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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:24 AM Feb 2016

Carrying concealed weapons could potentially add more violence to an endless cycle

The West Virginia Senate passed a bill that would let people carry concealed without a permit if they meet certain requirements. Although there are restrictions regarding the bill, this in no way would determine the safety of anyone. Roadblocks are being added to prevent citizens with substance abuse issues, mental health problems or those who have previously been charged of domestic or other violent crimes from obtaining guns, but again, this will not determine the safety of any citizen.

There was bipartisan support in the Senate, but it is evident that some Senators did not think the issue all the way through. It has been said the “only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” which in itself, is dangerous thinking. There is nothing that gives any sort of depth to these claims.

If anything, the presence of two people with guns, regardless of moral standing, could potentially cause more violence. If one person pulls a gun on another and multiple citizens with guns are also around, what’s to prevent these men or women from shooting each other, or even innocent bystanders?

West Virginia Senators need to take a seat and think about the safety of the public. Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin vetoed a similar bill in the past after listening to the safety concerns of law enforcement officials from the state.

http://marshallparthenon.com/8472/opinion/carrying-concealed-weapons-could-potentially-add-more-violence-to-an-endless-cycle/
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Carrying concealed weapons could potentially add more violence to an endless cycle (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
How long have we been hearing of this Controller fantasy? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #1
It won't; Every person in WV already carries...so I'd bet there will be no problem. ileus Feb 2016 #2
Ah, the old "there will be blood in the streets" argument. theatre goon Feb 2016 #3
"Add more violence?" Secmo, you have seen the data concerning lower crime rates. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #4
The OP tends to either elide inconvenient truths or reply with non-sequiturs friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #6
"or reply with non-sequiturs" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #7
No-permit carry is growing... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #5
But, but, but, then we won't know whose blood isn't running in the streets? DonP Feb 2016 #8

ileus

(15,396 posts)
2. It won't; Every person in WV already carries...so I'd bet there will be no problem.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:01 AM
Feb 2016

You'll find WV democrats are the most progressive in the country when it comes to the 2A.


Wonder if this writer even realizes this argument has always proven false everywhere it's tried.

 

theatre goon

(87 posts)
3. Ah, the old "there will be blood in the streets" argument.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:23 AM
Feb 2016

No matter how many times this has been asserted (and it's been quite a few times for quite a while now), it just never seems to come true, does it?

Oh well, maybe if they repeat it yet again...

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
6. The OP tends to either elide inconvenient truths or reply with non-sequiturs
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:54 PM - Edit history (1)

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
5. No-permit carry is growing...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

...so there should soon be more data to demonstrate whether or not this fear is justified. It hasn't been in the long-running case of Vermont...but Vermont is a demographic outlier. In Alaska, which has had this since 2003, there seems to be little effect in either direction for rates of homicide, assault, rape, etc. In Arizona, Arkansas, Kansas, Maine, and Wyoming, I think there will need to be more time needed to establish trending...permitless carry is a recent development in these states.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. But, but, but, then we won't know whose blood isn't running in the streets?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

With no permits and government approvals, we'll have no idea who isn't doing anything wrong and not shooting each other over parking spaces! Chaos!

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