2015	#38
I am quite sure I know who alerts on my posts	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#41
This is what I got sent when I was blocked for a mistaken post over there...	beevul	Jun 2015	#46
That was a first for me	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#48
jumping jesus on a pogo stick...talk about thin skinned.	ileus	Jun 2015	#50
yep nt	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#52
"Delicate Flowers". (nt)	blueridge3210	Jun 2015	#58
Delicate Flowers	SecularMotion	Jun 2015	#59
Which group is afraid of debate?	blueridge3210	Jun 2015	#60
That would be the ones	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#62
Yup.	blueridge3210	Jun 2015	#67
one comes over here	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#68
I think I know the thread (and poster) you're referring to.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2015	#37
Well I had an apology hidden	Duckhunter935	Jun 2015	#40
Kinda normal from the 2A progressives aren't "real" democrats folks.	ileus	Jun 2015	#49
Sometimes I wonder if some of them think we are just real folks.	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#63
That is why I'm just trying to keep my mouth shut across the board and posting OP's. Safer that	Purveyor	Jun 2015	#53
I've increased my postage as well. Seems to work.	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#64
I'll have to spend some time lurking over there	tularetom	Jun 2015	#54
I exchanged mail with a moderate controller who has noticed the phenomenon as well...	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#65
So if you are a Sanders supporter who also supports RKBA, you're in the crosshairs so to speak	tularetom	Jun 2015	#71
If it's any comfort	HassleCat	Jun 2015	#76
Actually, you can say whatever you want!	Eleanors38	Jun 2015	#80
You noticed that too, eh?	NaturalHigh	Jun 2015	#81

Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:11 PM

merrily (45,251 posts)

1. I, too, noticed that. Not a poster in this group, but saw this in Latest Threads.

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Response to merrily (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:27 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

7. Was it topic other than guns?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 02:00 PM

merrily (45,251 posts)

14. Yes. Two of them, in fact, both political.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:23 PM

edgineered (2,101 posts)

2. This was the reason behind my suggesting

a Week of WOES Award in the Pastafarian Group.

WOES (walking on egg shells) is a sad fact of life on this board. Anytime anyone in the real world affronts our alert stalkers all members of a given group are forced to walk on egg shells, hence the Week of WOES Award.

It looks like this group wins ? again.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:37 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

4. I like that, WOES

I have found myself doing that a lot as a firearms owner and DU member.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:35 PM

appal_jack (3,813 posts)

11. Yup, WOES is me. Ah well, could be worse.

The gnashing of teeth by castle bansalot is unlikely to translate into real world action.

-app

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:40 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

12. Yep

The people in bansalot are so scared of RKBA, they rad to Skinner to try and get this group removed, another epic fail.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 04:51 PM

Electric Monk (13,869 posts)

24. Incorrect. The request was to clean house of the gun trolls, instead of banning them piecemeal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628795#post9

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:09 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

43. Ah, that clears it up

While you're here, perhaps you could define exactly what you mean by "gun troll"? Since I was part of a discussion of whose participants you said:

"Fucking gun trolls. DU would be much better off without them"

I just wanted to see that if I, as a supporter of same-sex marriage rights, womens reproductive rights, prosecuting Bush for war crimes, improvement of background check laws and having been a Democratic voter longer than you've been alive kind of person, avoid meeting your definition of "fucking gun troll".

Clearing that up for all of us so that we see you only use the term "fucking gun troll" appropriately and in the spirit of liberal tolerance and comity with which it was no doubt intended when applied to your fellow liberal DUers, would do a great deal towards clearing your reputation of any scurrilous accusations that you're a vacuous, intolerant hack.

This sort of clarity might also get Skinner off your back when you call people "assholes", if you could just explain how you meant it to be a considerate and constructive form of criticism.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:28 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

45. Its an easy mistake to make.

What with the repeated assertions by his members that our group should be done away with by Admin.

(Do I really need to cite any?)

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Response to Shamash (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:31 AM

Electric Monk (13,869 posts)

55. Someone who keeps on getting banned and re-registering just to talk about guns? Yep, that's a troll.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #55)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:03 AM

Straw Man (6,212 posts)

56. I suppose you can prove that allegation.

Otherwise you really wouldn't be justified in making it, would you?

