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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:13 PM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

 

So the Hillary group smears combat veteran Tulsi Gabbard?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by mcar (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

To do this to ANY VETERAN who has served, especially in wars of mistake voted on by your candidate, is absolutely despicable!

You do not serve Hillary in any way, with bullshit like this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110781855

You see, maybe Tulsi is trying to explain the difference in the culture of media and what is happening on the ground, and to our service members?

This is horrible, and it's strange what Hillary attracts. And as cowards do, they post the most offensive stuff, behind the protective wall of the "Hillary group". So, I'll just make a post all in itself, to apologize to every veteran that is smeared, when you smear a veteran in this way. Vets are not to be used as a political football EVER.

This must be said to every veteran, thank you for serving.

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Reply So the Hillary group smears combat veteran Tulsi Gabbard? (Original post)
 ViseGrip Mar 2016 OP
LineReply that's not smearing a veteran
 bigtree Mar 2016 #1
LineLineReply + 1
 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #6
LineLineReply Unlike Hillary, who only supported the murder of tens of thousands of Iraqi Muslims...
 Human101948 Mar 2016 #8
LineReply Being a veteran does not exclude one's political views from examination and criticism.
 Maedhros Mar 2016 #2
LineLineReply I couldn't agree more.
 BlueState Mar 2016 #11
LineReply She's an evil Bernie supporter, she's no Democrat
 NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #3
LineReply The article in the link is from a left-wing website, so take it up with Alternet.
 Metric System Mar 2016 #4
LineReply She's a politician. Fair game for commentary, veteran or
 COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #5
LineReply So every single veteran is noble true and never makes mistakes?
 Sheepshank Mar 2016 #7
LineReply John McCain was a war hero.
 Codeine Mar 2016 #9
LineReply If she was supporting Hillary, I am sure Bernie people would be attacking her
 oberliner Mar 2016 #10
LineLineReply Idle speculation at best.
 NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #18
LineLineLineNew Reply The way Paul Rieckhoff was treated here for pointing out Sanders' SVAC record
 NuclearDem Mar 2016 #24
LineLineLineNew Reply Indeed
 oberliner Mar 2016 #27
LineReply They have called her a homophobe, islamophobe, and creepy cult member.
 Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #12
LineLineReply Or they will call her out for what she is. Jesus, why is that idea so hard for you to grasp?
 randome Mar 2016 #16
LineLineLineNew Reply Well it's not really true. Why is that idea so hard for you to grasp?
 Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #22
LineLineLineNew Reply Bill Clinton seems to hate Obama...
 blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #28
LineReply telling the truth about her background and documented political positions is not smearing.
 Jitter65 Mar 2016 #13
LineReply Clinton is notorious for using cheap campaign tactics to attack her opponent's supporters.
 AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #14
LineLineReply I agree.
 Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #20
LineReply Not just the Hillary Group, also General Discussion
 PADemD Mar 2016 #15
LineReply Being a veteran is honorable, but it isn't a free pass for expressing extremist views
 Tarc Mar 2016 #17
LineLineNew Reply Hawaii!!
 blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #29
LineReply Um, I support Bernie but its true that Tulsi Gabbard is an Islamophobe and frequent Fox News favorit
 phleshdef Mar 2016 #19
LineReply I detest Hillary Clinton but don't have a problem with that article
 BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #21
LineNew Reply Team Shillary takes the Democratic Party from the "Big Tent"
 TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #23
LineNew Reply Some of her rhetoric is concerning. I would be less concerned if I had a clear answer on
 JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #25
LineNew Reply I saw her with Bill Maher a few weeks ago and she seemed overly hawkish
 Renew Deal Mar 2016 #26
LineLineNew Reply I'm pretty sure all of the "overly hawkish" dems are for Mrs Clinton
 Doctor_J Mar 2016 #30
LineLineLineNew Reply Apparently not
 Renew Deal Mar 2016 #31

Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:17 PM

Star Member bigtree (84,439 posts)

1. that's not smearing a veteran

...it's calling out an Islamaphobe.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:21 PM

JoePhilly (27,787 posts)

6. + 1

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:22 PM

Star Member Human101948 (3,457 posts)

8. Unlike Hillary, who only supported the murder of tens of thousands of Iraqi Muslims...

 

when the USA does it, it's okay.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:18 PM

Maedhros (10,007 posts)

2. Being a veteran does not exclude one's political views from examination and criticism.

 

I am also put off to some degree by Gabbard's rhetoric.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:28 PM

BlueState (640 posts)

11. I couldn't agree more.

The statements in that article, whether or not you agree with the author's opinion are valid criticism.

This is in no way a smear. I commend Ms. Gabbard's service. I find some of her views troubling.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:18 PM

NorthCarolina (11,197 posts)

3. She's an evil Bernie supporter, she's no Democrat

 

What Democrat would support ANY healthcare system like Bernie's that completely writes out the most important aspect of medical care>>>PROFIT!!!

What Democrat would FORCE ME TO PAY for Donald Trumps kids to go to College just so that all of America's youth have the same opportunity? Ludicrous.

