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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:17 PM May 2016

Latest Polls & Averages: Bernie OUT-Performs Hillary Against Trump in GE Matchup


General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)

Trump (R)
Spread
RCP Average 4/11 - 5/1 -- -- 52.2 38.8 Sanders +13.4
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 56 40 Sanders +16
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 50 38 Sanders +12
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 52 37 Sanders +15
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 50 40 Sanders +10
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 53 39 Sanders +14

All General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Polling Data



Poll Date Sample MoE
Clinton (D) Trump (R)
Spread
RCP Average 4/11 - 5/1 -- -- 47.3 40.8 Clinton +6.5
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13
Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/28 1000 LV 3.0 39 41 Trump +2
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 47 40 Clinton +7
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 50 39 Clinton +11
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 46 43 Clinton +3
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 48 41 Clinton +7


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
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Latest Polls & Averages: Bernie OUT-Performs Hillary Against Trump in GE Matchup (Original Post) amborin May 2016 OP
Good thing Clinton also beats Trump since she will be the nominee. nt hack89 May 2016 #1
HRC's polling tends to start high and then deteriorate...... amborin May 2016 #3
True perhaps but completely irrelevent hack89 May 2016 #4
she will not have enough delegates; it will be a contested convention amborin May 2016 #7
The super delegates will not ignore the voters hack89 May 2016 #9
They did in WA State. floriduck May 2016 #27
The SDs will vote for the candidate with the most pledged delegates hack89 May 2016 #28
Not according to Howard Dean. He said he's voting for Clinton, even if Bernie wins. floriduck May 2016 #29
Bernie had no chance to win hack89 May 2016 #31
You're not in favor of Oregon or California and others to have their say? So sad. floriduck May 2016 #32
I am very much in favor of them voting hack89 May 2016 #34
You don't understand what a contested convention is. woolldog May 2016 #11
[i]"Can Clinton Make Good on Her Opportunity?"[/i] Hortensis May 2016 #6
so it's as we thought: all about political expediency, not about core values or what's good for regu amborin May 2016 #8
I bet the Pope outpolls both of them Stuckinthebush May 2016 #10
Vitally important that Sanders is the next President CountAllVotes May 2016 #2
That door has been shut hack89 May 2016 #5
Actually, Bernie does, and it will be a contested convention amborin May 2016 #14
So he is going to get more pledged delegates? hack89 May 2016 #15
They have no answer for your question. . . . blank, empty space pdsimdars May 2016 #45
How cares CajunBlazer May 2016 #12
Not so, polls at this stage are indeed indicators; this was addressed in a amborin May 2016 #21
Who says Bernie won't be the Dem nominee? Are you privy to an advance decision? amborin May 2016 #23
Simple Way To Remember: How Much Is 7% Safety Net Worth? davidlynch May 2016 #13
7% is a lot. B Calm May 2016 #16
And yet that did not translate into primary votes. Recursion May 2016 #17
He'll still be campaigning come November. grossproffit May 2016 #19
I assume he will. Keep in mind we still don't know either party's nominee (nt) Recursion May 2016 #20
Not that big of a deal pdsimdars May 2016 #46
Poll finds Romney would beat Obama if election were today grossproffit May 2016 #18
People should not become complacent, the GOP has a way to coalesce as it nears the General Election. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #22
Sometimes the people are wrong. bigwillq May 2016 #24
Clinton OUT-Performs Sanders in the Democratic primary. seabeyond May 2016 #25
Hillary outperforms Sanders in the Democratic Primary only because of the unfair help with Cal33 May 2016 #36
Ahhh, unfair, being picked on. Yada yada yada. Hillary outperforms Sanders seabeyond May 2016 #38
Yes, "being picked on" by people like DWS. Correct? Cal33 May 2016 #39
Hillary has been attacked by the Right for yrs. Bernie has faced zero attacks. Numbers reflect that. Metric System May 2016 #26
Start a new thread. Your input is irrelevant to this topic. floriduck May 2016 #33
My input is very relevant to why he polls slightly better. Metric System May 2016 #40
This is about every super delegate in WA going against the wishes of the people. floriduck May 2016 #41
Nina Turner better change her support then. Lead by example if you want to change the rules after Metric System May 2016 #42
Is Nina Turner every single super delegate from her state? floriduck May 2016 #43
Come on, when are their comments ever relevant? All they do is deflect with zero content. pdsimdars May 2016 #47
So do unicorns realmirage May 2016 #30
Yea, this looks like tremendous enthusiasm pdsimdars May 2016 #48
rec Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #35
"La-la-la-la" - Debbie can't hear you! eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #37
Every day in every way! pdsimdars May 2016 #44
Imaginary matchup polls are poor predictors of reality Tarc May 2016 #49
He always has, and the margin keeps getting wider. senz May 2016 #50
Sanders is not out performing against Hillary, a definite fact. Thinkingabout May 2016 #51
This is so no surprising. nt silvershadow May 2016 #52

