Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:34 PM

upaloopa (11,417 posts)

In the future are we going to say Michelle Obama was responsible for TTP? Seems Hillary is to blame

for Welfare reform and DOMA. Why isn't Hillary given credit for the balanced budget and all the jobs created during Bill Clinton's administration and the great economy passed on to GWB?

Holding the First Lady responsible for her husband's administration is disingenuous at best. But if you do hold her responsible give her credit for the good things too.

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In the future are we going to say Michelle Obama was responsible for TTP? Seems Hillary is to blame (Original post)	upaloopa	Nov 2015	OP
Clinton has publicly stated her support for welfare reform and DOMA.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#1
Seriously, the level of discourse around here is more irrational than I've ever seen n/t	arcane1	Nov 2015	#4
You forgot 9/11	Politicalboi	Nov 2015	#2
If she publicly endorses those programs, and later runs for office, do we ignore her actual words?	arcane1	Nov 2015	#3
Then give her credit for a balanced budget and job creation	upaloopa	Nov 2015	#5
If you have evidence of my "disingenuousness" then let's see it.	arcane1	Nov 2015	#9
Let them keep connecting her to one of the most popular politicians in history.	NCTraveler	Nov 2015	#6
I look at her record of what she actually had some authority as Senator to legislate...	luvspeas	Nov 2015	#7
How did you know? I am tired of all the hit pieces on HC. Like dealing with school yard kids. nt	kelliekat44	Nov 2015	#8
Only if she runs for office. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2015	#10

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:39 PM

jeff47 (26,549 posts)

1. Clinton has publicly stated her support for welfare reform and DOMA.

Heck, "It Takes a Village" talks about how great welfare reform is via discussing "the dignity of work" at length.

Clinton isn't "responsible", in that she did not pass the policies. She is responsible for her own statements and book supporting those policies.

If Michelle Obama writes a book about how great the TPP is, then she's responsible for saying how great the TPP is.

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Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:42 PM

arcane1 (38,613 posts)

4. Seriously, the level of discourse around here is more irrational than I've ever seen n/t

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:39 PM

Politicalboi (15,189 posts)

2. You forgot 9/11

Besides, Faux Noise AKA National Enquirer has Hillary dead in 6 months and in jail soon.

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Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:41 PM

arcane1 (38,613 posts)

3. If she publicly endorses those programs, and later runs for office, do we ignore her actual words?

Nice strawman you have there.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:44 PM

upaloopa (11,417 posts)

5. Then give her credit for a balanced budget and job creation

You are disingenuous as I said

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:53 PM

arcane1 (38,613 posts)

9. If you have evidence of my "disingenuousness" then let's see it.

Put up or shut up.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:44 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

6. Let them keep connecting her to one of the most popular politicians in history.

Hillary is going to do it as well. The connection will pay off huge for her. It was universally understood Gore wasn't making a good decision by disassociating. It would be even more foolish in todays climate.

I'll say it. Hey Americans, you get Bill and Hillary!!!!!!

This connection is extremely positive with the American people overall, excluding the rabid right. I love it.

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Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:48 PM

luvspeas (1,883 posts)