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A Revolution is Starting NOW (Original Post) Nanjeanne Jan 2016 OP
#NotMeUs is trending #1 on Twitter right now pinebox Jan 2016 #1
Love it. nt Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #2
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #6
Thank You For Sharing These Truths cantbeserious Jan 2016 #24
Me thinks Bernie has started a true POLITICAL REVOLUTION! Rockyj Jan 2016 #26
I love that. senz Jan 2016 #27
Of course, we've seen repeatedly how the other side deals with "peaceful revolutionaries..." villager Jan 2016 #3
If that happens to Bernie, he will be this revolution's martyr and it will set this current spark... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #7
Totally agree. I think that is why President Obama has also jwirr Jan 2016 #14
Just realized how much I would miss him if it did happen. senz Jan 2016 #28
Exactly ablamj Jan 2016 #65
Thank you.. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #4
Love it! Here's another Bobby quote that feels so very relevant in 2016 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5
Bobbly Kennedy? oberliner Jan 2016 #41
It's also a quote from the book that he wrote, right before his campaign. "To Seek a Newer World". 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #49
Very cool oberliner Jan 2016 #60
This standing up business is the key. democrank Jan 2016 #8
I saw RFK once.... paleotn Jan 2016 #9
I saw him speak in Sacramento, dpatbrown Jan 2016 #19
But if he were running now, he'd be smeared on DU as a corporatist tool because in the 1950s Empowerer Jan 2016 #46
Sit back and watch Plucketeer Jan 2016 #10
This revolution will be televised. tecelote Jan 2016 #11
KnR SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #12
prophetic Hiraeth Jan 2016 #13
Thank you. I wonder what he was talking about back then? jwirr Jan 2016 #15
In the late 60s there was much talk of revolution senz Jan 2016 #29
I suppose, like today most of us back then were trying to keep jwirr Jan 2016 #38
Yes. What's sad about that senz Jan 2016 #40
+1 jwirr Jan 2016 #50
The revolution he was talking about did happen oberliner Jan 2016 #54
Ah, thanks. Context makes a big difference. senz Jan 2016 #59
He was talking about land reform in Latin America oberliner Jan 2016 #42
I remember reading that in one of his books - can't remember jwirr Jan 2016 #51
Universal truths can't be taken out of context . . . they're universal truths. Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #52
This campaign is starting to look pretty darn good. +10 Karma13612 Jan 2016 #16
I Only Wish I Could Go To Iowa And Help Out Bernie scottie55 Jan 2016 #17
Viva la revolucion azmom Jan 2016 #18
Those liberal elites and all their high tone words... kristopher Jan 2016 #20
No. This time we have EACH OTHERS backs. JimDandy Jan 2016 #21
Kick Iggy Knorr Jan 2016 #22
OK Kokonoe Jan 2016 #23
Steve Earle, Occupy Wall Street, and the Majority Report echo that message today NOW! cascadiance Jan 2016 #25
In news coverage of OWS, they showed Wall Streeters watching senz Jan 2016 #30
I had a dream about him the night after he died. senz Jan 2016 #31
We'll do that right after Hillary gets out of our way. Gregorian Jan 2016 #32
Except in the category of reparations, this "revolution" needs to have asterisks uponit7771 Jan 2016 #33
Well in that case he stands with Obama and Clinton - but Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #34
Neither of them are claiming revolution and the revolution should start with an asterisks by uponit7771 Jan 2016 #35
So you define Revolution as being for reparations. OK. Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #36
No, just that certain groups revolutions shouldn't be left out of the whole and then claim uponit7771 Jan 2016 #37
That quote is from a speech about land reform in Latin America oberliner Jan 2016 #39
that's a point which is really lost in the repeated posting of those quotes bigtree Jan 2016 #43
Yes, indeed oberliner Jan 2016 #55
So we can only use this if we talk about moving away from a subsistence farming model? Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #45
The context is helpful in understand what he was communicating oberliner Jan 2016 #53
Not to me Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #56
That's a good point oberliner Jan 2016 #57
That's what we keep hearing . . . Empowerer Jan 2016 #44
K&R liberal_at_heart Jan 2016 #47
They aren't going to know what hit them... AzDar Jan 2016 #48
K&R avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #58
Yes! SoapBox Jan 2016 #61
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #62
Aren't the Kennedys a little too "establishment" for their quotes to apply to Bernie? eom tarheelsunc Jan 2016 #63
Well isn't that silly? nt Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #64

Rockyj

(538 posts)
26. Me thinks Bernie has started a true POLITICAL REVOLUTION!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:59 AM
Jan 2016

Me thinks Bernie has started a true POLITICAL REVOLUTION!

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villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Of course, we've seen repeatedly how the other side deals with "peaceful revolutionaries..."
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jan 2016

...and what they did to both Kennedys, to MLK, etc., etc...

In other words, they're not going to release the clutches of society from their necrotic, suffocating hands easily...

