2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUSA Today: "Why Bernie Sanders could win Oklahoma"
link; excerpt:OKLAHOMA CITY Oklahoma isnt where you might normally expect to find Sen. Bernie Sanders spending his time.
Its one of the reddest states in the nation and a leader in hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which Sanders calls a disaster for the planet.... On Tuesday, Oklahoma can play a very important role in moving this country forward to a political revolution. Lets do it, he told a crowd of more than 6,000.
It seems hard to believe that Oklahoma would even be close on the eve of the primary, but it would be nice for Sanders to get a "bonus" win tomorrow in the South. I'm more curious about Colorado, but I wouldn't say no to Oklahoma.

Faux pas
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OKNancy
(41,832 posts)This probably wouldn't have been the case except for the stupid Democratic party in our state.
They decided to let Independents vote in our primary for the first time this year.
The reasoning was to draw in more people to the party... yeah right.
Most Independents here are right wingers in actual fact.
Voting for Sanders is mostly just to fuck with the Democrats.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Republicans have a closed primary. Independents can't vote in the Republican primary.
Republicans - Republican only
Democrats - Democrats and Independents
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)we like it, it actually increases somewhat the turnout.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I suppose they can read tea leaves.
Next they should follow CA, get a motor voter bill that registers everybody at the DMV and modified run off at state level. Those are the kinds of reforms needed nagionside.
I would also hope to expand the franchise to felons and people in prison like oh OECD economies do, After all they are counted for census data.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)It's sounding VERY promising!
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)How time flies
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)a Jewish civil rights activist.
Apparently that rationale is fungible.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)It is red though!
maybe they think it was a confederate territory
Marr
(20,317 posts)
panader0
(25,816 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Given his anti-frabking stance, and Clinton's 'frack the world' policy, Oklahoma might be more willing to give Sanders a look than you might otherwise expect in a conservative state.
Svafa
(594 posts)rightfully unnerved by the massive increase in the number of earthquakes they've been having. They're seeing the immediate negative effects of fracking.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)He might get one or two more than she does. LOL!
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Pissing it away in the wrong places.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And that isn't going to get the job done.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Uncle Joe
(61,462 posts)(snip)
Sanders didnt speak about fracking at Sundays rally, but in a fundraising email Friday, he specifically highlighted Oklahomas rash of earthquakes that many believe are linked to wastewater from fracking being injected into underground wells along fault lines. The Oklahoma Corporation Commission has told oil and gas companies to reduce wastewater in underground wells to curb the problem.
Sanders has launched a new television ad in Minnesota and Colorado about his stance against fracking. The campaign is using other ads in Oklahoma, where strategists believe he still needs to be introduced to voters, but they think the fracking issue will have a powerful impact here, as well.
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At the Oklahoma City rally, Dillon Turner, 29, said Sanders position on the need for campaign finance reform is most important to him because I think our democracy is in danger.
But Turner, a marketing specialist at a company with ties to the oil and gas industry, also supports Sanders stance on fracking. He thinks Sanders would place a higher priority on addressing climate change than Clinton, who he said was slow to oppose the Keystone XL pipeline.
Its a huge problem and we need to move on it quickly, he said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/oklahoma-primary-bernie-sanders-super-tuesday/81088324/
Thanks for the thread, Attorney in Texas.
Uncle Joe
(61,462 posts)Beginning in 2009, the frequency of earthquakes in the U.S. State of Oklahoma rapidly increased from an average of less than two 3.0+ Mw earthquakes per year to hundreds in 2014 and 2015. Thousands of earthquakes have occurred in Oklahoma and surrounding areas in southern Kansas and North Texas since 2009.[6] Scientific studies attribute the rise in earthquakes to the disposal of salt water produced during oil extraction that has been injected more deeply into the ground.[7][8]
One of the most significant earthquakes of this swarm was a 5.6 magnitude earthquake east of the Oklahoma City area which was the strongest earthquake in the history of Oklahoma.[9] Multiple seismologists advised local residents of an even greater risk of earthquakes in 2014 when the number of earthquakes increased to a dangerously high level. In response to the major increase in earthquakes in the Central United States, the United States Geological Survey began developing a new seismic hazard model to account for risk associated with induced seismicity. To date, no fewer than six individual earthquake sequences in Oklahoma have been identified and named by the Oklahoma Geological Survey.[10] Other swarms have been observed in south-central Kansas and North Texas.
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Cause
Researchers have correlated the increase in earthquakes in central and north-central Oklahoma to injection disposal of produced water from two actively drilled stratigraphic intervals: the Mississippi Lime play, in north-central Oklahoma and extending into Kansas, which uses hydraulic fracturing; and the Hunton dewatering play, in central Oklahoma, which does not use hydraulic fracturing.[42] Both Mississippi Lime and Hunton plays produce large volumes of produced water; frac flowback makes up less than 5 percent of the injected wastewater. [43] More than 70 percent of the produced water from both plays is disposed through permitted Class II injection wells into the Arbuckle Group where it rests on Precambrian basement. The increase in pore pressure can release pre-existing stresses along faults in the basement rock.[44]
Between 2011 and 2014, the percentage of earthquakes spatiotemporally associated with injection wells has increased sharply by 87%.[45] A study of historic earthquakes has concluded that "much of the earthquake activity in the 1950s and 19801990s was induced" by injection of wastewater in deep disposal wells and the cluster of activity since 2009 is not consistent with the natural rate of fluctuations seen in the past.[46]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9316_Oklahoma_earthquake_swarms
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Going by bumper stickers/lawn signs, Bernie is 2-1.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)one yesterday.
I'm wondering if it was stolen and discarded or stolen and put up in someone else's yard.
Zero Hillary signs.
Buzz cook
(2,703 posts)The article doesn't make an argument as to why or how Sanders could win Oklahoma. It basically covers Sanders time there, his anti fracking statements, contrasts with Clinton on the issue, and fracking's importance in Oklahoma.