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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:54 PM Mar 2016

Hail Mary pass: hoping the superdelegates that you have been dissing all season will switch sides

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-longshot-victory-superdelegates-220847


Bernie Sanders is falling further and further behind in pledged delegates — but even after Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday romp, his campaign says there’s a longshot strategy that lets him regain momentum and win the Democratic nomination by relying on superdelegates even if he comes into the Philadelphia convention still trailing Clinton.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-longshot-victory-superdelegates-220847#ixzz436bIxbgy
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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Since the pool of available delegates is shrinking, Sanders needs to pick them up somewhere to make
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

his math work.



Pretty much shows where the math is.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. So how will this change the argument that Superdelegates are undemocratic and should be abolished?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

I think it will work like it did in 2008. Superdelegates will go with whoever gets the most votes, no matter who they sided with during the primary.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
9. sure that's a good discussion to have for the next election cycle
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

but you can't change rules in the middle of the race.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
10. I know you can't change it, but there have been a lot of posts about undemocratic superdelegates
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

Now that Sanders is pivoting to chase Superdelegates, will people stay true to their argument or suffer whiplash from the change in direction.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. I'm all for Sanders to keep going until the last Primary votes are counted… BUT
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

I would far, far prefer him to be the guy who keeps rallying younger voters and get them to the polls for Democrats not just in November, but for midterms and to start RUNNING FOR LOCAL OFFICES.

It's a shame he decides to stay an Independent.

Why not become a Democrat and start organizing young, left-leaning young adults into the Democratic party?

Why not start getting them to run for local offices?

That's really how you implement changes.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. Yeah, I mean, why oh why can't he
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

Give up on progressive values and support endless wars, corruption of the rule of law, Big Banking, Big Pharma, Big Prison, endless wars, Monsanto's fusarium-contaminated grains and crops, and all the rest of it?

I mean, Americans do not really need or want to be safe in their homes or on the streets.

We Americans really could care less if six year old kids are being shackled and sent off to juvenile halls, for infractions that would have only gotten them a trip to the principals a generation ago. Nor do we mind having to ingest pharmaceutical products simply to allow our bodies to digest the Monsanto and other big Ag firms destruction of our food corps for their bottom line.

<sarcasm alert for those who don't know me>

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
6. Hillary Clinton is also encased by many many scandals.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

There is more to this particular race between her and Sanders than superdelegates.

What happened to the Saudi-connection emails on her and her buddy's server? Why was it necessary to hide those emails?

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
12. I believe the initial point about the super delegates was that
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

Their votes aren't counted until the convention, and traditionally they vote with either the majority or the way their state does.

They have NEVER been "committed" to a candidate publicly months in advance of a convention to make that candidate a guaranteed winner, especially if that candidate is under criminal investigation by the FBI (who aren't being run by the Republicans).

Committed super delegates as early as they were was pretty obviously "payment for services rendered" as opposed to "what is actually best for the country".

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