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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:08 PM Jun 2016

Sen. Elizabeth Warren to endorse Hillary Clinton tonight on Rachel Maddow

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The Situation Room ?@CNNSitRoom · 23m23 minutes ago

Source close to Elizabeth Warren says she will endorse Hillary Clinton tonight. http://cnn.it/1U3WT95 @jeffzeleny

The Situation Room ?@CNNSitRoom · 11m11 minutes ago

Source tells @jeffzeleny Warren wanted to do it same day as Obama “to make it more forceful for the overall goal.”

https://twitter.com/CNNSitRoom?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Now MSNBC is reporting that Rachel Maddow will feature EW making the endorsement on her show.

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren to endorse Hillary Clinton tonight on Rachel Maddow (Original Post) book_worm Jun 2016 OP
... LexVegas Jun 2016 #1
Fantastic! #FeelTheUnity NurseJackie Jun 2016 #2
Pretty disgusting to use "#FeelTheUnity" when you were never a Bernie supporter. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #32
That makes no sense at all, Jon. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #39
It makes plenty of sense. Not to you, perhaps, but then I never expected to change your mind. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #41
I think you're just pretending to be angry for the sake of being angry. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #44
You want an explanation? (I kind of thought this was obvious, but I'll explain...) JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #48
You're too sensitive. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #50
Yes, telling the aggrieved party "you're too sensitive" is an EXCELLENT defense of your pettiness. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #51
Oh get off it, Jon! You're not an aggrieved party. Jesus Christ! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #52
We were never friends. Nor will we be. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #54
NOW who's being "petty"? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #55
I will not support the Democratic nominee. I may vote for the nominee, if she deserves the vote JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #56
Well ... if that's the best you can bring yourself to do, then that'll be fine with me. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #59
Jon, Elizabeth's endorsement is good for Bernie and Hillary. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #45
Progressive causes are not furthered by endorsements by progressives. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #47
Well, let's wait and see. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #49
What's important, Leibowiz? Progressive principles Hortensis Jun 2016 #42
OMG! I'm so excited. Fired up and ready to go, round 2! grossproffit Jun 2016 #3
D-DAY! INCOMING @realDonaldTrump BootinUp Jun 2016 #4
Did they give a time? Native Jun 2016 #5
I know nothing more than the tweets on the link provided, sorry to say. book_worm Jun 2016 #6
I saw both she and VP Biden leftynyc Jun 2016 #15
Thanks! So excited!!! Native Jun 2016 #20
I'm getting so jazzed today leftynyc Jun 2016 #22
I'm sure he's doing all he can on the other side to help move this along! Native Jun 2016 #26
He met her at leftynyc Jun 2016 #60
Sounds like he was a wonderful father. You were so lucky to have him! Native Jun 2016 #62
Incredibly lucky leftynyc Jun 2016 #63
Check that leftynyc Jun 2016 #19
I have to wait until 9 p.m.? God help me. Native Jun 2016 #29
She'll endorse on the Rachel Maddow Show lanlady Jun 2016 #57
It keeps getting better! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #7
kick rbrnmw Jun 2016 #8
Kick politicasista Jun 2016 #9
Is anyone surprised by this SheenaR Jun 2016 #10
Warren likes Hillary, but she also is more of a progressive... qdouble Jun 2016 #12
Because Warren puts Warren first. It is not really hard to figure out. Skwmom Jun 2016 #16
With respect to political intelligence, you are correct. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #38
She did as she should. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #46
Clout. She played it perfect. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #34
my guess is... quickesst Jun 2016 #35
WONDERFUL NEWS!!!! Love it! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #11
Yes it is. book_worm Jun 2016 #13
Birds of a feather... Skwmom Jun 2016 #14
Indeed, yes, two very accomplished women. I agree with you 100% book_worm Jun 2016 #17
Some one has a sad! JoePhilly Jun 2016 #36
Elizabeth Warren has been a DU favorite for a long time gollygee Jun 2016 #61
Two different approaches... brooklynite Jun 2016 #18
Live tonight on RACHEL MADDOW brooklynite Jun 2016 #21
Outstanding! book_worm Jun 2016 #23
GET UNDER THE BUS LIZZY! Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #24
Hopefully this will help some of BS's more reasonable supporters book_worm Jun 2016 #25
Women for women by women. Yeah, I'm basking. nolabear Jun 2016 #27
Love your post! Native Jun 2016 #33
Thanks. I'm on an endorphin high. nolabear Jun 2016 #53
. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #40
Excellent! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #28
Thank You Senator Warren! BootinUp Jun 2016 #30
Ooh, I will definitely want to watch that video. auntpurl Jun 2016 #31
I almost feel bad for Bernie today... CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #37
Wow! What a day!!!! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #43
And Martin O'Malley PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #58

