2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRomney is Gonna Get It
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/5/28/193635/250Romney is Gonna Get It
by BooMan
Mon May 28th, 2012 at 07:36:35 PM EST
John Helleman:
The Obama effort at disqualifying Romney will go beyond painting him as excessively conservative, however. It will aim to cast him as an avatar of revanchism. Hes the fifties, he is retro, he is backward, and we are forwardthats the basic construct, says a top Obama strategist. If youre a woman, youre Hispanic, youre young, or youve gotten left out, you look at Romney and say, This fucking guy is gonna take us back to the way it always was, and guess what? Ive never been part of that.?
Not to mention he thinks corporations are people, doesn't worry about poor people cuz they have a safety net, and keeps his money in Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts. Not to mention that he does weird and vaguely sociopathic things like holding down a gay kid and cutting his hair or strapping his dog to the roof of his car for a 12-hour drive on the interstate. Not to mention that he has flip-flop-flipped on almost every issue under the sun and actually tried to "take a lot of credit" for the auto bailout he opposed to anyone who would listen.
When it comes to Mitt Romney, there is so much negative to say that there almost isn't enough time between now and the election to say it all. I mean, this is a guy who employed undocumented Mexicans for years to do his landscaping and then decided his immigration policy would be to make their lives so miserable that they'd just leave on their own. Is that classy, or what?
liberal N proud
(60,300 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The Romneybot has some serious character issues that will be central to this campaign.
:kick:
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Maybe Obama is saving his ammo for after the Repuke convention. I hope so.
I can't stand looking at Robme's blank face, let alone listen to what he says when he opens his piehole.
elleng
(130,130 posts)'hit John McCain hard four years agorunning more negative ads than any campaign in history?'
Hope whatever they/we do will overcome the thievery.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Unfamiliar with the term. Had to look it up.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism#section_1
groundloop
(11,488 posts)Do you get the impression someone is trying to awe us with his knowledge of the arcane? A real "word nerd".
mikekohr
(2,312 posts)Obama and 25 in '12
annabanana
(52,791 posts)I don't see anything in bold in the OP that isn't verifiable.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Sugar-coated evil is what's negative. Jesus loves you! ( *urk*)
JohnnyRingo
(18,581 posts)With republican moderates all but extinct, they speak with a loud singular voice when they say:
"If your gay, I'm not on your side, vote for the other guy".
"If you're poor, pull yourself up because we refuse to help you"
"If you're of a minority race, we'll make you a second class citizen"
"If you belong to a union, you are our mortal enemy to the end"
"If you're pro-choice, we'll take that way from you any way we can"
"If your kid attends a public school, we'll work to defund it"
Then all I hear is: "This election will be very close".
Why is that?
n2doc
(47,953 posts)"If you're in the military, we will start new wars in the middle east and refuse to pay for them"
"If you're a veteran, we will cut your benefits and medical care"
"If you're are not yet retired, we will cut your Social Security and medicare to give tax cuts to the wealthy"
The election is close because 1, there are a lot of people who hate the idea of a black man running the country, 2, things have gotten only a little better during the last 4 years, 3, people have short memories, and 4, many people are brainwashed by Faux and Rush.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I always fear the dems will go too on the scum bucket
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)Let'see some action ja@ckson!!!!
This is no dress rehearsal .....
Bring
it
on !!!
renate
(13,776 posts)No point in making all of these excellent points old news and yawn-worthy too long before the election... Romney needs to be crushed, not to be allowed to just fade away. That will have a beneficial effect on congressional races, too.
Happydayz
(112 posts)and Obama may want to hold his ammunition until after the conventions. But there are anti-Obama ads running every day here in FL. These ads don't mention Mittens at all, they just lam-blast Obama about the economy, national debt and gas prices. With no Obama ads to counter these negative ads, things are already unbalanced here. Obama, should run some ads down here in FL, not necessarily Bain ads, but something anything to attack mittens.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)it is a rule in politics -- define your opponent before your opponent can define himself.
Romney is now defined as "out of touch, casual liar, vulture capitalist, draft dodger hawk, miserable high school bully, empty corporate suit" but most of that was done by the never-ending GOP primary.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Oh, man, bashing Romney non-stop for 5 months about all of the lies he told over the course of the last 12 years is like a political fantasy come true.
I hope he names Gingrich to be his veep, just to make it more comical.
gopiscrap
(23,674 posts)that would really make it comical!!!
liberalnationalist
(170 posts)depress turnout for Raw Money
JustAnotherGen
(31,681 posts)I really really hope so! Got hope? I do.