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #55)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:06 AM

Shamash (597 posts)

57. Works for me. Now list the DU members in that topic who meet that qualification.

You clearly had specific users in mind when you were talking about that particular story, otherwise you would not think the admins could "clean house" of them. The way you talked about it, it sounds like you got dogpiled by a whole pack of them.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #55)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:31 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

61. So who are all of these people

Since you are so informed.

I love how you always make unsubstantiated accusations of RKBA members and when challenged go running away.

Put up up or shut up, let's see you post some names or just apologize to us right now.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #61)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:04 PM

Electric Monk (13,869 posts)

72. So you can hide my post with a jury? I'm not going to fall for that. You know I'm right, though. nt

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #72)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:13 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

73. In other words, you have no problem at all making allegations knowing you can not back them up.

There is a word for that.

And that word would tend to indicate behavior unbecoming a group host.

<braces self for malicious alert>

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Response to beevul (Reply #73)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:24 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

75. I would not be surprised of an alert

I know of one poster that has a very thin skin from experience. From one of my hides.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling out the host (EM) of a safe haven group (GCRA) that this person (duckhunter) has long been blocked from (gun nuts not allowed), for something not even written by that host. Hosts aren't responsible for everything posted by other members. This arrogant gun nut needs to be reminded what website they are on, and they are not on ar15.com.

Intentionally rude, hurtful, inappropriate = hide.

I like the insult in the alert itself, I am curious who the alerter might be? Only the shadow knows.......

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #72)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:20 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

74. I rarely alert

and when I do unlike others I will admit to it. I think it is better to show how you can not back up your claims when challenged here. It tends to make your points even less effective as other posters see the baseless accusations you post here. Of course you can always go back to the back slapping group over in bansalot that you host and post all you want without being challenged.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #72)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:42 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

77. How could we possibly get something like that hidden?

I mean, you've defined a "fucking gun troll" in a way that makes them people who are in clear violation of DU's terms of service and should be banned:

Someone who keeps on getting banned and re-registering just to talk about guns? Yep, that's a troll.

Calling these people out would be a public service and the site admins would surely be on your side.
And the context of your other statements makes it clear that you identified more than one person of that type.

Just think of what it would do to your sterling reputation to make an accusation like that and not follow through with evidence to support it. Besides, you owe it to the DU community to immediately provide proof of this gross misconduct to the admins so that they can take strong action against malicious, unprincipled types who are clueless as to what being a liberal is all about.

I for one most sincerely hope that they do.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #77)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:59 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

78. It will never happen

But it would be a great service to DU and MIRT.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #77)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:20 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

79. Thank you, I needed that....

Just think of what it would do to your sterling reputation...

Thank you, I needed that, but I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything, because my monitor certainly doesn't.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:45 PM

ileus (15,396 posts)

51. Their hate runs deep for the only true progressives that post about the 2A.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:28 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

9. WOES! ^^^

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:36 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

3. Yes I see that

and I am quite sure we all know who the ones that are doing the alerting are. It just proves again that some are more equal here than others. If I am on a jury, I always vote on the content of the post not my opinion on the poster or subject. Remember star members to carefully use all of your jury blacklist slots. This helped me out greatly and also be very polite in your posts so they have nothing to alert on.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:25 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

6. "be very polite in your posts so they have nothing to alert on."

"be very polite in your posts so they have nothing to alert on."

Yes, this 100 times. If they eat enough failed alerts, it will both discourage their bad alerting, while highlighting it for all to see.

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Response to beevul (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:27 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

8. It also tends to get them all flustered

A bonus as it were. 😀

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:17 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

5. I second this suggestion.

The new tactic seems to be to wait until long drawn arguments are well under way, then mass multiple alert on multiple posts by an RKBAer who has been very active in said discussion, in the hopes that one or two are hidden by an anti-gun biased jury.

But rest easy, I have been assured by our colleagues on the other side of the issue, that there is no culture war.

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Response to beevul (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:32 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

10. I think there are really only a couple

Main alert stalkers. They tend to be active in those particular posts. I think we know who they are.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:54 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

13. As a gun owner, I understand why and agree with it. Can't we put the assumed victimhood...

of gun ownership on simmer for even a week? Nine people were killed by a legally owned gun. What are we going to do about that?????

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 02:11 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

15. Sorry, but no free pass for people who equate rage & hatred with compassion...

It is absurd to think a serious discussion site should allow one group to dump its HATEFUL bile slop bucket on another with Impunity.