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. True perhaps but completely irrelevent
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

because, like it or not, the voters are going to make her the nominee. Not much you can do to change that.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. The super delegates will not ignore the voters
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:39 PM
May 2016

They will vote for the candidate with the most pledged delegates. It will be a first vote victory for Hillary.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
29. Not according to Howard Dean. He said he's voting for Clinton, even if Bernie wins.
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

Now that's the end of the story.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
34. I am very much in favor of them voting
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

That doesn't mean that their votes will change the outcome.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
11. You don't understand what a contested convention is.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

She will have enough delegates (pledged + super) to win on the first ballot. That's not a contested convention.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. [i]"Can Clinton Make Good on Her Opportunity?"[/i]
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016
Given her general election opponent, she has a historic opportunity to unite a grand, cross-party coalition.

The Republicans have made their choice. Now the Democrats’ likely nominee faces a dilemma of her own: Run as a centrist and try to pile up a huge majority—at risk of enraging Sanders voters? Or continue the left turn she’s executed through these primaries, preserve Democratic party unity—at the risk of pushing Trump-averse Republicans back to The Donald as the lesser evil?

The imminent Trump nomination threatens to rip the Republican party into three parts. Trump repels both the most conservative Republicans and the most moderate: both socially conservative regular church attenders and pro-Kasich affluent suburbanites, especially women. The most conservative Republicans won’t ever vote for Hillary Clinton of course. But they might be induced to stay home—if Clinton does not scare them into rallying to Trump. The most moderate Republicans might well cast a cross party line vote—if Clinton can convince them that she’s the more responsible steward and manager.

Those have to be exciting possibilities for the Clinton campaign. For a generation, national politics has been polarized into two unified blocs with minimal cross-over. The Trump nomination suddenly makes imaginable an election like 1964 or 1972, in which a divisive nomination by one party propels millions of voters across the aisle to the other. But the way to win a 1964 or 1972-like victory is to move to the center, to position the winning candidate as the safe choice. Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon ran as candidates of peace and order, against destabilizing radicals.
...

Hillary Clinton, amazingly, will actually take longer to clinch her nomination than Trump needed to secure his. Her party may be less divided than the Republican party: 80 percent of Democrats say they can support either Clinton or Sanders. But that unity was gained because Clinton executed a sharp left turn—and a left turn sharpest precisely on the issues where Republicans and Democrats most intensely disagree: guns and immigration. If Clinton tries to edge back to the center on those issues in the summer and fall, will she reignite the rebellious mood that elevated Bernie Sanders through the winter and spring?
...

