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hamsterjill

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Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:11 PM Jul 2016

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) hamsterjill Jul 2016 OP
Thanks for sharing. Skinner Jul 2016 #1
Yes, thank you RexCasual Jul 2016 #2
Beautiful OP! Spazito Jul 2016 #3
I'm right there with you. Lisa D Jul 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jul 2016 #7
Mid 70s treestar Jul 2016 #21
As a 43-year old woman who was told in HS women were "too emotional" to be president auntpurl Jul 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jul 2016 #8
They used to say that women's menstrual cycles made them too unstable to be President. pnwmom Jul 2016 #32
I got chills reading that! GumboYaYa Jul 2016 #6
K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #9
Me too. I grew up the only liberal in the 60s South. I'm so happy. nolabear Jul 2016 #10
I always got excuses like... bekkilyn Jul 2016 #11
I'm right there with you but I am BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #12
As late as the 1990's, I was told that my daughter couldn't have an appropriate math placement pnwmom Jul 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jul 2016 #15
Thank you, hamster jill! pnwmom Jul 2016 #25
It's still sometimes shocking for me that people STILL THINK like that forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #14
Yes, yes. Skidmore Jul 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jul 2016 #17
Kick for Sisterhood! Let's do this for our daughters and our sons! Hekate Jul 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jul 2016 #19
My grandma was a suffragette, now almost 70, I hear her words Pathwalker Jul 2016 #20
I come from a long line of independent, strong women myself. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #22
It's a great week to be a woman! Our foremothers have led us here, Pathwalker Jul 2016 #23
Thank You for sharing .... Kathy M Jul 2016 #24
I feel the same, and I'm a woman in my 60's. redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #26
My mother is alive and I knew what to send her for her birthday this summer -- pnwmom Jul 2016 #31
Thank you, hamsterjill ailsagirl Jul 2016 #27
Thank you. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #28
Fellow "woman of a certain age" here mcar Jul 2016 #29
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #30
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #33
That's how we raised our girls, too DFW Jul 2016 #34
KnR. It was a special moment. Here's to fighters! R B Garr Jul 2016 #35
Just be prepared for what's to come.... oioioi Jul 2016 #36

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
1. Thanks for sharing.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jul 2016

I think that we have seen Hillary Clinton for so long that it is easy for some of us to forget that this is actually a big deal.

RexCasual

(171 posts)
2. Yes, thank you
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

For the smiles and the inspiration, as well. Stay enthusiastic, my friend

Spazito

(49,765 posts)
3. Beautiful OP!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jul 2016

Very moving and I agree with each and every word of it.

Thank you.

Lisa D

(1,532 posts)
4. I'm right there with you.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jul 2016

In my high school in the 70s, girls were encouraged to take an advanced typing and dictation class where one of the lessons was "How to polish your fingernails."

And if you talked about attending college, there were people who said you were only going for your "Mrs." degree.

Response to Lisa D (Reply #4)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. Mid 70s
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jul 2016

My junior high opened Home Ec to boys and shop to girls! My year was the last one to be restricted. Women's Lib was starting to take hold.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
5. As a 43-year old woman who was told in HS women were "too emotional" to be president
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

I feel you!

And not just ANY woman, THIS woman!

Response to auntpurl (Reply #5)

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
32. They used to say that women's menstrual cycles made them too unstable to be President.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jul 2016

Seriously. Because on a couple days of the month they are low on estrogen -- like men are all of the time.



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GumboYaYa

(5,941 posts)
6. I got chills reading that!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
9. K&R
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
10. Me too. I grew up the only liberal in the 60s South. I'm so happy.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jul 2016

bekkilyn

(454 posts)
11. I always got excuses like...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jul 2016

I agree with you. It would be a great thing for a woman to be president, BUT...

she would never be elected.
the country isn't ready for it.
there aren't any qualified candidates.
people won't accept a woman as Commander and Chief.
she wouldn't have the right sort of military experience.

Etc.

I took machine shop in high school instead of home economics. I was the only female in the class. When I arrived, the teacher asked me if I was supposed to be in the class, but didn't argue after I said yes. He turned out to be a big jerk, though not to me. He had the assumption that nearly everyone in the class was on track to be criminals so he acted accordingly. He even had a police officer visit the class a couple of times as a sort of discouragement tactic. Yes, most of the students in the class were black. Didn't really learn much if anything, but at least it wasn't home ec.

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
12. I'm right there with you but I am
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jul 2016

in my early 70s.

Yes, this is a BIG F**King Deal! Thanks for your heartfelt OP!

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
13. As late as the 1990's, I was told that my daughter couldn't have an appropriate math placement
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jul 2016

because she was a girl.

