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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:51 AM

Military judge allows total blackout of 9/11 plotters’ torture testimony

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Military judge allows total blackout of 9/11 plotters’ torture testimony
By Stephen C. Webster
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 14:43 EST

A military judge presiding over the trials of the accused 9/11 plotters decided last week that any and all testimony relating to their treatment by U.S. personnel shall be censored, according to a ruling released Wednesday.

In a statement sent to reporters, the American Civil Liberties Union made it clear that they are deeply troubled by the judge’s ruling.

“The government wanted to ensure that the American public would never hear the defendants’ accounts of illegal CIA torture, rendition and detention, and the military judge has gone along with that shameful plan,” ACLU attorney Hina Shamsi said in an advisory.

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“For now, the most important terrorism trial of our time will be organized around judicially approved censorship of the defendants’ own thoughts, experiences and memories of CIA torture,” Shamsi added. “The decision undermines the government’s claim that the military commission system is transparent and deals a grave blow to its legitimacy.”

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Reply Military judge allows total blackout of 9/11 plotters’ torture testimony (Original post)
unhappycamper Dec 2012 OP
blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #1
DarkBlue4Ever Dec 2012 #4
DCKit Dec 2012 #2
Solly Mack Dec 2012 #3
dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #5
RickFromMN Dec 2012 #6
leveymg Dec 2012 #7
Flatulo Dec 2012 #8
leveymg Dec 2012 #10
1Greensix Dec 2012 #9

Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:06 AM

1. Don't look back. Only Forward (c).

 

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:01 AM

4. thumbs down

I second that nomination.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:25 AM

2. Whoever he is, he's now topping the list of BFEE/NeoCon picks for the USSC. nt

 

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:54 AM

3. K&R

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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:16 AM

5. Rec'ing to get it some attention - nt

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:23 AM

6. President Obama will be blamed for this decision.

Did Obama have anything to do with this decision?

Can President Obama reverse this decision?

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:50 AM

7. We'll never be allowed to learn who these guys were really working with and the all important "why"

9/11 happened the way it did. The slate will be wiped clean.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:19 AM

8. Are you assuming their testimony would be 100% truthful?

 

I think it would be in their best interest to make America, and more specifically their captors, look as bad as possible in the eyes of the world.

Every time American ill-treatment of prisoners makes the news, Muslims riot and Americans get killed.

We know these guys were mistreated. Publicizing it for the umpteenth time serves no real purpose, in my opinion. The judges will hear their testimony.

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:20 AM

10. You're not likely to get much useful information if you don't ask the right questions.

But, sometimes facts slip through, anyway, that are nuggets of pure gold. This "trial" process is so tightly screened and controlled, blocking access to any subject matter that would compromise operational intelligence information, journalists and historians are not likely to get anything of value out of this.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:40 AM

9. We now torture prisoners?

If we now torture helpless prisoners and do not allow them to tell the public about it, how does that make us better than Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, or Mao's China? I am truly disappointed how this country seems to have thrown away its moral compass.

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