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
7. If that happens to Bernie, he will be this revolution's martyr and it will set this current spark...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jan 2016

...into a raging revolutionary inferno.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. Totally agree. I think that is why President Obama has also
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

been left alone. We are holding the flint - they can decide if they are the match. But this revolution in coming and there is nothing they can do about it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. Just realized how much I would miss him if it did happen.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jan 2016

Would love to thank him in person someday.

ablamj

(333 posts)
65. Exactly
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
35th president of US 1961-1963 (1917 - 1963)

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. Love it! Here's another Bobby quote that feels so very relevant in 2016
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

"“Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.”"
~Bobby Kennedy
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
49. It's also a quote from the book that he wrote, right before his campaign. "To Seek a Newer World".
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

I had it underlined, carried it around to show to people, when I worked on his
campaign. The SDS people loved it, and many were swayed by it to support
him. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1976848.To_Seek_a_Newer_World

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
60. Very cool
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

Now if only the various corners of the internet where his quotes are published can spell his name correctly!

democrank

(11,250 posts)
8. This standing up business is the key.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

No matter how much they threaten you for it, or hate you for it, or laugh at you for it. Just stand up....proudly....and be counted. It`s we, the people, not we, the oligarchs.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
19. I saw him speak in Sacramento,
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jan 2016

two weeks before he was killed in L.A. I was a college student then, and I loved the man. I've been waiting all this time for someone like him. Oh, and by the way, Sanders is much more progressive than Bobby was, but like Sanders, he was REAL.

Great quote.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
46. But if he were running now, he'd be smeared on DU as a corporatist tool because in the 1950s
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

he was cozy with Joe McCarthy and as Attorney General, he was instrumental in the nomination of racist judges and urged civil rights activists to stand down - and, as we know, no one can ever evolve and grow . . .

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
10. Sit back and watch
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

or take an active role. If you choose to take part, leave your guns in the safe and bring your brains instead.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. Thank you. I wonder what he was talking about back then?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

It still fits but I wonder if he had this in mind?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
29. In the late 60s there was much talk of revolution
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jan 2016

among young people, college students, the counterculture. Bobby was probably well aware of it, and he might have phrased it that way to deflect from ideas of violent revolution that were floating around.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
38. I suppose, like today most of us back then were trying to keep
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jan 2016

things peaceful. It is amazing that his words fit so well today.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
40. Yes. What's sad about that
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jan 2016

is that the "revolution" never happened. Things got worse, instead. Maybe they wouldn't have, if Bobby Kennedy had lived and won the election.

Which is another reason why I worry about Bernie.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
54. The revolution he was talking about did happen
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jan 2016

He gave this speech in Peru to a group of students there - and pretty much everything he said would come to pass in South America, did.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. He was talking about land reform in Latin America
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jan 2016

Taking these quotes out of their full context distorts their true meaning.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
51. I remember reading that in one of his books - can't remember
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jan 2016

which. He was basically talking about land ownership just as today we talk about wealth inequality. I think at the time in Mexico 14% of the people owned all of the land.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
20. Those liberal elites and all their high tone words...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

The sentiments are spot on, but I like the current rephrasing:

Bernie Sanders: Because Fuck this Shit.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
21. No. This time we have EACH OTHERS backs.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

All of us together, Sander's yours and mine. THAT's a revolution!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
30. In news coverage of OWS, they showed Wall Streeters watching
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jan 2016

from high-up windows, laughing and smirking at the rabble below. Might have been some of Hill's friends.

Thanks for the song; haven't heard it for a long time.

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
34. Well in that case he stands with Obama and Clinton - but
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

We are still going to get the Revolution started anyway.

uponit7771

(91,665 posts)
35. Neither of them are claiming revolution and the revolution should start with an asterisks by
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jan 2016

... it seeing the revolution is going to avoid certain tenants of the left.

bottom line, either its a revolution were everything is on the table or its not and other groups have to miss out on the revolution in part

uponit7771

(91,665 posts)
37. No, just that certain groups revolutions shouldn't be left out of the whole and then claim
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jan 2016

... all is good.

That's not fair at all

Reparations should be part of the revolution whole in this case

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. That quote is from a speech about land reform in Latin America
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

It's about encouraging Central and South American countries to move away from a subsistence farming model.

He was not talking about a revolution in the United States.

bigtree

(90,076 posts)
43. that's a point which is really lost in the repeated posting of those quotes
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

...in support of the Sanders campaign.

My question would be, why wouldn't the Sanders camp's aspirations and expectations be for a 'peaceful revolution' in our democracy?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
55. Yes, indeed
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jan 2016

It is frustrating.

People who really want to understand what this quote is about ought to read the full speech.

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
45. So we can only use this if we talk about moving away from a subsistence farming model?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

We aren't allowed to take the sentiment and apply is to our lives now?

Wow. I love quotes from many many people that inspire me in my life. I didn't realize we had to only use them in the exact same context as the person who said it.

I've liked this quote from Harry Potter: “It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends.” Now I know I can only use it in Hogwarts.


How silly.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
53. The context is helpful in understand what he was communicating
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

He was certainly not talking about a revolution in the United States.

Nanjeanne

(5,435 posts)
56. Not to me
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

The quote is inspiring for what I see in it. Sort of like looking at a painting and it evoking a feeling. But to each it's own.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
57. That's a good point
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

I've had this argument a lot about literature as well - where someone will say that a book means something to them while the author will say that is not at all what they meant to communicate. Is the author's intention even relevant? It's an interesting conversation.

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