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
32. Pretty disgusting to use "#FeelTheUnity" when you were never a Bernie supporter.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

Stay classy, HRC supporters...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
39. That makes no sense at all, Jon.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016
JonLeibowitz
32. Pretty disgusting to use "#FeelTheUnity" when you were never a Bernie supporter.

Stay classy, HRC supporters...

Are we to understand that only Bernie supporters are the sole purveyors of who may--and may not--feel the unity, encourage it, and celebrate it? What does being a Hillary supporter have do so with that? Why does not being a Bernie fan preclude anyone from expressing that?

"Stay classy" indeed!

PS: #FeelTheUnity

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
41. It makes plenty of sense. Not to you, perhaps, but then I never expected to change your mind.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

I speak to the readers of DU. so i call things out as I see them. Good day.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. I think you're just pretending to be angry for the sake of being angry.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jun 2016
JonLeibowitz
41. It makes plenty of sense. Not to you, perhaps, but then I never expected to change your mind.


I speak to the readers of DU. so i call things out as I see them. Good day.
Nice dodge, by the way. If it was so terribly important to you, then you'd have made an effort to explain your cryptic admonishment. As it stands now, it looks to me as though you're just blurting out a stream of consciousness without proofreading before you click the "submit" button ... and when pressed on the meaning, or the reasoning behind your shitty remark, you struggle to justify it. I never expected you to actually elaborate. I just wanted to put you on the spot and force you to evade.

Good day to you too, my friend.

PS: #FeelTheUnity


JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
48. You want an explanation? (I kind of thought this was obvious, but I'll explain...)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

#FeelTheBern has been a cute rallying cry of Sanders supporters and the unofficial campaign slogan. What you Hillary supporters are doing is commandeering it to indicate unity (something that Sanders supporters are not eager to do). Further, it is a haughty expression by HRC supporters that YOU should feel Unity with THEM despite no policy shifts or embrace of progressive causes. So yes, it is disrespectful and rude to misappropriate the term for your use.

That is my explanation.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. Oh get off it, Jon! You're not an aggrieved party. Jesus Christ!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jun 2016

You ARE being hypersensitive and it would be dishonest of me not to tell you so. If I recall correctly, you're the same person who continually took great issue when people said "Bernie fans" instead of your preferred verbiage of "Bernie supporters". Yet another example of unnecessary hypersensitivity.

JonLeibowitz
51. Yes, telling the aggrieved party "you're too sensitive" is an EXCELLENT defense of your pettiness.


I'm not "defending" anything ... there's nothing to "defend". I'm just pointing out the obvious, and reminding you that this isn't the only time you've tried to pull this crap. It was absurd then, and it's absurd now.

Maybe one day we can be friends again, but if everything offends you so much, I see you're not ready to even try or even be halfway open to the idea.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
55. NOW who's being "petty"?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016
JonLeibowitz
54. We were never friends. Nor will we be.

I consider to be a friend anyone who's willing to join us in helping to defeat Donald Trump by supporting our party's nominee.

If you refuse to accept that, then it's your problem, not mine. If you don't want to help, that's your choice, not mine. I suppose that some people find a great deal of comfort in being perpetually angry. I don't fully understand that, but it's their decision to make.

I won't try to change your mind. I have better things to do. You'll either come around, or you won't. If you do, that's great. If you don't, well ... that says more about you than it does about me.

Goodbye for now.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
56. I will not support the Democratic nominee. I may vote for the nominee, if she deserves the vote
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

Supporting the nominee is different than voting against Trump. That is, I will never participate in her campaign.

That I won't "come around" has little to do with me: it speaks to my expectation that Hillary will not embrace progressive policies as part of her platform. I actually have no clue what "come around" is supposed to mean; falling in line is giving up. Much rather put pressure on Pols to deserve our votes.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
59. Well ... if that's the best you can bring yourself to do, then that'll be fine with me.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

I welcome your honesty and support, friend.

