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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:43 AM Jun 2016

Clinton camp: We'll win California in 'tight race'

Hillary Clinton's chief campaign strategist and pollster sounded a note of measured confidence on his candidate's chances Tuesday in California.

"I think it’s, like a lot of states, it’s close, it’s competitive. I think we win a tight race," Joel Benenson said in an interview on CNN's "New Day," adding, "And I think we’re gonna win New Jersey I’m pretty confident about that earlier in the evening no matter how it comes out."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-california-primary-2016-223931

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This tells me their internal polling must be good otherwise they would never predict a win even a "tight" one.

Sounds like its going to be a big night tomorrow for Madam Nominee!

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Clinton camp: We'll win California in 'tight race' (Original Post) DCBob Jun 2016 OP
I think you are 100% correct. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
It wouldn't surprise me to see Bernie take CA. calguy Jun 2016 #2
Republicans would have to have changed their registration back in May to vote in the Dem primary. upaloopa Jun 2016 #5
Thanks for setting me straight calguy Jun 2016 #9
The California Green Party lost about 30% of its voters Retrograde Jun 2016 #11
Many right-wing people I know in CA have always been registered NPP, to give them more flexibility eastwestdem Jun 2016 #62
a "R" can't vote in the Democratic primary Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #51
"no party preference" voters can vote in the democratic primary ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #57
Only if they changed their registrations. Non-affiliated can ask for a Democratic pnwmom Jun 2016 #69
I was at a Hillary rally in Oxnard, CA on Saturday and the primary was only upaloopa Jun 2016 #3
Clinton wins CA by 10-15 pts nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #4
I agree with you. I live on the Central Coast and students told me they are taking exams this week. upaloopa Jun 2016 #7
My daughter's in the San Fran area and tells me that everyone she knows pnwmom Jun 2016 #70
I think it will be a lot closer than that Retrograde Jun 2016 #12
Fingers crossed workinclasszero Jun 2016 #6
I thought exactly the same when I read that. auntpurl Jun 2016 #8
Yeah, I think something like 55-45 win for Hillary. DCBob Jun 2016 #32
A 60% drubbing by Sanders would be good enough LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #36
Benenson isn't a bullshitter either, dude sticks to the numbers nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
If Hillary has a slim win that is a huge loss. Seeinghope Jun 2016 #13
A huge loss for who? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #14
Hillary of course! Why would so many people vote for a loser? At this late stage in the game and Seeinghope Jun 2016 #25
Delusional nonsense, nothing more. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #27
Not at all! Truth is hard to deal with. Seeinghope Jun 2016 #37
Clearly it's hard for some people. Like you. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #41
Ha ha! All of these people voting for Bernie Sanders making it such a "tight" race when Hillary Cli Seeinghope Jun 2016 #42
It's not a tight race. It's a landslide. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #46
Did you forget to read the title of this thread? Seeinghope Jun 2016 #47
Did you forget this is a race for President of the United States, not President of California? -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #49
My comments were directed to the subject of the thread. Not the whole subject of the race for the Seeinghope Jun 2016 #50
When you are losing substantially... jcgoldie Jun 2016 #58
I am talking about California. Just California. If you want to drag other states into it Seeinghope Jun 2016 #63
Wow, ALREADY minimising her accomplishments? auntpurl Jun 2016 #16
It would be a huge loss for Bernie leftynyc Jun 2016 #17
In a "tight race". It would not be a huge loss for Bernie Sanders. It would put Hillary Clinton Seeinghope Jun 2016 #43
What would be pathetic leftynyc Jun 2016 #45
What is weak and corrupt is a candidate buying Super Delegates BEFORE even one vote is cast! Seeinghope Jun 2016 #48
LOL leftynyc Jun 2016 #60
My candidate, while possibly not becoming President of the United States. Would be a much better Seeinghope Jun 2016 #61
Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #68
Are you even serious? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #26
BernieMath - a slim win for Hillary = huge win for Bernie MariaThinks Jun 2016 #55
Nope. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #54
Any win would be huge. pnwmom Jun 2016 #71
I think so too. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #15
No, California doesn't matter nt firebrand80 Jun 2016 #19
Demographics have ruled thus far firebrand80 Jun 2016 #18
HRC supporters will be at home watching Fox News at 5 Est instead of voting Skink Jun 2016 #20
Right, because it's a Hillary love fest on Fox nt firebrand80 Jun 2016 #21
this is getting sad nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #24
Only one candidate has no problem with Fox News MadBadger Jun 2016 #29
Silly comment. DCBob Jun 2016 #33
I already faxed in my ballot from overseas SoCalNative Jun 2016 #52
It ain't Hillary supporters that seem to like watching Fox News. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #53
Jury results merrily Jun 2016 #59
Yup. Because they already mailed in their ballots. They were already pnwmom Jun 2016 #72
I have no doubt that the fix is in coyote Jun 2016 #22
of course, because it's just no possible that Bernie could ever lose, he's too dreamy nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
I think bernie supporters are giddy about coming in second. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #56
And exactly what "fix" might that be? MoonRiver Jun 2016 #28
She'll be making her victory speech after 1% of the vote has been calculated coyote Jun 2016 #35
Even if you are correct about Arizona, that is NOT a "fix." MoonRiver Jun 2016 #38
It's always a "fix" to you when Hillary wins, is it? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #30
Looks like I t was right afterall coyote Jun 2016 #67
Hill, YEEEESSSSSSSSS! K & R! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #31
Woo Hoo! I'm chilling a bottle of good Montana wine in the fridge for tomorrow :-) Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #34
Sounds great.. I have a nice Bordeaux ready for the occasion. DCBob Jun 2016 #39
The popping of corks and tinging of glasses will abound! We're having a sweet huckleberry peach Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #40
California will be close. Close is a Clinton win, though. MineralMan Jun 2016 #44
Its funny the Berners are claiming that a close contest is somehow a big win for Bernie. DCBob Jun 2016 #64
I don't know. I just count delegates. MineralMan Jun 2016 #65
Yep.. totally agree. DCBob Jun 2016 #66
And don't forget New Jersey -- a small state with lots of delegates. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #73

