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This is how Neera Tanden feels about Single Payer Healthcare. Hillary put a neoliberal on the (Original Post) JRLeft May 2016 OP
I think the item you wanted to show is not showing, something maybe with the link? insta8er May 2016 #1
I see it. JRLeft May 2016 #3
Sorry..it was my privacy badger tool that blocked it. insta8er May 2016 #23
we need this man! Baobab May 2016 #19
Thanks, baobab... truedelphi May 2016 #52
With "progressives" like these, who needs republicans? arcane1 May 2016 #2
Right? JRLeft May 2016 #4
They gave us "Heritage Foundation Care" after all. arcane1 May 2016 #5
They gave us what they could that was compatible with this Baobab May 2016 #29
But she is a WOMAN. Skwmom May 2016 #25
people are dying because of no healthcare or inadequate health care Baobab May 2016 #54
It was sarcasm. Welcome to the internet. JaneyVee May 2016 #6
You may not know who she is then. JRLeft May 2016 #9
Remember when Repubs called everyone freeloaders? JaneyVee May 2016 #12
Read this. JRLeft May 2016 #21
Bernie fired his Israel outreach director... JaneyVee May 2016 #27
Our government officials are completely one sided when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian issue. JRLeft May 2016 #41
Yeah, "neutral".... JaneyVee May 2016 #43
Read above, I said he's not where I want him to be but he's better than HRC. JRLeft May 2016 #47
There are none so blind... vintx May 2016 #51
Oh, I know. JRLeft May 2016 #53
Sure... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #10
She is against single payer - like Hillary she catapults the propaganda that it just can't be done vintx May 2016 #18
Actually the government already pays around 2/3 of every healthcare dollar. Baobab May 2016 #35
Yes but with a public option, there's no corporate profits to divvy up vintx May 2016 #42
Please look at the following links re- single payer vs fake "public option" Baobab May 2016 #74
No kidding. TwilightZone May 2016 #49
Tea Partiers think like this. Thanks Hillary!! nt stillwaiting May 2016 #7
But but but... she's a woman!!!!!11!1!11! vintx May 2016 #8
"Identity politics is killing this country!". Wonder what MLK would think? JaneyVee May 2016 #13
Cheering neoliberals because they're female is nowhere near a civil rights issue vintx May 2016 #20
Jury results. zeemike May 2016 #28
Aw, poor Hillary fans. You'll just have to keep trying! vintx May 2016 #30
they're Tumblr politics: the races and sexes should be separate, blood guilt is a great idea, MisterP May 2016 #57
Um... ok vintx May 2016 #69
what I meant was that I see a lot of similarities between the Clintonistas MisterP May 2016 #71
Only an entitled asshole would equate a paid subscription to the New York Times djean111 May 2016 #11
privilege Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #14
Wheres the privilege? JaneyVee May 2016 #32
She's against it now. JRLeft May 2016 #44
The candidate gets more disgusting with each passing day Doctor_J May 2016 #15
Wow, wonder what her DU name is. Autumn May 2016 #16
Have her views changed in the five years since that tweet was sent? LonePirate May 2016 #17
No, she's worse. She's a fuckin authoritarian JRLeft May 2016 #24
Tone down the rhetoric. JaneyVee May 2016 #31
Read the article. JRLeft May 2016 #38
I'm sure you will soon hear about her evolution. JackRiddler May 2016 #39
No she won't, she's a real staunch corporatist who uses the word progressive as a shield. JRLeft May 2016 #46
People are tired of being held hostage by insurance companies who give BIG MONEY to the politicians Skwmom May 2016 #22
She recently got Matt Bruenig fired because he got into a spat with Joan Walsh. JRLeft May 2016 #36
Matt Bruenig got fired because he can't behave like an adult and a professional. BobbyDrake May 2016 #56
Wrong he got fired because he challenged the establishment. JRLeft May 2016 #59
Whatever you need to tell yourself. BobbyDrake May 2016 #60
No, you live in a bubble. JRLeft May 2016 #61
And let me guess, you're rubber and I'm glue? JFC, what is this, recess? BobbyDrake May 2016 #68
And let's not forget how the Hilloons call Sanders supporters "privileged" Doctor_J May 2016 #26
Right? vintx May 2016 #33
Freeloaders. frylock May 2016 #34
The New York Times surely objects. JackRiddler May 2016 #37
It's clearly a joke. TwilightZone May 2016 #40
Have you seen the intercept article? Read that and ask me again if she's a progressive. JRLeft May 2016 #48
Watch this. JRLeft May 2016 #50
Citizens who can't afford insurance are "freeloaders?" Vinca May 2016 #45
Yeah, and for that transgression the BernieBros called her everything but a child of God... Blue_Tires May 2016 #55
The important thing is she has a vagina, right? TheKentuckian May 2016 #58
That was a joke. wildeyed May 2016 #62
Read the intercept article it has her emails in it. JRLeft May 2016 #64
If I am going to read that, you have to give me wildeyed May 2016 #67
Go, go.... fleabiscuit May 2016 #63
Maybe Neera because they are poorer. That is an old Democratic jwirr May 2016 #65
Camp Clinton would love this to be widely distributed. It is a Clinton core belief. Skwmom May 2016 #66
Maybe their only true core. JRLeft May 2016 #70
If you infiltrate the Democratic Party with Republican Corporatists, the chance you will Skwmom May 2016 #73
I saw her on Bill Maher a few months back and thought she was great Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #72
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. With "progressives" like these, who needs republicans?
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

