2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie' s California numbers will be higher because of the AP announcement.
People who like him more but think HRC will be a stronger nominee will now vote for him without the fear that he will actually get the nomination.
So win or lose his numbers will be higher than if there were still really a contest.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)that's really sad.
dchill
(38,320 posts)on the down ballot.
JudyM
(29,122 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But someone on here reported canvassing last night and meeting Bernie supporters who didn't think there was any point in voting because the media was saying Hillary had already won. So it could go either way.
That said, you might be right. My landlord was one of those people - he was torn between the two of them but I'm pretty sure he ended up going with Hillary because he thinks she is tough enough to beat Trump. If he were voting tomorrow he might have voted for Bernie.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)than that predicted by the "Bandwagon Effect".
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)they perceive her to be more electable. I think those people, not just people I know but others like them, will vote for the perceived less electable guy they agree with if the perceived more electable candidate has it locked up.
It is a theory. A hunch. Nothing more. But it has a logic too it. I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)amaze me.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)This cycle has become a joke of epic proportions. Nothing but a scripted fucking reality show at this point. I find it difficult to take it seriously.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And I think he's right. Impossible to say for certain who it hurts more. Regardless, Clinton was going to become the nominee, and I suspect she'd rather the news had broken during prime time on an election night (as opposed to late the night before).
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)help Hillary in California.
A USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll released Thursday evening shows Sanders leading with 44 percent to Clinton's 43 percent.
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But, the poll found, Clinton has a 10-point lead among those likely to vote next week, primarily due to support from older voters.
Sanders has continued to close the gap between him and Clinton and has been campaigning hard across the state.
Bernie Sanders has tapped into a wellspring of support in the Democratic primary over the last several weeks and hes closing with a rush, said Dan Schnur, director of USCs Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics, which partnered with the L.A. Times to conduct the poll.
"If Clinton manages to hold him off and win the primary, it would be as a result of a low turnout that tilts the electorate in her direction."
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JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)my own theory.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)would win California in a low turnout situation, But Bernie was slightly ahead (inside the margin of error) in a high turnout situation.
Motive established: USC/LA Times Poll shows Bernie winning California if turnout was high
A USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll released Thursday evening shows Sanders leading with 44 percent to Clinton's 43 percent.
...
But, the poll found, Clinton has a 10-point lead among those likely to vote next week, primarily due to support from older voters.
Sanders has continued to close the gap between him and Clinton and has been campaigning hard across the state.
Bernie Sanders has tapped into a wellspring of support in the Democratic primary over the last several weeks and hes closing with a rush, said Dan Schnur, director of USCs Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics, which partnered with the L.A. Times to conduct the poll.
"If Clinton manages to hold him off and win the primary, it would be as a result of a low turnout that tilts the electorate in her direction."
...
msongs
(67,193 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Doubtful. It'll all be based on mail-ins. Bernie has no chance.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)As a HRC supporter, I am really embarrassed by some of my fellow supporters behavior. It just shows you their character.
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I guess gloaters are gonna gloat. However some of us HRC supporters love BS and his ideas and want to see what he does next.