calguy

(5,222 posts)
2. It wouldn't surprise me to see Bernie take CA.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jun 2016

With Trump already clinching the GOP, a whole lot of republicans could switch over and vote for Bernie.
An right in thinking CA's semi open primary allows R's to vote for D's??
Someone educate me if I am wrong.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Republicans would have to have changed their registration back in May to vote in the Dem primary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

I haven't heard that there was any switching of parties just an increase in voter registrations and those were mostly Latinos.

Retrograde

(10,068 posts)
11. The California Green Party lost about 30% of its voters
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jun 2016

according to Mother Jones yesterday, most of them likely No Party Preference so they can vote for Sanders. In this year's primary, the Dems, Libertarians and American Independence Party are letting non-partisan (or No Party Preference) voters choose a candidate for president.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
62. Many right-wing people I know in CA have always been registered NPP, to give them more flexibility
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

since there is rarely (if ever?) any contested repub contests here.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
51. a "R" can't vote in the Democratic primary
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jun 2016

however Trump was clearly the nominee early enough for "R"s to change their registration to either "D" or "NPP" which would allow them to vote.


I know because I changed my NPP status to "R" thinking I might try to help throw a monkey wrench into the republican primary...but it was clear that Trump had won so I reverted to my NPP status

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
57. "no party preference" voters can vote in the democratic primary
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

and one poll I saw said that "republican leaning" voters are about a third of NPP voters. It's about 1.4 million "republican leaning" voters who are allowed to vote in the democratic primary.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
69. Only if they changed their registrations. Non-affiliated can ask for a Democratic
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:14 AM
Jun 2016

ballot, but R's can't. And there is no same-day registration.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. I was at a Hillary rally in Oxnard, CA on Saturday and the primary was only
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jun 2016

mentioned at the very end when Hillary asked everyone to vote on Tuesday. Everyone in line was given a form to complete to volunteer to phone bank or canvass these last three days.

