2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe RNC Plans To Turn Bernie Backers Against Hillary Clinton’s VP Pick
In a strategy memo provided to The Huffington Post, the committee outlines how it will attack the top candidates.06/26/2016 08:00 pm ET | Updated 10 hours ago
Sam Stein Senior Politics Editor, The Huffington Post
The Republican National Committee is planning to cleave liberal voters away from Hillary Clinton as part of a campaign to counteract her forthcoming pick of a vice presidential running mate.
In a detailed memo outlining its strategy to combat Clintons VP choice, the committee says it will frame the selection as both a cynical play to certain constituencies and as an emotional letdown for voters who backed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Democratic primary.
The goals, the memo says, are to drive wedges between these top contenders and either Clinton and/or traditional Democrat constituencies, such as labor, environmentalists, and gun control advocates, and other traditional left-wing constituencies; and (w)here applicable, frame the choice as an insult to the large, deep base of Bernie Sanders supporters who are struggling with the notion of supporting Hillary Clinton as the presumptive Democrat nominee.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-vp-choice_us_577027f7e4b0f1683239e34a
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Anyone who could be wooed to vote for Trump was going to vote for him over Hillary anyway.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bernie voters can work. After all, right or wrong, many are already offended, so the GOP already has a weak point to exploit. And remember, it's not all about Hillary v. Trump: when voters just stay home the other side wins up and down their whole ballot.
If the GOP proceeds with this, we should see any effects right here in the condensed political atmosphere of DU. Choosing Warren would neutralize it, of course, while Tim Kaine, who is definitely a moderate liberal who routinely tries to reach consensuses across the aisle, would probably generate angry responses. In any case, an "insulted" theme shouldn't be hard to pick up on--if it occurred.
Btw, WaPo just polled SBSers who vote for Trump at 8%, 81% for Hillary, with presumably the remaining 11% undecided.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)That group couldn't plan their way out of a paper bag unless it was to sit and do nothing about something important!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)is in free fall in the polls and most republicans don't even want to show their face at their convention because they don't want to be associated with the Trump train wreck!
peace13
(11,076 posts)Even the public cringes from his name!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Vinca
(50,170 posts)As much as Hillary supporters still dislike Bernie, that is her guaranteed way of capturing Bernie voters.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)If the rest won't come on board then that is on them. Sanders is not a good VP choice. Trump is already using sanders own words against Hillary. She needs someone who has supported her from the beginning.
Vinca
(50,170 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)If that were the criteria, she never would have been chosen as SOS.
Obama 'got over it' and chose her.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Of course grown ups work together after having disagreements, but run with a VP who strongly inferred she was corrupt? Not happening, it's laughable to consider.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I could post some of the things she said about Obama in 08, but it would be a TOS violation. I'm sure Hillary would get over it just as easily as Obama did.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Both her and the bulk of working Denocrats.
They'd use his words against him and her. Not going to happen anyway, the idea is ridiculous.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And he didn't insult anyone. There is no convincing a partisan.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And she does if need him. He could drag Demos down. Not going to happen.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Democratic primary seem to indicate a less than full presentation of the facts. Your words seem to denigrate the Democrats of this State and the millions of others in other States who voted for Bernie in our Democratic Primary. He trashed no one and his criticisms of the Party are valid and vital. You on the other hand seem to detest the voters in all the States that voted for Bernie. If your view was in fact the view of a strong majority of Democrats we'd not be having this conversation at all. She did not sweep the table. She did not come close to winning my State. Not even close. This is one of the most Democratic States in the Union.
Of course I'm used to being critical of this Party because it took years of righteous criticism to move this Party to support LGBT equality, years to move our presumptive nominee to that simple and basic support for equality. Those who said the Party was just fine back then failed the LGBT community, those who criticized the Party did their duty.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Refused to do. You do the math on this. It's a national election- wish all states were like Oregon but they are not. wish sanders had not tarred everyone taking contributions but it's done now and loads of people have bought the "they're all corrupt" bullshit. We've moved past that nonsense.
Vinca
(50,170 posts)Bernie ran the tamest campaign against Hillary I've ever seen a candidate run. You seem to think Hillary is some tender flower when she's the exact opposite. Disrespect is what you're seeing now from Trump.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)he does not belong on the ticket in what is basically a support role. Have worked in politics and had some pretty sweet victories, but thanks for judging me without knowing a thing.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Denigrating entire States is a choice but not one I've seen any Democrat do in the past. Bernie Sanders won my State by 12 points, closed Primary. Oregon disagrees with you in strong majority.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)National election and we have a candidate that needs a supportive running mate. By literally withholding support Sanders has eliminated any chance he could have had at VP all on his own.
Did not say a thing about his voters- check yourself!
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)I don't think that's Bernie, and it has nothing to do with disliking him. It has to do with him not being a good fit for the task at hand.
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BeyondGeography
(39,284 posts)tanyev
(42,360 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)They're the ones with real reason to worry.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Trump is destroying their damned party while they play little political games.
Idiots.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)A-holes
nolabels
(13,133 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)When they nominated Palin in hopes of picking off some disgruntled Hillary supporters. I am not worried about the genuine progressives who supported Bernie going to Trump. I am worried about some of the blue collar "Reagan Democrats" who have become swing voters and are drawn to the populist, anti-trade message that both Bernie and Trump espouse more than Hillary.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)MSNBC was just having a field day with it and, of course, are still running with the narrative that Trump is turning this thing around with his speech tomorrow about economics, the TPP, etc.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)All Four of those- President, VP, Speaker and SOS worthy of the Presidents chair and all Ds.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Trump. What happens if a nominee can't get a VP to agree to run? Hard to believe they are lining up for that death march.