Not going to happen, esp. since elbowing ones way to the front of GD'S OP line with a shopping list of nastiness is an EXPLICIT tactic of the controller/banners.

Victimhood? No just a dishonest, hypocritical, holier-than-thou hatefest which Should be countered.

I am still curious as to how such a group of supposed liberals has carved out a moral exception, all for themselves.

No. No free passes.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 02:19 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

16. A little empathy goes a long way. When have guns been more available and more deadly....

than they are now? How exactly as a gun owner am I threatened? A little time to cool would be good for both sides.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:08 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

17. I have some problems with your characterization of the problem...

The question you raise about guns is not germane. Guns are as available as they have been since the Civil Rights laws put paid to Jim (large, raucous black bird) gun laws in the sourth, and the concealed carry movement. The gun used in Charleston was designed in c1911. Crime rates are down.

I'm perplexed by your "threatened" reference. This is not a question of threat, but of abusive discussion and other crap found on troll sites, as stated above.

I think what you want is for ONE (1) side to cool down, and for the other to get free reign to pursue an avowed agenda of shaming, taking advantage of a tragedy, and conducting most especially a culture war based on some of the worst hate speech I've seen since the last eruption here. If the "other side" showed some modicum of sympathy or empathy toward the victims of this racist terrorism, then I could let even a few gratuitous remarks slide. But it's a tide of sewage in service of an explicit tactic.

I would prefer to find out if this racist killer has a network, if he follows certain current public figures, if he has cohorts (you heard of the incident in Richmond the day after?). But we hear instead the same doctrines, plugged-in to the Adam Lanza model, and first in line.

Don't you think this incident is a hellnof a lot bigger than a gun?

Thanks for your civil tone in this exchange.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #17)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:14 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

29. All I'm saying is that US citizens have never been better strapped than they are now. .....

We are legally allowed in most states to own magazines over 30 rounds, in some states automatic rifles, "supressors" - silencers, never has there been more lenient laws. I've lived in Arizona so open carry does not bother me a bit. But here in Texas a conceal carry permit need only something like 8 hours of classes.

What happened last Tuesday won't challenge my rights to own firearms a scintilla. Sandy Hook didn't and it was a lot more victims, white and young children and it didn't change anything and that "event" didn't even have political bend except the right to own arms.

We who appreciate our second amendment rights should at least have the grace to allow them to mourn their dead.

Its really not at all about your or my right to own firearms.

Sorry if we can't agree.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:06 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

66. I guess what I am saying is only one "side" is requested to mourn....

...the other can put it off until their rage subsides.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #66)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:20 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

69. it apppears so

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Response to marble falls (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:09 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

19. Well you used

To be able to purchase full up machine guns and other weapons mail order without any background check.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:16 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

30. Go to a Texas "gun show".

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Response to marble falls (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:20 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

32. Are you saying you can legally buy

machine guns or weapons without a background check from an FFL. All machine guns are transferred and tracked via the federal government. I fact all firearms purchases at any gun show booth that has an FFL must have a federal background check.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:25 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

35. No I am not saying you can buy "machine guns" at Texas gun shows, I said "go to Texas 'gun shows'"..

start here:

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/austin/7929-austin-gun-shows.html

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Response to marble falls (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:31 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

39. Yes, I have been to gun shows

even in Texas and Oklahoma. Any booth that has an FFL must follow all federal and state laws and must conduct a federal NICS background check prior to sale.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:23 PM

gejohnston (17,502 posts)

34. still can't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
If you know of someone who is selling silencers or machine guns without the required background check and registration, please call the ATF at this number
https://www.atf.gov/contact/hotlines

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Response to marble falls (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 04:58 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

25. To answer the question in your subject line, see below

Item #1 here.

The entire comment section at that link is a good example of how far certain people will go to avoid answering straight questions on the topic.

As for how exactly you are threatened, simply ask anyone on the gun control side which regulations or laws, if any, they think are excessive and should be repealed. The answer will be "none". The answer has always been "none", even after new laws are passed. The lack of answers on the links' question on magazine limits is a good example. They won't say "this is as low as we ever need to go". It is always "we want more restrictions".

It's exactly the same ratchet abortion opponents use, and exactly as ethical.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:09 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

18. Well said.

Very well said indeed.