I actually have no clue what "come around" is supposed to mean;

It means to realize that one's "pride" is a secondary concern when it comes to voting for the candidate who can actually defeat the fascist Donald Trump. Nothing more, nothing less. (Stop trying to find hidden meanings and insults in everything that anyone writes.)

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
45. Jon, Elizabeth's endorsement is good for Bernie and Hillary.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

It's all for the progressive cause. Bernie most likely will suspend his campaign and so it's great that a progressive will join forces with Clinton to beat Trump.

It's all good if the chief objective at this point is to win the election and keep Trump from the presidency.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
47. Progressive causes are not furthered by endorsements by progressives.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

They are furthered by activism and actual embrace of that policy by pols. Anything else is noise. Literally everyone expected Obama and Warren to endorse Hillary; the fact that they are doing so now can't mean anything about the future of progressive causes.

Just my opinion, though.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
49. Well, let's wait and see.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jun 2016

It could be that Warren becomes Clinton's running mate. IMHO, if that happened and Clinton won, that would be a huge step forward for Warren's and Sanders' priorities concerning the financial control wielded over our country by Wall Street and the ultra wealthy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. What's important, Leibowiz? Progressive principles
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

and goals? If so, you should be happy at the idea of unity between Bernie's progressives and the rest of the party's progressives.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. I saw both she and VP Biden
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jun 2016

are giving speeches tonight (sorry, I don't remember where) that will begin at 7:30PM. I'm guessing the news will carry them (or cspan).

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. I'm getting so jazzed today
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016

All this good news while watching the pubs implode. My dad would have loved this (he passed 4 years ago) - he LOVED Hillary.

Native

(5,935 posts)
26. I'm sure he's doing all he can on the other side to help move this along!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary is the kind of woman that you don't instantly take to, but once you get to know her, you fall completely in love. At least that's what I've observed around me.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
60. He met her at
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

A fundraiser and fell in love with her. I know he's smiling down on her today. He took his politics very seriously and passed that down to me and my sister.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
63. Incredibly lucky
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:47 AM
Jun 2016

Me, mom and my sister miss him every day. Especially during an election year. 4 years later and I still reach for the phone sometimes when the republican say something especially stupid.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
10. Is anyone surprised by this
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jun 2016

We have a presumptive nominee

Now they come and do their part.

But why is nobody asking Warren why she didn't announce sooner? This is the definition of taking the easy way out.

Note: Not an under the bus throw. I like her. A lot.

qdouble

(891 posts)
12. Warren likes Hillary, but she also is more of a progressive...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jun 2016

it's not hard to see why she wouldn't want to alienate anybody. It's not something we should fault her for.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
38. With respect to political intelligence, you are correct.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

It's how she gains influence allowing her to pull the party to the left and make society more just.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Elizabeth_Warren.htm

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
46. She did as she should.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jun 2016

Warren knew that if she endorsed Bernie earlier in the campaign, she would be alienating her Senate colleagues whose support she needs to get her legislation passed. She also figured that Bernie was a long shot to win.

We need an effective Warren in the Senate, not one weakened politically for endorsing a likely loser of the campaign.


 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
34. Clout. She played it perfect.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jun 2016

She would have lost political clout had she endorsed early. No matter who she endorsed. Warren is quickly becoming a powerhouse and she plays her hand like a master. That is why she was the first choice by most over that of Sanders in taking on Clinton.

Go Warren!!!!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
35. my guess is...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

... she was simply avoiding all those assholes that would do to her the same thing they did to Barbara Boxer, and all the other people who were good Progressives until they endorsed Hillary and were summarily belittled and thrown under the bus. I don't blame her at all.

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
11. WONDERFUL NEWS!!!! Love it!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jun 2016

I trust HRC in whatever choice she makes for VP, but Warren should would be a GOOD PICK. I don't think the Senate will be a huge worry this election. I think we'll have an impressive majority and a mandate.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
61. Elizabeth Warren has been a DU favorite for a long time
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jun 2016

And suddenly she isn't.

It's getting ridiculous. Actually, it's been way past ridiculous for some time.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
18. Two different approaches...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

1. Endorse and work for the issues you care about

2. Demand the issues you care about as the price for endorsement

I wonder which is more effective.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
53. Thanks. I'm on an endorphin high.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

I could hug a porcupine. Which at the moment is a pretty good assessment of what I'm trying to do around here.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
37. I almost feel bad for Bernie today...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

first having to go to the house he won't be living in for the next few years, and now having both Obama and Warren endorse today. It's a tough day for him.

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