They can get conservative things accomplished, and get cheered on by Dems for doing it.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
54. people are dying because of no healthcare or inadequate health care
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

its particularly horrible when people are intimidated out of getting care they need by poor shaming..

Jobs are going away, in 30 years, the way we are going, almost nobody will have a paying job.

technology of various kinds will do almost everything.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
6. It was sarcasm. Welcome to the internet.
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

Notice the date? It was during Obamacare debates. A knock on NYT paywalls.

Bernie put Cornel West on board. Should I gather some of his tweets for you?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. Remember when Repubs called everyone freeloaders?
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:51 PM
May 2016

Then Dems flipped it on them during Obamacare for them freeloading healthcare because they refused?

Yeah, try some nuance and context. Read her previous tweet from right before that one. Cherry picked bullshit.

Cornel West called Obama a "global George Zimmerman".

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
21. Read this.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

In 2012, a former AIPAC spokesman, Josh Block, launched a campaign to brand several young, liberal writers at CAP’s blog, ThinkProgress, as anti-Semites due to their writings on Israel, Palestine and Iran. CAP and its writers were widely vilified for what Ben Smith, then of Politico, calleddeviations from “the bipartisan consensus on Israel,” and for voicing “a heretical and often critical stance on Israel heretofore confined to the political margins.” Among other crimes, these CAP writers stood accused of failing to sufficiently praise the Netanyahu government: “Warm words for Israel can be hard to find on [CAP’s] blogs,” Smith noted.

Rather than stand behind its writers, top CAP officials, led by Tanden, applied constant coercion to stifle content upsetting to AIPAC. As Gharib, one of the vilified CAP writers,recounted last week, “CAP’s positions moving forward from the attacks — including but not limited to virtually banishing criticisms of Israel and Netanyahu from our writings and, in at least one case, needlessly censoring a piece after publication — were guided by how to return to AIPAC’s good graces, often in coordination with AIPAC itself.” Most of the CAP writers accused of Israel heresy were gone from the organization within a short time thereafter, and several have publicly revealed that they had been censored on matters pertaining to Israel.

THESE NEWLY PUBLISHED EMAILSreveal AIPAC-pleasing efforts far more heavy-handed than previously known. On January 20, 2012 — at the height of the controversy overThinkProgress’ publications on Israel — Tanden wrote an email to CAP founder John Podesta and several of her top aides, including ThinkProgress editor Judd Legum. In that email, Tanden recounted an angry call she received from Ann Lewis who, among other D.C. roles, served as the representativeof Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign on Jewish matters and is also a board member of Block’s hard-line group The Israel Project. The email reflects the censorship demands being imposed on CAP over Israel and how seriously Tanden was taking those demands:



https://theintercept.com/2015/11/05/leaked-emails-from-pro-clinton-group-reveal-censorship-of-staff-on-israel-aipac-pandering-warped-militarism/

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
41. Our government officials are completely one sided when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian issue.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

Bernie wants to be neutral Hillary is all in with the right wing in Israel.

He's not where I want him to be on that issue eight but he's light years better than Hillary.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
47. Read above, I said he's not where I want him to be but he's better than HRC.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016

She's completely aligned with the right wing government and AIPAC.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
18. She is against single payer - like Hillary she catapults the propaganda that it just can't be done
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

Which of course it can't while we still allow corporate money to rule DC

Which is why we need Bernie and not more new democrats abandoning principles cause they're chasing cash

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
35. Actually the government already pays around 2/3 of every healthcare dollar.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:17 PM
May 2016

You can read the details The Current and Projected Taxpayer Shares of US Health Costs - American Public Health Association We are already paying almost enough to switch to Single Payer and we then save so much we get it for almost nothing!.


