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relayerbob

(6,508 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:18 PM Oct 2016

Trump cannot be replaced at this point.

A - The Constitution does not provide for political parties, the elections are about individuals. There isn't even a requirement to have both candidates from the same party or be related in any way whatsoever, and there have been instances where the President and VP were from different parties. The States have rules about who gets on ballots and how long ahead of time they have to apply, they can't just put someone else on the ballot without following those procedures. To do anything else would result in endless lawsuits, especially if the name Donald J Trump wins. This isn't a matter whether the ballots can be reprinted, etc. All deadlines have passed. If States allowed that, then anyone could go to court and say they have a claim to be able to run for President at the last minute. Hell, even the Green Party/Jill Stein didn't make the requirements in many states.

B - Donald Trump's ego seems unlikely to allow him to quit, even if the rules allowed it. If the GOP denounces him and says someone else is running, and he stays in the race, then if "Donald J Trump" wins, regardless of party affiliation or denouncement, who is the actual winner? Donald J Trump.

C - Who would be stupid enough to try to run? It would only make them look really bad, unprepared and damage them personally. 31 days isn't enough time to even start to get a campaign staff together, much less create something resembling a winning team. The last debate would be Hillary arguing against an empty chair, even if it was occupied by some clown.

D - Changes now only make the GOP look worse than it already does, and would result in across the board losses as more people realized that the GOP can't even run a race, much less a country. It would be chaos.

E - Trump won the primary election by a large margin. How does the GOP leadership tell those voters to go away? Many of them are quite rabid and support Trump even after all this. Those supporters either stay home (meaning millions of voters don't vote in down-ballot races) or they start a civil war/conflict that can be blamed entirely on the GOP, not "Hillary cheated and won" BS excuses.

F - Voting has started in many, if not most, states. How would they recall ballots or otherwise amend those votes. Can't and won't happen.

At best the GOP could ask for a write-in candidate rather than Trump, but many states don't even allow write-ins, or have restrictions on how those can be applied.

Folks, all this talk is nice talk, maybe makes the GOP feel good about themselves, even though none of this should be a surprise to them. But it is irrelevant. The die is cast, the deed is done. Get out the vote and let's turn this defeat into a complete and utter rout.

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Trump cannot be replaced at this point. (Original Post) relayerbob Oct 2016 OP
RNC can' t replace Trump with anyone else at this stage. Kaleva Oct 2016 #1
Yep relayerbob Oct 2016 #6
There is no rational way to replace Trump Txbluedog Oct 2016 #2
No matter who they ran, the odds against that are YUGE relayerbob Oct 2016 #4
I just don't understand why anyone suggests that possibility whatthehey Oct 2016 #9
I am impressed. You managed to use "Trump" Persondem Oct 2016 #11
He's like an awful tattoo from a drunken weekend... tinrobot Oct 2016 #3
Good one! relayerbob Oct 2016 #5
I think that's what Benjamin Ginsberg was saying too bluestateguy Oct 2016 #7
I think he's the guy that inspired the Brooks Brothers Riot Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #10
The GOP will just have to stand there Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #8

Kaleva

(36,145 posts)
1. RNC can' t replace Trump with anyone else at this stage.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

His name will remain on the ballot even if he declared he was dropping out.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
2. There is no rational way to replace Trump
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

But remember being rational has never been a republican strong suit. They might be hoping to split the vote to deny any of the candidates 270 EV and thus have the republican controlled house decide. Even though they should really be cutting their losses for the WH this year and concentrating on down ticket races.

relayerbob

(6,508 posts)
4. No matter who they ran, the odds against that are YUGE
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:34 PM
Oct 2016

The GOP best hope is that "Donald J Trump" wins and the party can convince the electors to vote for their guy. But that won't happen.

Their best solution (and as you point out rational isn't a strong GOP suit) is to pretend they have no Presidential candidate and focus entirely on down-ticket races. Either way, GOP voter interest and turnout drops.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
9. I just don't understand why anyone suggests that possibility
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:42 PM
Oct 2016

Please tell how dividing the Republican vote will do anything but result in a massive EV landslide for the Dems.

Everywhere that is, say, 55 - 45 R will see that 55 split and the 45 essentially untouched. All you need is for a "Real Republican" candidate to pull 11% of the vote from Trump and the state goes D instead.

Swing states? Even worse. Let's say Trump ekes out OH by a point or two. White knight R comes in and anything he pulls off Trump keeps it in the D column instead.

They need to get votes from Clinton, not from Trump, and splitting the R vote between the loons and the Chamber of Commerce won't do that in any appreciable numbers, but will split the naturally R vote enough to throw any even vaguely close red state to D.

Split the R vote? They MIGHT if they did it perfectly, keep WY WV and OK, and that's it. This is not an election where you need 50%+ to get the EVs. TX going 42 Clinton 32 Trump 26 Cruz won't throw shit to the House other than a 400+ EV margin President Clinton with the best popular vote mandate since Washington.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. I think that's what Benjamin Ginsberg was saying too
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:38 PM
Oct 2016

and he's the top Republican elections lawyer in the country.

Blue Idaho

(4,987 posts)
10. I think he's the guy that inspired the Brooks Brothers Riot
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:42 PM
Oct 2016

In Florida during the "hanging chad" recount in the Bush v Gore election. He probably knows a way around this problem but hates Trump so much he's keep quiet.

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