I hope the Obama campaign tells the truth . . . That's why I'll laugh at Bill Maher's Wifer Controversy in the comfort of my home . . . But I know we have plent of rope to hang Romney with without jokes alluding to the beginning years of his religion.
sellitman
(11,596 posts)The purges and the vote counting will make this a much closer race than anyone on the left cares to address.
Everything else is virtually meaningless.
liberalnationalist
(170 posts)like Gore and Kerry did....Raw Money is going down
politicasista
(14,128 posts)than most here ever will.
Under the bus you go Gore and Kerry. Go figure.
siligut
(12,272 posts)He must lie to himself about who he is.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,355 posts)seems to be the main GOP *strategy* for 2012. I don't necessarily believe, however, it's going to drive people to the polls enough to vote for somebody like Romney because most people don't have the same blinding rage and hatred towards President Obama that they do. They may not agree with all of his policies but that seems to be mainly because they think most of his policies don't go far enough, not that they go too far and I don't sense an overwhelming desire for the Republican's preferred economic policies and I think that that will become clearer as the two parties hold their conventions and, particularly, when the debates start and people can see what each side is pitching and I sincerely believe that they will prefer President Obama's policies over R.MONEY's.
mollerjay
(21 posts)loses by the largest margin in history.
kitt6
(516 posts)All that money and our stupid media is keeping him propped up. He wasn't vetted because the repubs were in such a desperate hurry. There are some strange things to come! Got to go Martin Bashir's on. Love him.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)They knew it would be an uphill battle and the GOP would rather spend the money regaining the Senate and holding on to the house. That way they control congress when 2016 comes around and the field is open again.
paparush
(7,964 posts)dtom67
(634 posts)The Republicans are gonna spend a billion + dollars on this campaign. They will use local-level guerrilla tactics . Robocalls to tell you that the ' Gay-lovin forren(sic) born Kenyan' in the White House will ; take away your guns,take away your money, and turn your children into homosexuals. Really, they will try to appeal to any prejudice they can.
They do it because it works.
I thought Gore and Kerry were shoo-ins.
Don't underestimate the GOP
Not only can We lose, there is a good chance that we will.
just ask Al and John .
Iceberg Louie
(190 posts)Gore also thought he was a shoo-in, and his campaign showed it. Bear in mind, too, that he actually won 2000; it was the Bush dynasty that hijacked it out from under him. As for Kerry, for all his good qualities, he was ultimately (in the eyes of the swing states, anyway) an unrelatable, overprivileged Massachusetts stiff and a flip-flopper.
Sound familiar?
And Dubya somehow still managed to convey the image of a "guy you'd want to have a beer with" to enough useful idiots. Romney has none of this going for him. Don't get me wrong, there's still a very real possibility that he can take this one, and I put nothing past the GOP these days, especially in the wake of the debacle in Wisconsin. But I still think they called this one a loss back in January, and are focusing more on 2016 at this point.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)That's when it's ON!!!!
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012!!
book_worm
(15,951 posts)quaker bill
(8,223 posts)Because there are so few real places to lodge complaint against BHO where it is not in their platform to do far worse.
Cary
(11,746 posts)And it will be interesting to see how they respond.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Telling the TRUTH is not going "negative" it is simply telling the GOD DAMN TRUTH!!
90-percent
(6,828 posts)It resonates and reverberates to the core of my soul and what I believe.
Could not have said it better myself.
-90% Jimmy
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Sorry people are still hating on Senator Kerry just to praise how smart President Obama is, but this is a good post.
Texas-Limerick
(93 posts)Romney:
I could make a merger that devours
Hobnobbing with world powers
Golfing in Bahrain
But to get elected I'll turn the tables
Where would you buy your staples
If I hadn't worked at Bain
Who'd bust unions with efficiency
Reducing cost and deficiency
For a capital gain
Would I look like a robber baron
In this Armani suit I'm wearin'
If I hadn't worked at Bain
I'm looking forward to the general
When my old politics become ephemeral.
And stop causin' so much pain
but I'll still keep you guessin' with
Which entitlements I'd be messin' with
If I hadn't worked at Bain
Obama:
I see you have some apprehension
Totally lacking comprehension
Of other people's pain
Tho your Daddy was a liberal
You're a diff'rant individual
Karl Rove controls your brain
I know what you're athinkin'
They'll never allow another Lincoln
Your party's not the same
Up not down would be sensational
But his pull is gravitational
Karl Rove controls your brain
But no matter whose water I'm afetchin'
It's not me who keeps goose-steppin'
when others are in pain
If schadenfreude makes you merry
Go ahead and stay a dingleberry
Karl Rove controls your brain
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)NinetyNinePercenter
(7 posts)Romney may be the scariest right winger since Jerry Falwell. He looks and acts like a racist Nazi. I will leave the country if he gets elected.