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hamsterjill Jul 2016 OP
Skinner Jul 2016 #1
RexCasual Jul 2016 #2
Spazito Jul 2016 #3
Lisa D Jul 2016 #4
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #7
treestar Jul 2016 #21
auntpurl Jul 2016 #5
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #8
pnwmom Jul 2016 #32
GumboYaYa Jul 2016 #6
ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #9
nolabear Jul 2016 #10
bekkilyn Jul 2016 #11
BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #12
pnwmom Jul 2016 #13
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #15
pnwmom Jul 2016 #25
forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #14
Skidmore Jul 2016 #16
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #17
Hekate Jul 2016 #18
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #19
Pathwalker Jul 2016 #20
hamsterjill Jul 2016 #22
Pathwalker Jul 2016 #23
Kathy M Jul 2016 #24
redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #26
pnwmom Jul 2016 #31
ailsagirl Jul 2016 #27
DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #28
mcar Jul 2016 #29
DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #30
smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #33
DFW Jul 2016 #34
R B Garr Jul 2016 #35
oioioi Jul 2016 #36

Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:14 PM

1. Thanks for sharing.

I think that we have seen Hillary Clinton for so long that it is easy for some of us to forget that this is actually a big deal.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:35 PM

2. Yes, thank you

For the smiles and the inspiration, as well. Stay enthusiastic, my friend

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Response to RexCasual (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:41 PM

3. Beautiful OP!

Very moving and I agree with each and every word of it.

Thank you.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:42 PM

4. I'm right there with you.

In my high school in the 70s, girls were encouraged to take an advanced typing and dictation class where one of the lessons was "How to polish your fingernails."

And if you talked about attending college, there were people who said you were only going for your "Mrs." degree.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:35 PM

21. Mid 70s

My junior high opened Home Ec to boys and shop to girls! My year was the last one to be restricted. Women's Lib was starting to take hold.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:43 PM

5. As a 43-year old woman who was told in HS women were "too emotional" to be president

I feel you!

And not just ANY woman, THIS woman!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:47 PM

32. They used to say that women's menstrual cycles made them too unstable to be President.

Seriously. Because on a couple days of the month they are low on estrogen -- like men are all of the time.



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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:43 PM

6. I got chills reading that!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:47 PM

9. K&R

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:52 PM

10. Me too. I grew up the only liberal in the 60s South. I'm so happy.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:38 PM

11. I always got excuses like...

I agree with you. It would be a great thing for a woman to be president, BUT...

she would never be elected.
the country isn't ready for it.
there aren't any qualified candidates.
people won't accept a woman as Commander and Chief.
she wouldn't have the right sort of military experience.

Etc.

I took machine shop in high school instead of home economics. I was the only female in the class. When I arrived, the teacher asked me if I was supposed to be in the class, but didn't argue after I said yes. He turned out to be a big jerk, though not to me. He had the assumption that nearly everyone in the class was on track to be criminals so he acted accordingly. He even had a police officer visit the class a couple of times as a sort of discouragement tactic. Yes, most of the students in the class were black. Didn't really learn much if anything, but at least it wasn't home ec.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:42 PM

12. I'm right there with you but I am

in my early 70s.

Yes, this is a BIG F**King Deal! Thanks for your heartfelt OP!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:22 PM

13. As late as the 1990's, I was told that my daughter couldn't have an appropriate math placement

because she was a girl.

The middle school was set to ignore the placement recommendation that the elementary school had made, based on the work she was doing there. The principal insisted that all students benefited from standard sixth grade math. She admitted that there was a 6th grader who was taking 8th grade math, but that was different, she said, because he was a boy.

It took me a month of pushing but my daughter finally got the math she wanted. (Math, for her, was like chocolate. Reading was broccoli.) And she ended up with a PHD in engineering.

But that stupid school in 1994 wanted to tell me she couldn't take the right math class because she was a girl.

All of us have stories like this. All of us feel more hopeful because Hillary Clinton just broke that barrier. I think a huge wave of excited women will go to the polls in November.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:01 PM

25. Thank you, hamster jill!

Another girl was affected by this, too. The elementary school had had my daughter and her friend working together for three years, basically teaching each other. So when the middle school finally broke down about my daughter, they did for her friend, too. And that young woman went on to become a Phd physicist.

Those two were part of a math team that won the state competition a couple years in a row. So I bet they helped open the doors for more girls. That's how it works, usually.



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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:29 PM

14. It's still sometimes shocking for me that people STILL THINK like that

 

That women aren't as smart, ambitious or capable. I always took that for granted and it amazes me that other people don't even today. As I read more and more and realized how much more needed to be done, and talked to more girls and women about how they are treated in society both educationally, career-wise and personally. I hope after 8 years of Hillary that changes for the better.

But I also fear it'll be like what happened with 8 years of Obama. Just like I heard the N word more and more throughout his tenure, I fear we'll hear the C word more and more, and that misogyny will bubble up to the surface even more.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:43 PM

16. Yes, yes.

And some of us have waited longer, with others still waiting much longer still.

I was thinking of Ruline last night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ruline-steininger-hillary-clinton_us_5797d1dae4b01180b530ad5f

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:58 PM

18. Kick for Sisterhood! Let's do this for our daughters and our sons!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:33 PM

20. My grandma was a suffragette, now almost 70, I hear her words

echoing to me from years gone by: Make sure you vote, girl - and don't ever forget how long it took for women to get this right. Feeling her spirit this week. Miss you, wish you were here to see this.

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Response to Pathwalker (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:38 PM

22. I come from a long line of independent, strong women myself.

Like you, I've thought of many of them this week.

Kudos to your grandma!!!!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:46 PM

23. It's a great week to be a woman! Our foremothers have led us here,

now we must continue the fight for our daughters, granddaughters, and our sons and grandsons!
On to victory!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:58 PM

24. Thank You for sharing ....

Beautiful I agree with every word !!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:04 PM

26. I feel the same, and I'm a woman in my 60's.

My only wish is that my Mom could have been here to see it....

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:45 PM

31. My mother is alive and I knew what to send her for her birthday this summer --

Hillary stuff!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:05 PM

27. Thank you, hamsterjill

YES!! Let's DO this in November, Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:19 PM

28. Thank you.

My 84-year old mother would agree with you.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:15 PM

29. Fellow "woman of a certain age" here

And I am right there with you, Jill. I've been in tears all week. I really didn't think it would hit me that hard.

This morning, I went to my usual water aerobics class at a gym in my Tea Party FL town. Needless to say, I don't talk politics with too many there, although most of the people are lovely human beings regardless.

One older woman came in, ran to an even older woman and said"did you see her? Did you see her?" I wandered over and sure enough, they were celebrating history! We talked about the convention till class started.

I had no clue I wasn't alone. I felt good about it all day.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:16 PM

30. K&R!

I've been crying for days! So very excited, and happy that this historic accomplishment has FINALLY come to pass.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:51 PM

33. +1000

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:34 AM

34. That's how we raised our girls, too

Yes, they played with dolls when they were little. But when they were ready to choose their schools and careers, we gave them unrestricted freedom and support. One is now a buyer for a major store chain in the USA and her "little" sister at age 31, is one of the top attorneys (if not THE top) in Europe in her field. Both are dual citizens and both proudly vote Democratic in every American election.

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:38 AM

35. KnR. It was a special moment. Here's to fighters!

I do so admire her grit and tenacity. She sets a great example. Nice thread!

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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:21 AM

36. Just be prepared for what's to come....

https://m.

Evolution is an excuciatingly slow process.

It is a big deal, but it's only the beginning.

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