Contrast that to State Health Reform Flatlines (2008) which shows us that we've been doing the same things over and over again even though they do not work.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
42. Yes but with a public option, there's no corporate profits to divvy up
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

So it's no wonder that our sold -out new dem leadership just throws their hands up and says 'oh well can't do it sorry!'

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
49. No kidding.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

It's so obviously a joke that I'm having a difficult time understanding how anyone doesn't see it.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
20. Cheering neoliberals because they're female is nowhere near a civil rights issue
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

How sad that you think it is anything close to analogous

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
28. Jury results.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

On Tue May 24, 2016, 04:48 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

But but but... she's a woman!!!!!11!1!11!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2043827

REASON FOR ALERT

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Sexist bs. And saying identity politics is killing this country is rightwing bs.

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vintx

(1,748 posts)
30. Aw, poor Hillary fans. You'll just have to keep trying!
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

What's funny is I'm a die hard feminist and far more left wing than this all-but-ruined-by-neoliberals party.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
57. they're Tumblr politics: the races and sexes should be separate, blood guilt is a great idea,
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

transwomen are infiltrators, and het sex i a perilous catastrophe that should be through a hole in a sheet (if at all)

because radicalism!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
71. what I meant was that I see a lot of similarities between the Clintonistas
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

and a supposed "radicalism" that ends up thoroughly reactionary--think Amanda Marcotte or Jessica Valenti

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Only an entitled asshole would equate a paid subscription to the New York Times
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

with access to health care.

This is why I think giving Bernie a few seats on committees is an empty gesture.

An apocryphal phrase credited to Henry Kissinger - he considered the poor as "useless eaters". I have no trouble believing he said it, I have no trouble believing he and his neoliberal disciples honestly feel that way.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
44. She's against it now.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
May 2016

Which is why she was called scumbag aka Internet theme for people who oppose policies they've benefited from.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
22. People are tired of being held hostage by insurance companies who give BIG MONEY to the politicians
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

so they have a captive customer base. With what we pay we should be able to cover everyone if we didn't have this predatory insurance system method for delivering health care.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
36. She recently got Matt Bruenig fired because he got into a spat with Joan Walsh.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:17 PM
May 2016

Over how to determine Bernie and Hillary supporters it wasn't race it was age, and he had data to back it up.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
56. Matt Bruenig got fired because he can't behave like an adult and a professional.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

Not to mention, his blogging isn't even his real job. You folks gave $25K to yet another "progressive" con artist.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
59. Wrong he got fired because he challenged the establishment.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

I'm certain, you had no idea who he was until I mentioned him in this thread.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
37. The New York Times surely objects.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:17 PM
May 2016

They really don't want their readership reduced to subscribers.

But the Catholic Church from pre-Luther days tweeted to agree. Don't want people reading too much stuff for themselves, now.

I think Twitter should institute a paywall, personally. She could be making money for these gems!

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
40. It's clearly a joke.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

The internet went a little nuts when NYT announced that they were putting in a paywall. This is clearly a reference to that.

Here's some context for the paywall controversy from the same time frame.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/06/new-york-times-publisher-sulzberger-defends-newspapers-online-pay-plan.html
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/17/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-nytimes-com-paywall/

Or do a search for "NY Times paywall" and focus on Feb/March/April 2011 and you'll find about a million articles.

Her post also says nothing about single-payer healthcare, but oh well.

As an aside, the decline in critical thinking skills and the inability to read for context around here make me a little sad.

Vinca

(50,168 posts)
45. Citizens who can't afford insurance are "freeloaders?"
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

That's a nice pitch for the voters. "Vote Hillary, Stop Freeloaders."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
55. Yeah, and for that transgression the BernieBros called her everything but a child of God...
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

Hardly a proper reaction, wouldn't you say?

https://twitter.com/neeratanden/with_replies

TheKentuckian

(24,940 posts)
58. The important thing is she has a vagina, right?
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

Nope! A man with liberal views beats a Fiorina woman type every time.

You think I feel represented by Clarence Thomas being on the Supreme Court? Give me a liberal white woman to represent me any day.

wildeyed

(11,240 posts)
67. If I am going to read that, you have to give me
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

a second (reliable) source that verifies the information first. That is Greenwald's rag, he was in on the kerfuffle with her and the Demos guy and made unsubstantiated attacks. Clearly he has an agenda too.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
73. If you infiltrate the Democratic Party with Republican Corporatists, the chance you will
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:49 PM
May 2016

end up with a Republican Corporatist drastically increases.
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
72. I saw her on Bill Maher a few months back and thought she was great
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:41 PM
May 2016

since then, my impression of her has gone way downhill...

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