The middle school was set to ignore the placement recommendation that the elementary school had made, based on the work she was doing there. The principal insisted that all students benefited from standard sixth grade math. She admitted that there was a 6th grader who was taking 8th grade math, but that was different, she said, because he was a boy.

It took me a month of pushing but my daughter finally got the math she wanted. (Math, for her, was like chocolate. Reading was broccoli.) And she ended up with a PHD in engineering.

But that stupid school in 1994 wanted to tell me she couldn't take the right math class because she was a girl.

All of us have stories like this. All of us feel more hopeful because Hillary Clinton just broke that barrier. I think a huge wave of excited women will go to the polls in November.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #13)

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
25. Thank you, hamster jill!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jul 2016

Another girl was affected by this, too. The elementary school had had my daughter and her friend working together for three years, basically teaching each other. So when the middle school finally broke down about my daughter, they did for her friend, too. And that young woman went on to become a Phd physicist.

Those two were part of a math team that won the state competition a couple years in a row. So I bet they helped open the doors for more girls. That's how it works, usually.



 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
14. It's still sometimes shocking for me that people STILL THINK like that
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jul 2016

That women aren't as smart, ambitious or capable. I always took that for granted and it amazes me that other people don't even today. As I read more and more and realized how much more needed to be done, and talked to more girls and women about how they are treated in society both educationally, career-wise and personally. I hope after 8 years of Hillary that changes for the better.

But I also fear it'll be like what happened with 8 years of Obama. Just like I heard the N word more and more throughout his tenure, I fear we'll hear the C word more and more, and that misogyny will bubble up to the surface even more.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
16. Yes, yes.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jul 2016

And some of us have waited longer, with others still waiting much longer still.

I was thinking of Ruline last night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ruline-steininger-hillary-clinton_us_5797d1dae4b01180b530ad5f

Response to Skidmore (Reply #16)

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
18. Kick for Sisterhood! Let's do this for our daughters and our sons!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jul 2016

Response to Hekate (Reply #18)

Pathwalker

(6,597 posts)
20. My grandma was a suffragette, now almost 70, I hear her words
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jul 2016

echoing to me from years gone by: Make sure you vote, girl - and don't ever forget how long it took for women to get this right. Feeling her spirit this week. Miss you, wish you were here to see this.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
22. I come from a long line of independent, strong women myself.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jul 2016

Like you, I've thought of many of them this week.

Kudos to your grandma!!!!

Pathwalker

(6,597 posts)
23. It's a great week to be a woman! Our foremothers have led us here,
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jul 2016

now we must continue the fight for our daughters, granddaughters, and our sons and grandsons!
On to victory!

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
24. Thank You for sharing ....
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jul 2016

Beautiful I agree with every word !!

redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
26. I feel the same, and I'm a woman in my 60's.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jul 2016

My only wish is that my Mom could have been here to see it....

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
31. My mother is alive and I knew what to send her for her birthday this summer --
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary stuff!

ailsagirl

(22,837 posts)
27. Thank you, hamsterjill
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jul 2016

YES!! Let's DO this in November, Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



DinahMoeHum

(21,737 posts)
28. Thank you.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jul 2016

My 84-year old mother would agree with you.

mcar

(42,210 posts)
29. Fellow "woman of a certain age" here
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jul 2016

And I am right there with you, Jill. I've been in tears all week. I really didn't think it would hit me that hard.

This morning, I went to my usual water aerobics class at a gym in my Tea Party FL town. Needless to say, I don't talk politics with too many there, although most of the people are lovely human beings regardless.

One older woman came in, ran to an even older woman and said"did you see her? Did you see her?" I wandered over and sure enough, they were celebrating history! We talked about the convention till class started.

I had no clue I wasn't alone. I felt good about it all day.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
30. K&R!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jul 2016

I've been crying for days! So very excited, and happy that this historic accomplishment has FINALLY come to pass.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. +1000
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jul 2016

DFW

(54,055 posts)
34. That's how we raised our girls, too
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jul 2016

Yes, they played with dolls when they were little. But when they were ready to choose their schools and careers, we gave them unrestricted freedom and support. One is now a buyer for a major store chain in the USA and her "little" sister at age 31, is one of the top attorneys (if not THE top) in Europe in her field. Both are dual citizens and both proudly vote Democratic in every American election.

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
35. KnR. It was a special moment. Here's to fighters!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:38 AM
Jul 2016

I do so admire her grit and tenacity. She sets a great example. Nice thread!

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
36. Just be prepared for what's to come....
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:21 AM
Jul 2016
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Evolution is an excuciatingly slow process.

It is a big deal, but it's only the beginning.
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