How much room is there in her party to seek a middle path now? Does she even want to walk that middle path? Don’t forget that even as she dissented from Obama’s foreign policy on the right, as First Lady she was often said to have criticized her husband’s domestic policy from the left.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/whats-her-play/481290/

amborin

(16,631 posts)
8. so it's as we thought: all about political expediency, not about core values or what's good for regu
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

regular Americans

Stuckinthebush

(10,816 posts)
10. I bet the Pope outpolls both of them
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:41 PM
May 2016

We should nominate the Pope because he has the best national numbers against trump

CountAllVotes

(20,854 posts)
2. Vitally important that Sanders is the next President
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

We don't need nor want tRump.

HRC is bumping heads with tRump.

Sanders is a clear winner against tRump.

Why vote for anyone BUT Sanders, a clear winner?



CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
12. How cares
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016

Sanders supporters don't want to hear the truth - That those early polls mean nothing, that he hasn't been vetted yet, that the Republican hit machine would tear him apart.

So let's try this - Sanders' hypothetical poll performances against Trump mean absolutely nothing because Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee.

END OF CONVERSATION!!!

amborin

(16,631 posts)
21. Not so, polls at this stage are indeed indicators; this was addressed in a
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

recent article; don't have the cite at the moment

davidlynch

(644 posts)
13. Simple Way To Remember: How Much Is 7% Safety Net Worth?
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

It may be that Hillary could beat Trump. But 7% is a big safety valve.

If the Democrats lose to Trump, they lose everything. All of the Hillary supporters lose, including those that were planning for a plumb job in the new Clinton administration.

So, even in the name of self-interest, Hillary supporters have to really really internalize that number. Seven percent.

That 7% might not be necessary after all. You could gamble, and maybe you win.

But ignoring this and clinging to Hillary, for whatever reason, could sink this party and the nation with it.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. And yet that did not translate into primary votes.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:00 AM
May 2016

That will be the main question for the Sanders campaign post-mortem.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
46. Not that big of a deal
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

He gets Yuuuuuge crowds (she gets dozens). He has a never ending money supply. She just ran out and now has to go to Rebpulicans for money. In the twitter war, Bernie supporters did a million and Hillary supporters did about 20,000.

All those votes, . . I attribute to all those election "irregularities".

It is OBVIOUS to anyone looking that Bernie has the enthusiasm and popular support, but when you don't count their votes. . . duh!

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
18. Poll finds Romney would beat Obama if election were today
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:06 AM
May 2016

If the 2012 presidential election were held today, a new poll finds that Republican nominee Mitt Romney would top President Obama in a popular vote.

The CNN-ORC International poll, however, puts former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ahead of Romney by double digits in the hypothetical match.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/213441-poll-romney-bests-obama-falls-to-clinton

How'd that work out for Romney? Also, Hillary wasn't even running.

Hypothetical matchups are just that, hypothetical.


TheBlackAdder

(28,073 posts)
22. People should not become complacent, the GOP has a way to coalesce as it nears the General Election.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

.


These early polls skew the late dynamics of the GOP, how they solidify and close ranks better than Dems do.


.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
36. Hillary outperforms Sanders in the Democratic Primary only because of the unfair help with
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

dirty tricks from the DNC since a year ago, as well as the 90% Republican-owned
Main Stream Media. Bernie has always beaten Hillary in national polls comparing
the two of them to the Republicans.

The majority of Americans prefer Bernie to Hillary, by wide margins - and in every
national poll - every time.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
42. Nina Turner better change her support then. Lead by example if you want to change the rules after
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

things don't go your way.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
43. Is Nina Turner every single super delegate from her state?
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

You people seem incapable of comparing apples to apples. Just go somewhere else as I'm over this OP.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
49. Imaginary matchup polls are poor predictors of reality
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016

and no Republican has paid the slightest bit of attention to Sanders. If he were the nominee, those lofty numbers would drop like a stone once they got their opposition research machine churning.

You and your Bernie friends have been told this for months, yet it doesn't seem to penetrate the cloud.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. Sanders is not out performing against Hillary, a definite fact.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

He has to win the DNC nomination, Hillary needs about 153 more delegates to be the DNC nominee.

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