Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:54 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
Clinton Rationale For private Server... "Convenience!" Yes, A Poor Decision Hillary, Perhaps...
just your second worse decision after... Voting to Invade Iraq!
The ONLY question that ANY citizen should ask before deciding to install a private email server in your home where as Secretary of State government communications and business will take place (in addition to your private email communication) is... Will I as Secretary of State EVER be receiving or having to send sensitive email communications i.e., TOP SECRET, CLASSIFIED or SAP/SAR? Hillary's judgement on this... NOPE! or No problem... "I'm opting for convenience..." or As Foreign Policy Guru that she purports herself to be... SHE NEVER thought... TO ASK HERSELF THE FRIGGING QUESTION... Before she decided on installing the server! Respected former Defense Secretary Robert Gates expressed concern over possible Hack by Russia, Iran or Chinese of Clinton's private server! http://theweek.com/speedreads/600728/did-russia-read-hillary-clintons-emails-robert-gates-says-odds-are-pretty-high Just as with her Iraq decision, Libya, Quaddafi and a host of others... Hillary NEVER paused to consider the larger consequences of her decision(s). And Hillary wants US to TRUST HER JUDGEMENT as President of the United States? Why Certainly... ![]() When America elects a President, the one characteristic above all others that we require is JUDGEMENT. http://www.npr.org/2016/01/29/464811045/as-iowa-caucuses-near-clinton-email-probe-persists Clinton's campaign responded that the new roadblock "appears to be over-classification run amok" and that it will "pursue all appropriate avenues to see that her emails are released in a manner consistent with her call last year." SNIP "It was a mistake because who wants to put people through all of this?" Clinton said. "I don't want to go through it; I don't want to put a lot of my friends through it. So it was a mistake." If in the end Hillary fails in her quest to be ... The First Woman President, she will have no one else to blame but herself.
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CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | OP |
Metric System | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
Logical | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
KittyWampus | Jan 2016 | #10 | |
Logical | Jan 2016 | #14 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #26 | |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
KittyWampus | Jan 2016 | #12 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #22 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #34 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
awake | Jan 2016 | #7 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #30 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #29 | |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
Metric System | Jan 2016 | #9 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #21 | |
HereSince1628 | Jan 2016 | #24 | |
KittyWampus | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
libdem4life | Jan 2016 | #27 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #35 | |
loyalsister | Jan 2016 | #28 | |
onecaliberal | Jan 2016 | #8 | |
MBS | Jan 2016 | #17 | |
TwilightGardener | Jan 2016 | #11 | |
Motown_Johnny | Jan 2016 | #13 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #18 | |
restorefreedom | Jan 2016 | #19 | |
jberryhill | Jan 2016 | #15 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #20 | |
MBS | Jan 2016 | #16 | |
msongs | Jan 2016 | #23 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #25 | |
jfern | Jan 2016 | #31 | |
Rosa Luxemburg | Jan 2016 | #32 | |
bobbobbins01 | Jan 2016 | #33 |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:56 AM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
1. Sanders supporters must be nervous.
Response to Metric System (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:58 AM
Logical (22,457 posts)
3. Shit yes we are nervous, we might have Hillary as president. So we should be nervous. nt
Response to Logical (Reply #3)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:01 AM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
10. What makes me nervous is Sanders can't control his own staffers and he's running for POTUS
not school board or even senator from a tiny, rural state.
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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #10)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:04 AM
Logical (22,457 posts)
14. Sanders is a liberal, hillary, not so much. nt
Response to KittyWampus (Reply #10)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:43 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
26. Total Nonsense From People WhoHave never Been In A Campaign Before and Complain
about diddlysquat!
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Response to Metric System (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:58 AM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
4. They are nervous she cannot win a general election.
And now the Epstein fiasco is back on the blogs.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1095757 |
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:02 AM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
12. Funny how Sanders supporters never stop to think how easily he'd be ripped to shreds
by the same Republican attack machine Hillary has stood up to for decades.
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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #12)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:18 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
22. BIGGGG CROSSOVER FOR Sanders, Repubs AND Indys... Reverse Is TRUE For Hillary...
In fact, Hillary has a huge cohort with deeply ingrained animosity toward her who WILL be motivated to come out merely to vote AGAINST her in a General Election. These are the facts which must not be ignored.
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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #4)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:35 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
34. More Shoes Dropping... Again Secretary of State That Does Not Get Classified Emails?
Response to Metric System (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:58 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
5. Not in the least... Energized WouldBe More Appropriate!
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Response to Metric System (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:00 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
7. All democratics should be nervous
Hillarys action could bring down the party
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Response to awake (Reply #7)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:27 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
30. More Poor Judgement Followed By A FLIP FLOP! ...
http://nypost.com/2016/01/26/hillary-clinton-un-admits-her-e-mail-error/
There she goes again. Hillary Clinton just withdrew her (partial) admission of error in her email mess. At Monday’s town-hall event, she dismissed the notion that setting up a private, non-secure email server — and then using it to store over 1,300 pages with classified material — was a mistake. “I’m not willing to say it was an error in judgment,” she told CNN’s Chris Cuomo. “Nothing I did was wrong.” Another Mis Judgement! |
Response to Metric System (Reply #1)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:21 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
29. Being President Is About Having Good JUDGEMENT! That Is The Most Important Qualification!
Hillary has a well demonstrated history over many years of her judgement being of poor quality leading to in some cases terrible decisions and consequences.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:56 AM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
2. It's ridiculous she has gotten away with it for this long....has a staffer even been questioned?
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:01 AM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
9. You should bring these concerns to a Right-Wing forum.
Response to Metric System (Reply #9)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:40 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
21. Points Made Here Are COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE!
That is where the Hillbots are out of touch... They ignore the TRUTH at OUR peril.
