2016 Postmortem
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Skinner
(63,645 posts)I think that we have seen Hillary Clinton for so long that it is easy for some of us to forget that this is actually a big deal.
RexCasual
(171 posts)For the smiles and the inspiration, as well. Stay enthusiastic, my friend
Spazito
(49,765 posts)Very moving and I agree with each and every word of it.
Thank you.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)In my high school in the 70s, girls were encouraged to take an advanced typing and dictation class where one of the lessons was "How to polish your fingernails."
And if you talked about attending college, there were people who said you were only going for your "Mrs." degree.
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treestar
(82,383 posts)My junior high opened Home Ec to boys and shop to girls! My year was the last one to be restricted. Women's Lib was starting to take hold.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I feel you!
And not just ANY woman, THIS woman!
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pnwmom
(108,925 posts)Seriously. Because on a couple days of the month they are low on estrogen -- like men are all of the time.
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GumboYaYa
(5,941 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)nolabear
(41,915 posts)bekkilyn
(454 posts)I agree with you. It would be a great thing for a woman to be president, BUT...
she would never be elected.
the country isn't ready for it.
there aren't any qualified candidates.
people won't accept a woman as Commander and Chief.
she wouldn't have the right sort of military experience.
Etc.
I took machine shop in high school instead of home economics. I was the only female in the class. When I arrived, the teacher asked me if I was supposed to be in the class, but didn't argue after I said yes. He turned out to be a big jerk, though not to me. He had the assumption that nearly everyone in the class was on track to be criminals so he acted accordingly. He even had a police officer visit the class a couple of times as a sort of discouragement tactic. Yes, most of the students in the class were black. Didn't really learn much if anything, but at least it wasn't home ec.
BlueMTexpat
(15,349 posts)in my early 70s.
Yes, this is a BIG F**King Deal! Thanks for your heartfelt OP!
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)because she was a girl.
The middle school was set to ignore the placement recommendation that the elementary school had made, based on the work she was doing there. The principal insisted that all students benefited from standard sixth grade math. She admitted that there was a 6th grader who was taking 8th grade math, but that was different, she said, because he was a boy.
It took me a month of pushing but my daughter finally got the math she wanted. (Math, for her, was like chocolate. Reading was broccoli.) And she ended up with a PHD in engineering.
But that stupid school in 1994 wanted to tell me she couldn't take the right math class because she was a girl.
All of us have stories like this. All of us feel more hopeful because Hillary Clinton just broke that barrier. I think a huge wave of excited women will go to the polls in November.
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pnwmom
(108,925 posts)Another girl was affected by this, too. The elementary school had had my daughter and her friend working together for three years, basically teaching each other. So when the middle school finally broke down about my daughter, they did for her friend, too. And that young woman went on to become a Phd physicist.
Those two were part of a math team that won the state competition a couple years in a row. So I bet they helped open the doors for more girls. That's how it works, usually.
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)That women aren't as smart, ambitious or capable. I always took that for granted and it amazes me that other people don't even today. As I read more and more and realized how much more needed to be done, and talked to more girls and women about how they are treated in society both educationally, career-wise and personally. I hope after 8 years of Hillary that changes for the better.
But I also fear it'll be like what happened with 8 years of Obama. Just like I heard the N word more and more throughout his tenure, I fear we'll hear the C word more and more, and that misogyny will bubble up to the surface even more.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)And some of us have waited longer, with others still waiting much longer still.
I was thinking of Ruline last night.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ruline-steininger-hillary-clinton_us_5797d1dae4b01180b530ad5f
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Pathwalker
(6,597 posts)echoing to me from years gone by: Make sure you vote, girl - and don't ever forget how long it took for women to get this right. Feeling her spirit this week. Miss you, wish you were here to see this.
hamsterjill
(15,214 posts)Like you, I've thought of many of them this week.
Kudos to your grandma!!!!
Pathwalker
(6,597 posts)now we must continue the fight for our daughters, granddaughters, and our sons and grandsons!
On to victory!
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Beautiful I agree with every word !!
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)My only wish is that my Mom could have been here to see it....
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)Hillary stuff!
ailsagirl
(22,837 posts)YES!! Let's DO this in November, Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DinahMoeHum
(21,737 posts)My 84-year old mother would agree with you.
mcar
(42,210 posts)And I am right there with you, Jill. I've been in tears all week. I really didn't think it would hit me that hard.
This morning, I went to my usual water aerobics class at a gym in my Tea Party FL town. Needless to say, I don't talk politics with too many there, although most of the people are lovely human beings regardless.
One older woman came in, ran to an even older woman and said"did you see her? Did you see her?" I wandered over and sure enough, they were celebrating history! We talked about the convention till class started.
I had no clue I wasn't alone. I felt good about it all day.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I've been crying for days! So very excited, and happy that this historic accomplishment has FINALLY come to pass.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)DFW
(54,055 posts)Yes, they played with dolls when they were little. But when they were ready to choose their schools and careers, we gave them unrestricted freedom and support. One is now a buyer for a major store chain in the USA and her "little" sister at age 31, is one of the top attorneys (if not THE top) in Europe in her field. Both are dual citizens and both proudly vote Democratic in every American election.
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)I do so admire her grit and tenacity. She sets a great example. Nice thread!
oioioi
(1,127 posts)Evolution is an excuciatingly slow process.
It is a big deal, but it's only the beginning.