2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA Revolution is Starting NOW
In the words of Robert Kennedy
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We've got your back, Senator Sanders. Let The Revolution Start NOW.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Guess what that's about? https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotMeUs?src=tren
Nanjeanne
(5,435 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Rockyj
(538 posts)Me thinks Bernie has started a true POLITICAL REVOLUTION!
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senz
(11,945 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)...and what they did to both Kennedys, to MLK, etc., etc...
In other words, they're not going to release the clutches of society from their necrotic, suffocating hands easily...
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...into a raging revolutionary inferno.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)been left alone. We are holding the flint - they can decide if they are the match. But this revolution in coming and there is nothing they can do about it.
senz
(11,945 posts)Would love to thank him in person someday.
ablamj
(333 posts)Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
35th president of US 1961-1963 (1917 - 1963)
LiberalArkie
(16,422 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
~Bobby Kennedy
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Incidentally, that quote comes from a speech about South Africa.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I had it underlined, carried it around to show to people, when I worked on his
campaign. The SDS people loved it, and many were swayed by it to support
him. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1976848.To_Seek_a_Newer_World
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Now if only the various corners of the internet where his quotes are published can spell his name correctly!
democrank
(11,250 posts)No matter how much they threaten you for it, or hate you for it, or laugh at you for it. Just stand up....proudly....and be counted. It`s we, the people, not we, the oligarchs.
paleotn
(19,123 posts)Vanderbilt University, Nashville, 1968. I was 5 years old.
dpatbrown
(368 posts)two weeks before he was killed in L.A. I was a college student then, and I loved the man. I've been waiting all this time for someone like him. Oh, and by the way, Sanders is much more progressive than Bobby was, but like Sanders, he was REAL.
Great quote.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)he was cozy with Joe McCarthy and as Attorney General, he was instrumental in the nomination of racist judges and urged civil rights activists to stand down - and, as we know, no one can ever evolve and grow . . .
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)or take an active role. If you choose to take part, leave your guns in the safe and bring your brains instead.
tecelote
(5,141 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,161 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)It still fits but I wonder if he had this in mind?
senz
(11,945 posts)among young people, college students, the counterculture. Bobby was probably well aware of it, and he might have phrased it that way to deflect from ideas of violent revolution that were floating around.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)things peaceful. It is amazing that his words fit so well today.
senz
(11,945 posts)is that the "revolution" never happened. Things got worse, instead. Maybe they wouldn't have, if Bobby Kennedy had lived and won the election.
Which is another reason why I worry about Bernie.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He gave this speech in Peru to a group of students there - and pretty much everything he said would come to pass in South America, did.
senz
(11,945 posts)Appreciate it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Taking these quotes out of their full context distorts their true meaning.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)which. He was basically talking about land ownership just as today we talk about wealth inequality. I think at the time in Mexico 14% of the people owned all of the land.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Karma13612
(4,671 posts)scottie55
(1,400 posts)Can't leave work.
azmom
(5,208 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)The sentiments are spot on, but I like the current rephrasing:
Bernie Sanders: Because Fuck this Shit.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)All of us together, Sander's yours and mine. THAT's a revolution!
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)from high-up windows, laughing and smirking at the rabble below. Might have been some of Hill's friends.
Thanks for the song; haven't heard it for a long time.
senz
(11,945 posts)Very vivid, real. Stays with me.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)uponit7771
(91,665 posts)Nanjeanne
(5,435 posts)We are still going to get the Revolution started anyway.
uponit7771
(91,665 posts)... it seeing the revolution is going to avoid certain tenants of the left.
bottom line, either its a revolution were everything is on the table or its not and other groups have to miss out on the revolution in part
Nanjeanne
(5,435 posts)uponit7771
(91,665 posts)... all is good.
That's not fair at all
Reparations should be part of the revolution whole in this case
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's about encouraging Central and South American countries to move away from a subsistence farming model.
He was not talking about a revolution in the United States.
bigtree
(90,076 posts)...in support of the Sanders campaign.
My question would be, why wouldn't the Sanders camp's aspirations and expectations be for a 'peaceful revolution' in our democracy?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It is frustrating.
People who really want to understand what this quote is about ought to read the full speech.
Nanjeanne
(5,435 posts)We aren't allowed to take the sentiment and apply is to our lives now?
Wow. I love quotes from many many people that inspire me in my life. I didn't realize we had to only use them in the exact same context as the person who said it.
I've liked this quote from Harry Potter: It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends. Now I know I can only use it in Hogwarts.
How silly.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He was certainly not talking about a revolution in the United States.
Nanjeanne
(5,435 posts)The quote is inspiring for what I see in it. Sort of like looking at a painting and it evoking a feeling. But to each it's own.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I've had this argument a lot about literature as well - where someone will say that a book means something to them while the author will say that is not at all what they meant to communicate. Is the author's intention even relevant? It's an interesting conversation.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)But they are going to Feel The Bern!!
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Excellent thread.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Go Bernie!
Uncle Joe
(60,074 posts)Thanks for the thread, Nanjeanne.