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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:34 PM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
24. Yes, and the guy that installed plead his right to silence under Amend. V n/t
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:00 AM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
6. Keep flogging that Republican horse. It only makes Sanders supporters appear desperate.
At least now you don't have to do BENGHAZI anymore.
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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #6)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:56 PM
libdem4life (13,877 posts)
27. I doubt anyone believes her. Just some choose not to care. I can understand that. I've voted many
an election for a candidate I was unenthused about and had to overlook certain aspects that did not appeal to me...this will be my first enthusiastic vote.
So, I think the flogging horses analogy just a bit, um, over the top. Do you also think the FBI and State Dept are flogging her? She doesn't wear Victim very well. |
Response to libdem4life (Reply #27)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:07 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
35. Not Caring About HillBill's Foibles Is Political Suicide!
Pitiful!
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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #6)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:18 PM
loyalsister (13,390 posts)
28. The only reason the Benghazi BS gained traction
is Hillary's long standing history of lying (Bosnia bullets, dead broke, etc) and controversies with enough truth to justify investigations (Whitewater).
Being married to a man who committed perjury (no it wasn't impeachment worthy) as POTUS, doesn't help much, either. She ants to claim credit for the 90s and deny association with Bill's arrogance and dishonesty, despite the Tammy Wynette enablement routine. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:00 AM
onecaliberal (28,815 posts)
8. Poor judgement demonstrated on so many levels.
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:02 AM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
11. It's so convenient to hire a personal IT guy to manage your emails outside of the system
you're SUPPOSED to use. I mean, isn't it convenient to have to do payroll and manage his schedule and do all the tax stuff that comes with hiring your own private staff?
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:03 AM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
13. Wasn't advocating the no fly zone in Syria her second worst ever?
Or maybe it was calling the TPP the gold standard of trade deals. Or claiming that single payer would never ever come to pass. Of course it could have been saying that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. So many choices. I can't pick one. |
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #13)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:11 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
18. OOOPss Forgot No Fly Zone...
Lighting the fuse to start WWIII would be a nice touch ... on top of everything else...... Hillary has problems? She ONLY needs to look herself in the mirror.
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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #13)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:15 AM
restorefreedom (12,655 posts)
19. and a 12 min wage....nt
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:05 AM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
15. What is your position on Snowden and Manning?
As dumb as the spectacle of seeing Hillary supporters oppose single payer, I'm fascinated by those who laud the efforts of Snowden and Manning to publish sensitive government communications, but who have suddenly become concerned over the potential vulnerability of a handful of emails.
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Response to jberryhill (Reply #15)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:18 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
20. Snowden Published Govt. Intrusion Into Our Lives... Emails To And From
Secretary of State concern CURRENT and Future policy that can involve war and peace. Snowden is a National Hero fopr his courage to expose the internal corruption in the most secretive agency of the US government. He did not release the information himself but instead left that task to journalists who are well respected and who would use discretion in their release. Snowden used reasonable judgement in taking precautions to ensure some level of security in his undertaking. Hillary just "opted for convenience... and states she ... MADE A MISTAKE!
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:08 AM
MBS (9,688 posts)
16. agree that her decision to use a private server
was a breathtakingly bad idea - quite apart from the squishy ethics in terms of potential conflict of interest (no not illegal, but, sorry, not an ethical model either, as all federal employees are instructed on the absolute importance of separating government interest from personal interest as much as humanly possible -- and an absolute no-brainer for a politically/diplomatically sensitive position such as Sec of State), it was a shockingly stupid idea in terms of political strategy (the appearance of conflict of interest being at least as dangerous for her politically as actual conflict of interest). Surely at least one advisor could have pointed out how her use of a private server would fit squarely into the Clinton-entitlement-questionable-integrity meme, and how it could be used against her in a future presidential election.
To my dying day, I will never understand how/why she elected to conduct her email business this way. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:30 PM
msongs (65,222 posts)
23. brought to you by the Republican National Committee nt
Response to msongs (Reply #23)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:12 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
25. NOT Even Close...
Merely Pointing out Da FACTS NOW... rather than later...
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:28 AM
jfern (5,204 posts)
31. The same as her rationale for denying 32 million Americans healthcare
No we can't is just more convenient for her
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:38 AM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
32. You would have thought she would have been more careful
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:01 AM
bobbobbins01 (1,681 posts)
33. Maintaining your own server is not convenient.
What a bullshit excuse. I set up a private email server instead of just taking the one given to me by the state department out of convenience! If hiring and outside firm to manage her email was just a matter of convenience, it would have been a billion times more convenient to just have someone sync up her email on her phone. I have about 10 different email addresses, some on my own email server, and some from gmail and places like that, managing them all is dirt simple, but if I ever have email trouble, its not with gmail, its with one I host myself, because a lot can go wrong.
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