Hillary did not mention Bernie at all. Her speech was all about defeating Trump.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
7. I agree with you. I live on the Central Coast and students told me they are taking exams this week.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

Minorities and women will hand CA to Hillary tomorrow.

Retrograde

(10,068 posts)
12. I think it will be a lot closer than that
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

I think the difference will be less than 5%, and it could swing either way. Of course, I have a near perfect record of being wrong with my predictions.....

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
8. I thought exactly the same when I read that.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

Predicting a win means their internals are good. Saying it's "tight" is so they don't depress voter turnout.

I've predicted Hillary wins CA by between 5-9%...but I'll be even happier if she wins big!

Of course, the thing that makes me happiest of all is that Hillary doesn't need to win CA at all.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
36. A 60% drubbing by Sanders would be good enough
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016

CA will just add to her by then unnecessary delegate count.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
14. A huge loss for who?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie's the one who needs a record-breaking landslide to close the massive pledged delegate gap.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
25. Hillary of course! Why would so many people vote for a loser? At this late stage in the game and
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

with Hillary Clinton all but formally being the presumptive nominee why would SO MANY voters go to the polls for Bernie Sanders?

As far as Hillary Clinton goes, why would she barely be winning California? At this stage in the Primary we should be seeing a tidal wave of support coming together for a candidate that is "going to clinch" the Presidential nomination.

If this is a slim win in her column, it really is a loss for her. She has had a few too many "slim" wins and she has the "whole" establishment behind her giving her every possible advantage that they could give her. She has done poorly against a virtually unknown candidate this whole primary season. Yes, she has 3,000,000 more votes but considering that she probably went into the race with most of those votes just like she went into the race with her Super Delegates doesn't say anything about the real time voters.

When you walk into a race with a the world knowing who you are and millions already behind you (including the whole establishment). Boasting about about a 3,000,000 vote lead really isn't anything to brag about. Like I said she has building support since she was 1st Lady back in the early 90's. Being on a national and international stage for 25+ years. Running against an unknown should have been a cakewalk. All you have to do is look at Trump. How many candidates did he run against? Most with well known names. A couple with superpower names equal to his. He handily knocked them all out. Not just one candidate but all of them.

Squeaking by at this point is a huge loss for a superstar with the WHOLE ESTABLISHMENT behind her. Whereas Bernie Sanders an unknown candidate with MOST of the ESTABLISHMENT working against him has still run an impressive campaign and has shown himself to be a formidable opponent and definetly not a quitter. That is why he had so much legislation passed In his career. He is tenacious and he offers hope to people that are losing hope in their lives and he is offering to help us bring our country back to the working class.

So he's, after all of this, if it is a close race.......Hillary Clinton has nothing to be proud of.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
42. Ha ha! All of these people voting for Bernie Sanders making it such a "tight" race when Hillary Cli
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

supposed to be already be the "presumptive nominee". Fact. Not delusion.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
50. My comments were directed to the subject of the thread. Not the whole subject of the race for the
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

President of the United States. There are plenty threads covering different aspects of the candidates. The policy differences. The Primaries. (The actual name/purpose of this forum/group btw). I'll be respectful and stick to the topic of the thread (something you are supposed to do if you are in a debate which in a way this forum is). Feel free to rewrite the rules though, Hillary Clinton does.

jcgoldie

(11,583 posts)
58. When you are losing substantially...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

...and then you fall further behind... that isn't a loss for your opponent.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
63. I am talking about California. Just California. If you want to drag other states into it
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

Then talk to someone else.

Sanders at this late stage of the game, with Hillary Clinton leading by a large margin and the Primary season just about over should be taking California easily.

There is a reason why she might just be squeaking by.....overall she is not a strong candidate..

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
16. Wow, ALREADY minimising her accomplishments?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jun 2016

Geez, she hasn't even won the state yet! Maybe wait til then to denigrate her in yet another goal-post moving way.