Well, that's what I would say if I were a Hillary supporter anyway...but I'm not.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:19 PM

Metric System (6,048 posts)

4. The article in the link is from a left-wing website, so take it up with Alternet.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:20 PM

Star Member COLGATE4 (14,732 posts)

5. She's a politician. Fair game for commentary, veteran or

not. Being a vet does not exempt her from the same scrutiny any politician should expect to receive, especially one who has such curious ties with a radically anti-muslim group.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:21 PM

Sheepshank (12,504 posts)

7. So every single veteran is noble true and never makes mistakes?

 

perhaps linking to the same article in GD and looking at the responses would open your eyes a little:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027713841

trying to make something of nothing only makes you seem desperate

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:23 PM

Star Member Codeine (25,586 posts)

9. John McCain was a war hero.

 

Bush 41 was a war hero.

We subjected them to plenty of criticism. Nobody is off-limits by dint of having worn a uniform.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:24 PM

oberliner (58,724 posts)

10. If she was supporting Hillary, I am sure Bernie people would be attacking her

 

That's the way things go around here.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:42 PM

NorthCarolina (11,197 posts)

18. Idle speculation at best.

 

Guess we'll never truly know.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:02 PM

NuclearDem (16,184 posts)

24. The way Paul Rieckhoff was treated here for pointing out Sanders' SVAC record

 

pretty much says all one needs to know about that.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:18 PM

oberliner (58,724 posts)

27. Indeed

 

Idle speculation is what DU is all about!

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:29 PM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

12. They have called her a homophobe, islamophobe, and creepy cult member.

 

Some Hillary campaigners on the internet will viciously attack and destroy in a very personal way anyone who doesn't fall in line behind their imperialist agenda.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:37 PM

randome (34,845 posts)

16. Or they will call her out for what she is. Jesus, why is that idea so hard for you to grasp?

 

She hates Obama, too, so I guess that makes her your 'hero', right?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:51 PM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

22. Well it's not really true. Why is that idea so hard for you to grasp?

 

You guys are just practicing the politics of personal destruction.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:26 PM

blueintelligentsia (507 posts)

28. Bill Clinton seems to hate Obama...

 

...doesn't make him my hero.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:31 PM

Jitter65 (3,089 posts)

13. telling the truth about her background and documented political positions is not smearing.

 

No more smearing than posting about Hillary's or Bernie's documented political positions.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:32 PM

AtomicKitten (46,585 posts)

14. Clinton is notorious for using cheap campaign tactics to attack her opponent's supporters.

 

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:46 PM

Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)

20. I agree.

That was one of the biggest reasons I didn't support her back in 2008, early on.
I waited to see how Obama would deal with veterans before I voted for him.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:34 PM

PADemD (4,482 posts)

15. Not just the Hillary Group, also General Discussion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027713841

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:42 PM

Tarc (10,441 posts)

17. Being a veteran is honorable, but it isn't a free pass for expressing extremist views

Gabbard is too closely tied to India's far-right BJP, and even voted against a House resolution because the language included;

Calls for religious freedom and related human rights to be included in the United States-India Strategic Dialogue and for such issues to be raised directly with federal and state Indian government officials.


because the BJP is very much opposed to Muslims.

Why on earth Sanders would want such a person in his camp is baffling.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:33 PM

blueintelligentsia (507 posts)

29. Hawaii!!

 

Though if she truly is islamophobic, that should be made aware.

Especially since a majority of Muslims in Michigan (possibly in other states) voted for him (59% to 39%).

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/muslim-american-voters-bernie-sanders-irpt/

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:45 PM

phleshdef (11,936 posts)

19. Um, I support Bernie but its true that Tulsi Gabbard is an Islamophobe and frequent Fox News favorit

 

Alan West served. He is still a piece of shit.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:51 PM

BernieforPres2016 (3,017 posts)

21. I detest Hillary Clinton but don't have a problem with that article

I don't see it as a smear on Tulsi Gabbard. It is an opinion piece by somebody that clearly disagrees with her views. Being a veteran doesn't mean Gabbard's views are off limits for discussion. Gabbard decided to become a politician and she is not shy about stating her views, so how is she being used as a "political football"?

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:54 PM

TheSarcastinator (854 posts)

23. Team Shillary takes the Democratic Party from the "Big Tent"

to "there's plenty of room under the bus."

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:04 PM

JonLeibowitz (6,282 posts)

25. Some of her rhetoric is concerning. I would be less concerned if I had a clear answer on

the question of Palestine. That would clear up a lot. If she's with Bernie on the issue, it makes her better than a lot of the Democratic party.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:06 PM

Star Member Renew Deal (81,388 posts)

26. I saw her with Bill Maher a few weeks ago and she seemed overly hawkish

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:41 PM

Doctor_J (36,392 posts)

30. I'm pretty sure all of the "overly hawkish" dems are for Mrs Clinton

 

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Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:43 PM

Star Member Renew Deal (81,388 posts)

31. Apparently not

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