Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:54 AM
Le Taz Hot (22,271 posts)
I have one word for those who are saying a Bernie nomination is impossible:
California.
That is all.
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31 replies, 2554 views
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Le Taz Hot | Feb 2016 | OP |
LexVegas | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
NV Whino | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
LexVegas | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
amborin | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
artislife | Feb 2016 | #25 | |
Lizzie Poppet | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
superkona | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
NikolaC | Feb 2016 | #27 | |
jfern | Feb 2016 | #31 | |
onecaliberal | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
Post removed | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
PonyUp | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
Le Taz Hot | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
tazkcmo | Feb 2016 | #28 | |
PonyUp | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
demmiblue | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
Agschmid | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
Lizzie Poppet | Feb 2016 | #17 | |
krawhitham | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
Le Taz Hot | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
krawhitham | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
Le Taz Hot | Feb 2016 | #24 | |
cascadiance | Feb 2016 | #20 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Feb 2016 | #29 | |
tk2kewl | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
kath | Feb 2016 | #19 | |
PonyUp | Feb 2016 | #21 | |
pdsimdars | Feb 2016 | #23 | |
Codeine | Feb 2016 | #22 | |
dinkytron | Feb 2016 | #26 | |
Cleita | Feb 2016 | #30 |
Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:55 AM
LexVegas (5,456 posts)
1. The electorate is too diverse for Bernie to win there. Sorry. nt
Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:57 AM
NV Whino (20,886 posts)
2. And that may be the very reason Bernie can win California.
Response to NV Whino (Reply #2)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:58 AM
LexVegas (5,456 posts)
3. We'll see how he does in diverse states today and on Tuesday. nt
Response to LexVegas (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:00 PM
amborin (16,631 posts)
4. Bernie will win California, hands down!
Response to LexVegas (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
artislife (9,497 posts)
25. Republican states? nt
Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:18 PM
Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)
16. I sincerely doubt that.
I don't think the same tactics that have worked for Hillary to garner black votes in deep-red Southern states (that she'll never win in November) are going to work in California. The Latino vote is completely up for grabs.
Hillary still holds a lead in California, but that lead has been shrinking dramatically for many weeks. California is entirely in play. |
Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
superkona (21 posts)
18. Oh really
We will know shortly. As a native, California is Hard Core Bernieland. I bet my bones on it.
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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:12 PM
NikolaC (1,276 posts)
27. This is purely anecdotal but
I live in Silicon Valley and go to Monterrey on the weekends sometimes and all that I have seen have been Bernie bumper stickers (with 1 or 2 exceptions). There were Bernie supporters along the road in Monterrey a couple of weeks who were getting honks, cheers and waves from people passing by. Also, when I drive through Mountain View in the morning I always see what I call the "Bernie-mobile" which is a white SUV with the Bernie logo all over it. I've even seen a couple of Bernie yard signs. I've seen maybe 2 Hillary2016 bumper stickers and a couple of Trump ones as well. Again, this is all purely anecdotal but, judging by what I have seen so far in my neck of the woods, I would say that there is a good bit of Bernie love here.
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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:23 AM
jfern (5,204 posts)
31. Bernie won Nevada Hispanics, he can win California Hispanics
Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:02 PM
onecaliberal (30,613 posts)
5. Precisely!
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:06 PM
PonyUp (1,680 posts)
7. Two words for you: No Class.
Response to Post removed (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:07 PM
Le Taz Hot (22,271 posts)
8. Thank you, VP Cheney.
I'm in a red part of the state and I've seen one bumper sticker for Hillary here. One. Dozens for Bernie. We're going to deliver this state to Bernie. Count on it.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:32 PM
tazkcmo (7,148 posts)
28. Now that's low!
And well deserved! KnR!
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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 PM
PonyUp (1,680 posts)
9. I don't alert, but if I did, you would be it. nt
Response to Post removed (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:10 PM
demmiblue (36,198 posts)
11. Nasty. n/t
Response to Post removed (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:13 PM
Agschmid (28,749 posts)
13. I voted to hide this.
Response to Agschmid (Reply #13)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:19 PM
Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)
17. Good for you.
I like vigorous debate, but posts that are nothing but vulgar sniping contribute nothing to the discussion and are best hidden.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 PM
krawhitham (4,580 posts)
10. Last poll has Hillary up by 11 in California
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-california-democratic-presidential-primary
plus
Lets assume he beats her by 20 points, not going to happen but lets assume He gets 285 she gets 190 Then there are 72 Super delegates I do not see California as a game changer |
Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:12 PM
Le Taz Hot (22,271 posts)
12. And she was up by 30+% in Iowa at one time too.
June is 3 months away. The momentum is with him here, DEFINITELY NOT with her. Her only supporters are blind party loyalists and The Democratic Party Machine but that's true in all states. It all has to do with turnout.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #12)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:17 PM
krawhitham (4,580 posts)
15. I understand that, but he will not win by 20
And even if he does it is not that much of a game changer
The Dems need to have winner take all states after the 1st few rounds (like after super Tuesday) and do away with super delegates |
Response to krawhitham (Reply #15)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:55 PM
Le Taz Hot (22,271 posts)
24. I never suggested he would win by 20 points.
But, to date, there have been exactly ONE primary and two highly-suspect caucuses so, if you don't mind, it would be nice to wait until the other 47 states had a chance to vote before you throw in the towel. Are you sure you're a Bernie supporter?
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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:25 PM
cascadiance (19,537 posts)
20. And many of those superdelegates will just love voter retribution voting them OUT later!
For voting against the popular vote with their UNdemocratic vote "gifts"!
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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
29. WAIT, the gaps started with a lot more
that said, if CA plays a role, I will eat my shoe, We are late in the calendar and it has nada to do with the parties... I think we are leading in that sense, and parties should not be anywhere close to actually running the elections or determining calendars.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:14 PM
tk2kewl (18,133 posts)
14. Yeah. Anything can happen in California
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:23 PM
kath (10,565 posts)
19. Here is the transcript of that video of Keith's Special Comment, for those who would rather read
Response to tk2kewl (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:33 PM
pdsimdars (6,007 posts)
23. WOW
Man, could Kieth ever let it rip. I miss that.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:29 PM
Codeine (25,586 posts)
22. It would have to be an almighty trouncing to make up the gap.
I could see him pulling out a squeaker here, but not a blowout. Recall that Hillary beat Obama here in 2008, and she's been endorsed by both of out senators.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:03 PM
dinkytron (568 posts)
26. I have two two words for them.
Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:20 AM
Cleita (75,480 posts)