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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:53 PM May 2016

Hugh Freeze was 'shocked' by Laremy Tunsil's money admission

Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze said Thursday he was caught off-guard by the comments made by former offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil, who said during the opening night of the NFL draft that an Ole Miss coach had given him money.

“I know nothing,” Freeze said. “I’m not involved in the fact-finding process. I was shocked like everyone else (last Thursday night) living it out in real time but confident that our administration is going to find the facts and then give us a new report on it.”

Tunsil had a memorable (or forgettable) draft night after a hacker posted text messages between Tunsil and John Miller, Ole Miss assistant athletic director for football operations, talking about the exchange of money to help pay bills on Tunsil's Instagram.

Tunsil was asked about it shortly after he was drafted and said: “I made a mistake. That happened.”

When asked for clarity on whether he was talking about taking money from a coach Tunsil said, “I’d have to say yeah.”

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/hugh-freeze-said-he-was--shocked--by-laremy-tunsil-s-admission-174838707.html

I tell ya, the Dullphins sure know how to pick 'em!

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hughee99

(16,113 posts)
4. Lack of character is an issue for you, but only when it can be tied, even if only tangentially,
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

to the Patriots (or maybe the Red Sox). It must get hot in the summer in your glass house.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
6. I've been pretty honest about the Sox and Pats shortcommings.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

And haven't been a crusader about "low character" and "fair play" only when it comes to other teams. At worst, my house is translucent, not see through. I don't take issues with signing "low character" signing, but only for specific teams.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Murderers? Like ex-Dolphin Lawrence Phillips?
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

I'm not a big fan of blaming coaches for things their players did AFTER they've come and gone (like Mercury Morris getting a 20 year sentence for drug trafficking), but bringing in players that already have a history of low character is certainly an issue that the Patriots and all other teams are guilty of.

As I said in another thread, if Belichick was the only one bringing in players with an established history of things like beating their girlfriends, you might have a great case, but the Stubblefield argument just makes you look ridiculous. If Belichick had brought in, say, Brandon Marshall or Larry Johnson or Ndamakong Suh already knowing their long history of "low character", you'd have a better argument.

On the upside for Miami, Tunsil won't even be the lowest character on Miami's D-Line next year. I hear that Suh guy is as dirty as they come.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
9. I love the whole Hernandez thing---
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:06 AM
May 2016

murdering a guy right under Bill's nose. Hey Tom---your top Tight-End just murdered a guy.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. Anything to avoid talking about the dolphins, i guess.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

Hey, I must say I'm only mildly surprised to hear you love murder as long as it plays into your Patriot hating fetish.

You stay classy, Trumad, just like your Dolphins D-line.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
12. I didn't cheer for murder. At that point, you lost
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

Any hope of credibility on any issues related to cheating or "low character". I no longer have any interest in any opinion you have on the subject. You've clearly demonstrated your only interest in the issue is when it plays into your prejudices.

I've put out my opinion on every issue I've been asked about, patriots included, so don't give me that "refused to talk about" bullshit. Hell, your own Marlins had a guy bagged for 80 games and you still haven't felt compelled to voice any opinion on it yet. You chimed in to try to tie stubblefield to the patriots several times but didn't feel compelled to comment on an active player on your own team getting caught during the season in the last 10 days?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. I don't care what you think.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

Cheering for murder because you think it helps you make an argument told me all I need to know about the value of your opinions.

Here's a tip, if you find yourself cheering for murder and think you've won an argument, you don't understand what's going on.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. I didn't lose you. You lost all by yourself.
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

"I love the whole Hernandez thing--- murdering a guy right under Bill's nose. " -Trumad

That's YOU, cheering for murder. Post #9

Iggo

(47,487 posts)
13. That's a goddam heroic amount of weasel words there, Coach.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:49 AM
May 2016

“I know nothing.”

“I’m not involved in the fact-finding process."

"I was shocked like everyone else...but [I'm] confident that our administration is going to find the facts and then give us a new report on it.”

“I’ll be very quick to come out and defend us when it’s something that we know the facts on. I don’t at this present time."

“I know our administration is working, and I’m told they made a lot of progress, that they’re collecting everything so they know exactly what the facts are before we run out and make any type of response.”

"...there’s great wisdom in being patient and making sure you get the facts, and we’re still in that process."

"Our administration will continue to work with all the parties to reach a conclusion as soon as possible, which we’re hopeful that’s coming quickly.”

Phew!

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