They've had a stack of blank passes long enough, and shown to my satisfaction that they're only capable of abusing them.

Treat those blank passes the way they want to treat guns, and see how they howl with rage.

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Response to beevul (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:18 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

20. I'm willingmto leave well enough alone when some tragedy arises...

but it seems everyone else of a different view gets a key to the frat house back bedroom.

There is an implicit assumption that pro2A folks get to be a punching bag every time. Not anymore.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:03 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

27. I agree, well said. n/t

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:22 PM

virginia mountainman (5,046 posts)

21. As a car owner, I understand why and agree with it. Can't we put the assumed victimhood...

of car ownership on simmer for even a week? Nine people were killed by a legally owned car. What are we going to do about that?????

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1727590/driver-crash-killed-nine-people-shenzhen-airport-panicked-after-hearing

Driver who killed nine people at Shenzhen airport 'panicked after hearing car horns'
Children and their grandparents are among the victims who were struck by a car on five-lane overpass as they watched aircraft at Shenzhen Baoan International Airport, police say.

----------------------------------------------------

If anyone has any idea to deal with the racist crazies in society, without turning us into a police state, I am all ears.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 04:34 PM

edbermac (15,652 posts)

22. Jury results.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Sat Jun 20, 2015, 08:22 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Caution fellow Pro2A DUers. The Hide forces are organized. Anything goes...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172169308

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Please hide this meta-bullshit

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jun 20, 2015, 08:28 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A bullshit alert swarm.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: meh
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't get it, is it some kind of code?

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 04:50 PM

edgineered (2,101 posts)

23. WOES Award!

look at that - Not one broken egg shell

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Response to edgineered (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:20 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

70. You should see my ballet routine. Uh, maybe not.

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:01 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

26. Well, what a coincidence!

Who'd a thunk that a post talking about abusive hiders would get juried for its subject matter by abusive hiders?

Somewhere, there is an entire shed of tools that need sharpening.

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Response to Shamash (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:05 PM

Jamastiene (38,174 posts)

28. But, the vote to NOT hide it was unanimous though. n/t

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:20 PM

Shamash (597 posts)

31. Exactly! n/t

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:22 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

33. and I rest my case on alert stalkers

7-0 someone got spanked! Wonder who it could be, hmmmmmmm

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:26 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

36. Oh look.

Someone can't alert for 24 hours, with no corresponding gain.

Awww. Whoever they were, they're sure to be feeling like a Delicate Flower, right about now.

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Response to beevul (Reply #36)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:08 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

42. I seem to remember another one a couple of weeks ago

On Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:57 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Ahh, the hypocrisy drips from your words. eom.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6792499

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Rude personal attack, intended to be hurtful, and unable to back it up either (see down-thread). We shouldn't stand for baseless accusations of hypocrisy. If you're going to call someone a hypocrite, be ready to back it up.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:14 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This has the be the same asshole who unsuccessfully alerted on the same DUer yesterday with almost the same comments "Rude personal attack, intended to be hurtful, not discussing the issue at hand. 1 more hide and they're back in timeout yet again, so please do hide". Take a powder shithead, you're abusing you alerting privileges.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Being right or wrong about hypocrisy on DU is not a violation of the TOS, nor is it a personal attack or inappropriately rude. *sigh*
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is a proportional response to obvious shit-stirring. EM jumped into the thread with a person attack, trolling for a reason to alert, I'd bet. GG shouldn't take the bait, but I'm inclined to let them argue it out in this mutual slap-fight.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

I happen to know who the alerter is but will not name him

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:26 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

44. I think admin should see that.

This was a blatant attempt, to manipulate the system toward silencing a specific individual poster, for something other than the content of the post.

I think admin should see that.

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Response to beevul (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:00 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

47. It is sleazy

and he does not have the fortitude to say it was him. Kind of like it would embarrass him as it should. Of course I asked him several times in the open and once by IM if it were him or to deny it and he would not answer that simple question. I take my hides and I truly believe some are legitimate but some are just so surprising, like the one where I apologized. There is a person that I think alerts on almost anything I post in a thread he is part of, hoping to get me a vacation or stoned. That just causes me to be even more polite and it just drives him nuts I am still around. I think he thought he got me when he stalked me with several hides and my account went to review. Guess what I am still here!

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:31 PM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

38. I'll bet that was the same...er..."fellow DU'er" that got a hide on me...

...for my (obviously) humorously-intended little poke at Hoyt and his infamous "can of beans" line.