She doesn't need to win CA at all - that's how far ahead she is.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. It would be a huge loss for Bernie
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

It'll just put him further behind in pledged delegates and popular vote. In other words, it would be over for him.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
43. In a "tight race". It would not be a huge loss for Bernie Sanders. It would put Hillary Clinton
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

over the top but it would show her to be such a weak candidate further proving that a virtually unknown candidate (unknown a mere 6 months ago), could still almost beat Hillary Clinton in a huge primary like California. At just about the end of the Primary season the unknown is still getting enough votes to be threatening to the giant superstar.

That, to me,says that the superstar isn't too super.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
45. What would be pathetic
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jun 2016

would be the losing candidate trying to get the supers to switch when he couldn't beat her himself. Talk about a WEAK candidate. Really doesn't matter - Bernie is done after tomorrow.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
60. LOL
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

You sound very sure of yourself. Got those cancelled checks? Proof of quid pro quo? Or just spouting off because you're candidate is losing?

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
61. My candidate, while possibly not becoming President of the United States. Would be a much better
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

President of the United States than Hillary Clinton could ever hope to be. I cannot help what people choose. All you have to do is look at Trump. He is the .....winner too! LOL!!! Hillary Clinton is in fine company! They both are REAL winners. This time around the American people will lose horribly.....at least I can say that I did not vote for either one of them. My conscience is clear.

Just wait you will have a lot to answer for.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
55. BernieMath - a slim win for Hillary = huge win for Bernie
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jun 2016

like a handicap in golf.

I think Bernie thought getting 40% of the vote and delegates should give him the nomination because he was never really a democrat and really only spent about 6 months running for the position, while Hillary had a 10 year headstart.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
71. Any win would be huge.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:19 AM
Jun 2016

But a loss won't be important.

All she needs is 30% of the pledged delegates in the five states to reach a majority of pledged delegates. Than she'll have majorities of pledged, majorities of combined pledged/super delegates, and millions more votes from voters.

Skink

(10,122 posts)
20. HRC supporters will be at home watching Fox News at 5 Est instead of voting
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

There goes the 3 million lead.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
53. It ain't Hillary supporters that seem to like watching Fox News.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jun 2016

And it's funny you think Bernie will get over 3 million votes in CA.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
59. Jury results
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jun 2016

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HRC supporters will be at home watching Fox News at 5 Est instead of voting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2137969

REASON FOR ALERT

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Broad brush smear. Posting insults suggesting Clinton supporters are republican fox watchers.

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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
72. Yup. Because they already mailed in their ballots. They were already
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:21 AM
Jun 2016

Dems, so they didn't have to request a special ballot for this election. It was automatically sent to them weeks ago.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
35. She'll be making her victory speech after 1% of the vote has been calculated
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

Like she did in Arizona.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
30. It's always a "fix" to you when Hillary wins, is it?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jun 2016

Saint Bernie couldn't possibly lose a fair election.

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
34. Woo Hoo! I'm chilling a bottle of good Montana wine in the fridge for tomorrow :-)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jun 2016

Will be one hell of a fun night!

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
40. The popping of corks and tinging of glasses will abound! We're having a sweet huckleberry peach
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jun 2016


Sweet for victory!

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
44. California will be close. Close is a Clinton win, though.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

Half of California's pledged delegates comes up to 237. She won't need anything close to that many to have the majority of pledged delegates, when added to the PR, VI and other races. She'll win delegates in every one of the primaries.

Hillary will emerge from Tuesday's elections with way more than the 2026 pledged delegates she needs to have the majority. How many more, I can't say, but I estimate that she'll probably have about 100 more than she needs, plus or minus a few.

On Wednesday morning Hillary Clinton will be the undeniable presumptive nominee. It will be a great day in this primary season.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
64. Its funny the Berners are claiming that a close contest is somehow a big win for Bernie.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jun 2016

I dont get it. CA was his big chance to make a big gain and he's not going to do it. He loses.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
65. I don't know. I just count delegates.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jun 2016

Pledged delegates. They're all that matters. Winning a state by a shoestring is totally meaningless,at this point.

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