Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:21 PM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

Just asking.....

Is the Independent base now bigger than the democrats and the republicans?

The model is old we are using, and it makes the numbers meaningless for a general.

I keep hearing dems say the indy's don't matter. Such ignorance.

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Just asking..... (Original post)	ViseGrip	Apr 2016	OP
The ignorant Dems are giving the ignorant Repubs a run for their money.	Broward	Apr 2016	#1
yes	larkrake	Apr 2016	#2
Yes, 43% identify as independents. 29% identify as Dems	riderinthestorm	Apr 2016	#3
Pollster: Party ID (Current)-D: 36.5 I: 30.6 R: 28.1	Stallion	Apr 2016	#4
I tend to dismiss the opinion of pundits and pollsters as being too much self defense	tech3149	Apr 2016	#6
It is ignorance to think that any left leaning indie would vote for Trump.	leftofcool	Apr 2016	#5
but, Stein or a write in would be a different story.	Hiraeth	Apr 2016	#7
I think many left indies	PowerToThePeople	Apr 2016	#8

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:23 PM

Broward (1,976 posts)

1. The ignorant Dems are giving the ignorant Repubs a run for their money.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:23 PM

larkrake (1,674 posts)

2. yes

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:24 PM

riderinthestorm (23,272 posts)

3. Yes, 43% identify as independents. 29% identify as Dems

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180440/new-record-political-independents.aspx

January 2015 survey

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:25 PM

Stallion (6,458 posts)

4. Pollster: Party ID (Current)-D: 36.5 I: 30.6 R: 28.1

in every General Elections the trend is for Independents to trend back to the Party they lean to. Democrats are at about their highest point since the months after Obama's inaguration

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:45 PM

tech3149 (4,452 posts)

6. I tend to dismiss the opinion of pundits and pollsters as being too much self defense

I would say that we are dealing with numerous black swan events since and including the financial crash. They have shown that their perception and understanding of events is not as comprehensive or accurate as they believe.
Perhaps if those signifigant opinion makers had to trade places with the person cleaning their office, or the pollsters weighted theirdat by who they had access to, things might look a bit different.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:36 PM

leftofcool (19,460 posts)

5. It is ignorance to think that any left leaning indie would vote for Trump.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:49 PM

Hiraeth (4,805 posts)

7. but, Stein or a write in would be a different story.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:52 PM

PowerToThePeople (9,610 posts)

8. I think many left indies

came into the Democratic fold burring the Bush years.

We had HOPEd that Obama would put us on the path to better CHANGE.

With the current front runner, many of us see that left momentum being reversed.

The end result?

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