Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:30 AM May 2016

Why is Bernie still winning and still drawing massive crowds?

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/bernie-sanders-carson-california-rally-pictures-ca-photos-pics-oregon-kentucky-primary-how-many/


Both Kentucky- a draw- and Oregon were closed primaries, putting to rest the meme that he can't win when only dems vote.

Yes, yes. Hillary will be the nominee, but it's interesting that democrats, not just independents, are expressing their doubts and dissatisfaction with her. Still.
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
3. Oregon was closed only after a certain date and it is mail-in ballot.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

And the demographics of Oregon (small number of POCs) make Oregon a Sanders state.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
12. Spin control
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:45 AM
May 2016

Yes, he's still winning state primaries. That was what the OP was saying. No, he's not winning the overall delegate vote. We all know that.

The question is clear and it's a valid one; If everyone realizes that Hillary is almost certainly going to be the nominee, then why are there still so many voters in the remaining primaries that don't just fall in line and vote for her, since it's pretty clear that she'll be the nominee? Why so much resistance from within her own party?

Many HRC supporters are confident that these people who are voting against her now will come on board for the GE. I'm sure some will, but given the resistance we are seeing in these primaries, even after it's become clear that she'll probably be the nominee, I'd be worried if I was a HRC supporter. But if you guys are feeling confident good for you.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. Why was Obama still losing so late in the race in 2008?
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

the voters got over their doubt and dissatisfaction pretty quickly in the GE if you remember .

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
4. I hate to say it but Hillary has always been a toxic candidate.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

She came on to the scene this election season with millions of people who still can remember the antics she pulled with Obama. Also, believe it or not there are Americans who do not agree that we need to be warring across the planet. Single payer and affordable college are also two things in need of solutions as these are tying the hands of the American people. She is part of the problem from many people's view! This is the sad truth.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
9. Sanders is winning the same coalition that Clinton lost with in 08, he didn't learn the dem base
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

... has changed and their needs addressed and their needs or fears wasn't Wall Street

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. I think this movement is not just about this election
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

I know a lot of Bernie voters say they won't vote for Hillary, but I will and I'm fine with that. I don't see what Bernie is talking about as being so necessarily tied to this election. It's part of MoveOn, Occupy, etc., and it'll continue with Hillary as president.

So my answer would be that it's obvious that he isn't going to be president at this point, but that doesn't matter because it isn't the point. The fact that Bernie did so well means that both political parties, but particularly the Democrats, are going to have to acknowledge the issues brought up by the campaign on an ongoing basis.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
14. Her approval ratings are in the toilet
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

She always starts high and sinks as the campaign continues. This time they were prepared
and have been cheating since Bernie gained traction. She cannot win the GE this way though.
So what's the freaking point of pushing her down our unwilling throats?

Fly by night

(5,265 posts)
15. Because most Ds and Is know that to beat Trump ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

... we are definitely going to have to feel the Bern. Hillary's nomination makes Trump's election much (much) more likely.

The Rs know it.
So do the voters.
It's a shame so many can't see it
(or remain so willing to support it.)

Instead of taking back Congress and growing our party in all the right and proper ways, we will concede all governance to those who can't govern. Likely for the rest of my lifetime.

That's how I see it.
Now back to the Garden.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
16. I'm just gonna quote the tumblrina delegation's battle cry in response to your question
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

"It's because you're obviously racist/misogynistic/privileged/elitist and don't know how to do math and just let her have her turn already just sit down shut up and compromise your morals"

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
17. it's a smirking Versailles 1919 attitude that "we're oppressed, now it's your turn"
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

"do not put your hands on me!"

look how happy she is
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why is Bernie still winni...