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Huh, MO just flipped for Hillary with 99% in (MSNBC calls "Apparent Winner" for Hillary) (Original Post) Dem2 Mar 2016 OP
Oh fuck no!!! TDale313 Mar 2016 #1
The last votes to report are usually urban. Codeine Mar 2016 #8
That's good news. Thank you! Zira Mar 2016 #24
Isn't that just amazing. Hmm.... Skwmom Mar 2016 #2
Not really. Just the way the votes rolled in. onenote Mar 2016 #16
A big chunk of the black vote was outstanding. Codeine Mar 2016 #21
Cue the Karl Rove villain music . . . NBachers Mar 2016 #22
This I know. We have a BIG problem with our voting system. It is easy to hack and manipulate. Skwmom Mar 2016 #50
Yep RandySF Mar 2016 #3
"St. Louis County just came in" brooklynite Mar 2016 #4
I'm making myself an Old Fashioned...for the SWEEP!!! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #14
We could say that Hillary swept Bernie into the dustbin of History! riversedge Mar 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Mar 2016 #52
Hillary up 1199 votes Dem2 Mar 2016 #5
St. Louis! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6
5 for 5 CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #7
Devestating Renew Deal Mar 2016 #11
He's in Arizona Paulie Mar 2016 #17
That was wrong. His speech should have been shown. Maru Kitteh Mar 2016 #18
I agree. Last Tuesday, the msm did not air either Hillary's nor Bernie's speeches riversedge Mar 2016 #53
He assured his voters that this was expected and Hillary is out of states forcasted for her now. Zira Mar 2016 #26
No jcgoldie Mar 2016 #29
wtf? dana_b Mar 2016 #9
It was probably time for bed 4 hours ago CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #15
It's supposed to get better after tonight. Tonight was expected and now we should be out of Zira Mar 2016 #27
Significant vote left in 2 Hillary counties. Renew Deal Mar 2016 #10
That would be very exciting! Agschmid Mar 2016 #12
This is like a dream./nt DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #13
The odds went from 1% to 15% to 99% for Hillary winning MO Dem2 Mar 2016 #19
Got to get your bets in early... brooklynite Mar 2016 #20
SHUTOUT ericson00 Mar 2016 #23
How sweep it is!! (eom) StevieM Mar 2016 #25
It's still coming in but it looks like she way under preformed from what was expected. Zira Mar 2016 #28
Uh huh, fascinating. grossproffit Mar 2016 #30
Uh huh... SidDithers Mar 2016 #31
No. There's this thing called political analysis. Zira Mar 2016 #32
No, that is not what analysis shows for tonight Godhumor Mar 2016 #36
? By morning you'll start seeing the polls and the forecasts before and after. Zira Mar 2016 #41
She won all five; 30+ point blowout in Florida, double digit win in 2 others and you're saying that Number23 Mar 2016 #49
Didn't Sander say that he'd win Ohio? lunamagica Mar 2016 #47
Sounds like he got that one wrong. Zira Mar 2016 #54
It doesn't seem possible, even under the best of circumstances, that Sanders can finish the race StevieM Mar 2016 #33
We shall see. Zira Mar 2016 #34
Yes we will. And welcome to DU!! (eom) StevieM Mar 2016 #40
Thank you! Zira Mar 2016 #43
The entire West Coast still has to vote. We shall see what happens. We are in it til the liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #35
From huffington post: Zira Mar 2016 #39
I am hoping that once we have a presumptive nominee the other candidate will give them their support StevieM Mar 2016 #42
haters? I think the haters are the Gop and Tea Party. Zira Mar 2016 #44
Agreed. Haters was a bad choice of words. StevieM Mar 2016 #46
You think Bernie will win NY? n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #37
I'm reading other people's opinions. I am not a political analyst. Zira Mar 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Godhumor Mar 2016 #45
A clean sweep?! More than I'd hoped for! VERY HAPPY NOW! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #51
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. The last votes to report are usually urban.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

That isn't exactly Bernie's wheelhouse.

Doesn't matter -- its's going to be as even a delegate split as you've ever seen.

onenote

(42,383 posts)
16. Not really. Just the way the votes rolled in.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:44 AM
Mar 2016

It's basically a tie in terms of delegates and would be whether Bernie held onto his slim lead or Clinton ekes out a victory.

Unfortunately, as a Bernie supporter (but one not prone to fantasy-land views of the primaries), a wash on delegates is a win for the candidate with the lead in delegates -- one less state where Bernie can make up the difference.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
21. A big chunk of the black vote was outstanding.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

Which way did you THINK that vote was going to break?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
50. This I know. We have a BIG problem with our voting system. It is easy to hack and manipulate.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:41 AM
Mar 2016

For such a wealthy nation, you would think we would have developed almost an iron clad system by now. But then again, I don't think that is the objective.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
4. "St. Louis County just came in"
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

Remaining votes are in Kansas City (Clinton leading 53-46)

That calls for another glass of wine.

