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Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:13 PM

I'm getting SO tired of the simplistic "things need to change" crap

Because yes, they do but that avoids the huge issue of change for the better or worse.

Things are changing, though slowly. Do you really want to make the change back to what got us in the base economic problems? Or do you want to continue the too slow change to getting better?

I guess too many want simple slogans vs thought. It's frustrating and I hope Donnie continues his vile public.

"We need change" but not too make things worse. I am tired and will be glad to not hear Donnie again.

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Reply I'm getting SO tired of the simplistic "things need to change" crap (Original post)
uppityperson Sep 2016 OP
tonyt53 Sep 2016 #1
bmstee01 Sep 2016 #2
maxsolomon Sep 2016 #6
Hortensis Sep 2016 #3
maxsolomon Sep 2016 #4
uppityperson Sep 2016 #5
meadowlark5 Sep 2016 #7
greatauntoftriplets Sep 2016 #9
old guy Sep 2016 #12
Sunlei Sep 2016 #8
Stallion Sep 2016 #10
TRUMP-BS-DETECTOR Sep 2016 #11
jalan48 Sep 2016 #13

Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:14 PM

1. Simple minds need simple responses.

 

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:15 PM

2. I don't want change, I want growth.

We are growing in the right direction. Maybe we can accelerate it and tie up some lose ends, fix some things along the way, but blowing up the system doesn't seem reasonable.

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Response to bmstee01 (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

6. Growth is not infinite

it has to be sustainable. and the planet is having a hard time with that - we're starting to bump up against the carrying capacity of the earth.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:18 PM

3. Oh, yes . Arm-chair rioters smash indiscriminately

at some undefined "the estabhsment" much the same as hoodlums on the street smash businesses they need in their own neighborhoods simply because they're there. For many, Trump's largely a fat orange rock.

Whenever I hear people talking about "change" and "the establishment" instead of specific changes and specific names, I know they're indulgently irresponsible and ignorant fools.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

4. what needs to change is the GOP's obstruction

what Dump voters think is "Change" is 100% Republican control of the government - with 60 votes in the Senate.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

5. +++++++. Thank you

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:23 PM

7. What drives me nuts is people need to be made "enthusiastic" to go vote

Have we really become so apathetic that we can't simply look at a situation and determine that it's important enough to go vote? Are we all that blah and unconcerned that we "need" to be made excited and enthusiastic? I hate that and the constant analysis of demographic enthusiasm. I can't tell you how many elections I've voted in and very few have I been excited and enthusiastic about the candidate. I'd say I'm driven to vote more out of dread and fear than because a candidate makes me excited. I could care less if they are as boring as a post - if the candidate mostly aligns with my views, I'll go vote for them. Especially if the alternative is something Trump like, I'll go out and vote.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:34 PM

9. Great post.

I remember turning 21 and becoming eligible to vote (this was back in the Dark Ages when the age was still 21) and couldn't wait to go downtown to the Federal building in Chicago to register. And I've voted ever since.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:43 PM

12. Yes.

It is frustrating that we constantly have to prod and beg Democrats to go vote. No Democrat should be sitting out any election and this one in particular. Even when HRC is in the White House, unless we control the Senate and make gains in the House it will be more obstruction for the next 4 years.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

8. The last knee-jerk, instant change the USA had were bushes 9-11 terror laws. instant changes suck.

Like Obama always says, USA is like an Ocean liner. A small change in course adds up over time.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:38 PM

10. THINGS NEED TO CHANGE: Democrats Need to Vote in Elections other Than Deneral Elections

we sit out off year elections and allow Republicans to stop any momentum for real change

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:39 PM

11. REGARDING CHANGE

 


Don't you guy's find it amazing not a single tv reporter or pundit has even hinted that the
term change may mean having the first woman president in American history? I don't
buy for a second what the media feeds us daily. They lie all the time to get ratings
for the network they work for and to get more popular on their twitter accounts. Its shameful
how they promote themselves like whores.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:52 PM

13. Not sure how well your argument works with climate change.

I'd argue radical change is going to be forced upon us, one way or another. Climate deniers don't think so, but the vast majority of climatologists world-wide say radical change is needed now to avert a major environmental collapse.

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