Some people's pretensions of being "progressive" when their attitudes and actions are anything but are genuinely annoying, in the way that only pungent hypocrisy can be.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:38 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

41. I am quite sure I know who alerts on my posts

Sometimes you can tell in the alert body.

I like the personal insult directed at me the alerter included, lol

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #41)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 09:32 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

46. This is what I got sent when I was blocked for a mistaken post over there...

This is what I got sent by the forum host when I was blocked for a mistaken post over there, which I deleted and reposted here where I intended it:

You know why you were blocked, of course. You got what you wanted. nt

They're an understanding bunch, aren't they?

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Response to beevul (Reply #46)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:03 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

48. That was a first for me

a person blocked for a self deleted post. If that is not abusing the host powers, I do not know what is. How is that an SOP violation?

I am so glad he can post in this group and it is his favorite group as he can be challenged and show how he really is.

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Response to edbermac (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:44 PM

ileus (15,396 posts)

50. jumping jesus on a pogo stick...talk about thin skinned.

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Response to ileus (Reply #50)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:04 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

52. yep nt

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Response to ileus (Reply #50)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:45 AM

blueridge3210 (1,401 posts)

58. "Delicate Flowers". (nt)

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #58)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:50 AM

SecularMotion (7,981 posts)

59. Delicate Flowers

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #59)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:09 AM

blueridge3210 (1,401 posts)

60. Which group is afraid of debate?

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #60)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 12:34 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

62. That would be the ones

That require a safe haven and has a host that blocked a person for a self deleted post.

That's a first for me.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #62)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:10 PM

blueridge3210 (1,401 posts)

67. Yup.

Those delicate flowers.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #67)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:19 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

68. one comes over here

with his baseless accusations trying to stir the pot and and hoping to alert and get a hide

55. Someone who keeps on getting banned and re-registering just to talk about guns? Yep, that's a troll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=169424

Of course he made the accusation and now will not respond after being challenged, surprise. We can challenge in this group and not worry about being blocked unlike the other group that is so scared of debate.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:28 PM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

37. I think I know the thread (and poster) you're referring to.

Clearly, "fuck you" and several slanderous, insulting (and hilariously illogical) assertions about gun owners here at DU are hunky-dory. This shit gets excused because "emotions are running high" over the latest big story.

But I get hidden and called "cowardly" for a little good-natured poke at Hoyt, who I'm sure had no problem with my post.

This is why I tend to take long vacations from this formerly-wonderful site and do vastly more postin gon DI.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:34 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

40. Well I had an apology hidden

Try and figure that one out, lol

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:42 PM

ileus (15,396 posts)

49. Kinda normal from the 2A progressives aren't "real" democrats folks.

They normally get all worked up and let their emotions, prejudice, and seething hate get the best of them.

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Response to ileus (Reply #49)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 01:56 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

63. Sometimes I wonder if some of them think we are just real folks.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:10 PM

Purveyor (29,876 posts)

53. That is why I'm just trying to keep my mouth shut across the board and posting OP's. Safer that

way, from one who just got my record 'clean'...

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #53)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 01:58 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

64. I've increased my postage as well. Seems to work.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:19 PM

tularetom (23,664 posts)

54. I'll have to spend some time lurking over there

And see who is boasting about stirring things up here in this group.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:02 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

65. I exchanged mail with a moderate controller who has noticed the phenomenon as well...

He/she sees a connection to Bernie Sanders' positions on 2A. I don't know, but the heat between the Sanders and Hillary camps is intensifying.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #65)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 02:39 PM

tularetom (23,664 posts)

71. So if you are a Sanders supporter who also supports RKBA, you're in the crosshairs so to speak

I know that NYC_SKP did a stupid thing but I've always had the feeling that there were people just waiting for him to slip up.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 03:28 PM

HassleCat (6,409 posts)

76. If it's any comfort

One person just had a post hidden for calling names at gun owners. And posts get hidden for all sorts of reasons, on all sorts of issues, when people take offense at a particular word, or maybe nothing at all. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. (Can I say that?)

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #76)

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 04:40 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

80. Actually, you can say whatever you want!

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Response to Eleanors38 (Original post)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:50 PM

NaturalHigh (12,778 posts)

81. You noticed that too, eh?

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