Response to riversedge (Reply #48)

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
5. Hillary up 1199 votes
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

This wasn't expected. Wow.

Kornacki just said only precinct out is a Hillary precinct.

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
18. That was wrong. His speech should have been shown.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:49 AM
Mar 2016

I guess he should have perhaps delayed or picked a different time but still . . . It was wrong of the networks not to show it. I was waiting for his speech too. Not to gloat but because I LIKE listening to what he has to say, because I LIKE him.

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
53. I agree. Last Tuesday, the msm did not air either Hillary's nor Bernie's speeches
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

but did the very long one for Trump--and aired the Democrats much later.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
26. He assured his voters that this was expected and Hillary is out of states forcasted for her now.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

After tonight he expects to start making up the delegate counts.

While she won, she also preformed far worse than expected.

It's being looked at as a positive for the Bernie campaign - out of the woods of the red states and states that were strong Hillary now.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
27. It's supposed to get better after tonight. Tonight was expected and now we should be out of
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:03 AM
Mar 2016

the pro Hillary states. She preformed far worse than expected and her campaign will notice just like Bernies did.

That means she is not a shoe in at all. I believe I saw something that said when it's over she'll be up 288 delgates on him total and he will now start collecting delegates.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
19. The odds went from 1% to 15% to 99% for Hillary winning MO
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:50 AM
Mar 2016

in a half an hour while I was watching the CNN vote totals. Bizarre.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
28. It's still coming in but it looks like she way under preformed from what was expected.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:05 AM
Mar 2016

I think her supporters are celebrating and she's very worried now. She's out of states that were expected to go to her. From here the fight begins. I read that she lost a lot of ground and Bernie gained it tonight. So as he goes though this race, his base is growing and her's is shrinking. It is by far not over yet.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
32. No. There's this thing called political analysis.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

Both campaigns are following the analysis closely. It's part of *political science*

I've been getting the news letters and hearing the forecasts for a few months. This was expected.
And the election is playing out not as expected because Bernie didn't expect to pick up so many supporters at this point and Hillary didn't expect to lose so many. Her base is slowly dwindling. Many of these elections tonight were too close and they weren't supposed to be close at all.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
36. No, that is not what analysis shows for tonight
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:17 AM
Mar 2016

If was an extremely good night for Hillary by every possible metric.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
41. ? By morning you'll start seeing the polls and the forecasts before and after.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:24 AM
Mar 2016

It was not supposed to be this close in most of those states. I saw most of them were supposed to be Hillary at 10% or higher over Bernie.
I doubt she will be able to sleep tonight. The writing is getting very clear on the wall.

These are just little battles in a war that is constantly getting polled and forecasted across the board.

Celebrate tonight.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
49. She won all five; 30+ point blowout in Florida, double digit win in 2 others and you're saying that
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 04:04 AM
Mar 2016

those were all "close?" And the ones that were close were ones she wasn't supposed to win at all. And you calling those "close?"

Yeah. Okay. Right.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
33. It doesn't seem possible, even under the best of circumstances, that Sanders can finish the race
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

with more pledged delegates or more popular votes than her.

Right now she has a bigger PD lead than Obama ever had over her in 2008.

I think she can expect to do well in Arizona, New York, Pennsylvania and Maryland. Those states are coming up in March and April. Arizona is in one week on March 22.

I keep hearing that Latinos are moving towards Sanders, but I haven't actually seen it happen.

Clinton also won most of the states towards the end of the 2008 race, but by then it was too late.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
39. From huffington post:
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

"Though Hillary Clinton swept Super Tuesday II, Bernie Sanders virtually tied her in both Illinois and Missouri, salvaging delegates in every state: 64 in Illinois, 60 in Florida, 38 in Ohio, 35 in Missouri and 26 in North Carolina. In total, Sanders will finish Super Tuesday II with over 250 pledged delegates. The Senator is down, but neither morally nor mathematically out.
"

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
42. I am hoping that once we have a presumptive nominee the other candidate will give them their support
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:29 AM
Mar 2016

And I would say the same exact thing if Hillary was trailing Bernie.

Imagine how furious the Hillary-haters would have been in 2008 if she had stayed in until the Convention.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
44. haters? I think the haters are the Gop and Tea Party.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:36 AM
Mar 2016

Everyone else should understand if she wins the primaries she will be needed.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
46. Agreed. Haters was a bad choice of words.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:07 AM
Mar 2016

But there is a lot of vitriol being spewed in Hillary's direction.

Still, you are right. The Republicans are the haters. We're the good guys, whether we support Clinton or Sanders.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
38. I'm reading other people's opinions. I am not a political analyst.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

I can't forecast any state.

Response to Zira (Reply #38)

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