Hello from California!

[whatchamacallit]

Congratulations to Hillary and supporters on her recent wins! We know you're eager to move things forward for your candidate, but kindly chill the fuck out and let us vote.

[oldandhappy]

1. AMEN!!!!!!!!

[Cheese Sandwich]

2. rec

[underthematrix]

3. I'm from California and I'm voting for HRC.

There has been a lot of nastiness toward Clinton on this site and I in no way feel hampered by it. I'm still gonna vote for HRC. I love the fact people are VOTING!. I hope we can get people to do the same thing in 2018 in even greater numbers. VOTING is our voice and we shouldn't squander it no matter who you vote for.

[whatchamacallit]

4. Glad you agree

maybe you could tell fellow HRC supporters.

[underthematrix]

23. Are they stopping you from voting?

People have a right to speak their truth even when we disagree. But it shouldn't stop you from voting.

[whatchamacallit]

29. They are demanding my candidate drop out before the primary

rendering my vote pointless.

[underthematrix]

40. I'm sorry. You are basing your decision to VOTE

in the primary based on what somebodies are saying?

[whatchamacallit]

43. If you read the OP

I'm just saying chill out and let it happen.

[anotherproletariat]

35. My entire extended family is from the Bay Area and

All are Hillary voters...at least 30 of us at last count. (Even the millennials!)

[hack89]

5. Who says you can't vote?

just don't think it will change things that much. That is the unfortunate aspect of voting so late in the process.

[whatchamacallit]

7. Um... all the people shouting for Bernie to drop out?

[hack89]

8. Bernie will still be on the ballot. You can still vote for him. nt

[Orsino]

15. That is one gracious concession. n/t

[hack89]

19. It is a simple statement of fact.

there are many reasons why California voters should vote besides the presidential primary. The unfortunate thing with being the second to the last state to vote is that sometimes it will have no impact on who wins and who loses.

[Orsino]

21. It was not really that simple, was it? n/t

[hack89]

25. Yes it is in the black and white reality of elections.

ultimately one winner and a bunch of losers.

[Orsino]

34. Clinton was not a loser in '08.

She won a hell of a lot, and in doing won a Cabinet seat.

The convention is about so much more than a magic number of delegates.

[hack89]

37. And she won that by accepting reality and not impeding Obama

Bernie needs to do the same. I have no problem with him campaigning if he sticks to the issues, attacks Trump and does not mention Clinton. If he plans to disrupt the convention then he is toast and wins nothing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. We also have a senate race

[hack89]

38. Excellent reason to vote. nt

[whatchamacallit]

16. So fucking disingenuous

I want my vote to count for something. If my candidate unnecessarily acquiesces to demands to drop out before the California primary, my vote is a meaningless token. But thanks for your magnanimity.

[hack89]

24. What does it count for if it doesn't impact who wins and who loses?

unfortunately as a consequence of California voting so late your vote, like it or not, will be irrelevant to the outcome.

[whatchamacallit]

26. Well

"tough shit, disenfranchisement is built into the system" doesn't really cut it for us.

[hack89]

31. How is it disenfranchisement?

not every election season is a horse race to the very last state. This one is over before California gets to vote. It is not disenfranchisement by any sense of the word.

[whatchamacallit]

41. Because of the drawn out nature of the primary schedule, California is often inconsequential

As I said, 'built in'.

[underthematrix]

28. Bernie is not dropping out. He's still on the DEMOCRATIC primary ballot.

I'm more concerned about the down ticket races. I want a DEM House and Senate because it is Congress' job to make and fund law. And we know the crazy the Republicans want to do with law.

[Nictuku]

17. Maybe he should folllow Hillary's Lead?

[hack89]

27. Hillary was a lot closer.

she actually had a much better chance.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. All states should vote

I'm especially eager to see Senator Sanders lose California, so that his supporters can see he is really not the preferred candidate of the party.

No excuses. Let everyone vote.

[MineralMan]

9. Who could prevent you from voting?

The California primary will be held, and both names will be on your ballot. You can, and should, vote for the one you prefer. Nobody has suggested that any future primaries be cancelled. Nobody.

[whatchamacallit]

18. this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511849291#post16

[MineralMan]

22. If you don't go and vote because Sanders dropped out,

that's on you. Why would you not vote in your state's primary? That makes no sense at all.

Now, some might skip a primary if their choice was no longer running, but there's no reason to do that. Both candidates will appear on all of the remaining ballots. Go and vote. Do it for yourself.

My point is that nobody is cancelling any primaries. It's your choice whether to vote or not, not anyone else's choice. You decide.

[whatchamacallit]

32. If my candidate is no longer in the race

why should I vote in the primary?

[MineralMan]

36. For the same reason you would otherwise - to send a message.

Sanders will probably not do something like "suspend" his campaign. He's no longer realistically in the race, but he still has a platform. Vote to demonstrate your support for that platform. Or don't. I can't decide for you, and have no desire to try. Do as you think best.

[zappaman]

10. Enough of this June shit.

It's ridiculous that CA gets to be pretty much dead last when it comes to the primaries.

[Adrahil]

11. Vote on! But the reality is it's over. NT

[Uncle Joe]

12. It's so undemocratic when people promote that tens of millions of Americans

shouldn't be allowed to vote.

This is especially true coming from our so called "fourth estate," aka; "guardians" or "watchdogs" of democracy.


Thanks for the thread, whatchamacallit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Live in the SFV and voting for HRC

[qdouble]

14. I haven't seen any posts calling for them to cancel the election

[Blue_Adept]

20. While I don't believe that we should do all primaries on the same day

or just a couple of primary days overall, I do believe we need to tighten up the time period overall. Six months may have made sense decades ago between the first and last, but it's too drawn out and really reduces the final primary's influence.

[bkkyosemite]

30. Right on! And US Too in Oregon!

[lagomorph777]

45. Oh you left-coasters, all uppity and everything.

Whaddya think this is, a democracy?

[Maru Kitteh]

39. If California Democrats are dissatisfied with their primaries' timing they should advocate

with their state's Democratic party to move their primary up the calendar. Beyond that, I don't know if this is your first election, but that's how the dang cookie crumbles sometimes. Literally nobody is telling you that you can't vote, even if your candidate were to drop out. His name will still be on the ballot.

Go cast your vote. Whether he has remained technically in the race or not will matter little because it will still come down to you casting a vote to advocate for his inclusion in the platform. That's a good thing and you should feel good about it. So vote!

[PufPuf23]

42. Here is a web site to check your California voters registration status and other info.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/registration-status/

Also info on how to register or change status.

[jaceaf]

44. In, Cali voting for Hillary as soon as I can!

We rarely count in elections but I live in the OC now so I have a responsibility to turn this county blue! Can't wait to get my mail in ballot. This year we are getting a sticker too!