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QC

(26,371 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:14 PM May 2016

Hillary's Internal Polling Must Be Abysmal

given how frantically her fanz and the brockpuppets and the corporate media are pumping up the Nevada story.

What does it say when The Inevitable Nominee is sweating it so much at the very end of a primary campaign?

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Hillary's Internal Polling Must Be Abysmal (Original Post) QC May 2016 OP
No doubt. She's going to lose both states tonight... Ned_Devine May 2016 #1
That would be something! appalachiablue May 2016 #4
"Inevitable" tk2kewl May 2016 #2
Exactly. If they thought they had this in the bag, she wouldn't have had to STEAL BERNIE DELEGATES in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #3
QC—Good point! … CobaltBlue May 2016 #5
Ssyes she is one weak candidate to me. spinboas May 2016 #6
Likely. nt silvershadow May 2016 #7
At statistical tie in a state she won by 35% in 2008 and a blowout loss out west Feeling the Bern May 2016 #8
Wait a minute...are you suggesting that people other than QC May 2016 #9
Strange huh Feeling the Bern May 2016 #10
one of her fans last eve LiberalElite May 2016 #17
The HER Campaign can forget about... LovingA2andMI May 2016 #11
Bernie will be the nom :D deepestblue May 2016 #12
it means she's losing dana_b May 2016 #13
She's worred about the superdelegates. winter is coming May 2016 #14
They can rig the vote for her at every turn. But THEY know the real numbers. mhatrw May 2016 #15
Honestly, I wonder if they're trying to come up with a pretext for locking QC May 2016 #18
It will be interesting to see whether she'll keep her word about doing a May debate. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #16
Will pointed questions regarding the FBI investigation be asked? Babel_17 May 2016 #20
We'll likely never know, as I expect her to chicken out. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #21
They can't talk away her current negative numbers Babel_17 May 2016 #19
It's like they're not thinking past the primaries. QC May 2016 #22
Yes this is exactly right Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #23
 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
1. No doubt. She's going to lose both states tonight...
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

...and that will be her karma for all of this.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
3. Exactly. If they thought they had this in the bag, she wouldn't have had to STEAL BERNIE DELEGATES
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

in Nevada and attempt to STEAL delegates in the Democrats Abroad convention - but FAILED because her THUGS weren't in this sham of a country, so they didn't get away with it!

Her internal polls are in the TOILET.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
5. QC—Good point! …
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

A campaign that is winning does not pull a stunt like the one which went on Nevada.

It sounds like Hillary Clinton and her campaign are in trouble. And this move by them was desperate.

I wrote it before; and I will repeat:

If the 2016 United States presidential election results in a Republican pickup of the presidency—for Donald Trump—and the Democrats nominated Hillary Clinton…I will blame Hillary Clinton; her campaign; the Democratic Party Establishment (every one of those party officeholders, current and former, who endorsed Hillary even before the Iowa caucuses); the "news" media (which includes every fake liberal and progressive); and, in anticipation of the craven attempts to accuse the left, I will blame this on every person who voted the nomination to Hillary Clinton. (They are not progressives. They certainly are not liberals.)

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
8. At statistical tie in a state she won by 35% in 2008 and a blowout loss out west
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:28 AM
May 2016

Now, in the general, she will have to deal with independents who trust a coiled up rattlesnake ready to strike more than they trust HRC.

If the Dems nomination her and shut us out, it will be 1968 all over again and we're looking at President Trump.

And the Hillbots will blame Sanders for it.

QC

(26,371 posts)
9. Wait a minute...are you suggesting that people other than
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:33 AM
May 2016

registered Democrats will be allowed to vote in November?

That will certainly make things harder for Hillary!

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
10. Strange huh
Reply to QC (Reply #9)
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

Considering her campaign has told about 45% of the Democratic Party to go fuck themselves and that they don't really need independents at all. . .oh, and liberals can go to hell too. . .

She's alienated about 60% of the voting population in the country.

I predict a very LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW turnout in November.

Normal Republicans with a small amount of brain will stay home
Liberals will stay home
Bible Thumpers will stay home
Sanders supporters will stay home
Libertarians will stay home
Most independents will stay home

It will be head count of the Corportist (Democrat) vs. the Racist (Republican) and who has more true supporters.

If things don't change, I see Donald Trump being our next president. I see a fractured Democratic convention where Bernie supporters will be shut out. I see a brokered Republican convention where the establishment will try to screw Donald.

And who loses? The American voter, the American democracy and the experiment dies.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
17. one of her fans last eve
Reply to QC (Reply #9)
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:27 PM
May 2016

was crowing about her winning 11 of 11 closed primaries. Unfortunately I had to tell them that was meaningless due to the independents who can vote in the GE.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
11. The HER Campaign can forget about...
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:52 AM
May 2016

High Turnout in November. That is a FACT. Bookmark this post. And low turnout means....Well, another reality show is not in His Future anytime soon, except the reality show on the USA....if that makes sense

deepestblue

(349 posts)
12. Bernie will be the nom :D
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:28 AM
May 2016

"Our goal is to go in to the convention as strong as we can and come out the Democratic nominee." Bernie Sanders 5/16/16

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
14. She's worred about the superdelegates.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:50 AM
May 2016

In a typical election year, she would have crushed Bernie in February, yet he's still winning states and delegates. Doesn't make her look like a strong candidate for the GE, especially when you factor in her unfavorables, how she and Bernie stack up against Trump, and the FBI investigation.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
15. They can rig the vote for her at every turn. But THEY know the real numbers.
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

And the real numbers frighten the holy hell out of them.

QC

(26,371 posts)
18. Honestly, I wonder if they're trying to come up with a pretext for locking
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

Bernie people out of the convention. You know, because they're so violent and everything and will try to kill everyone if they're allowed in.

That way there won't be the televised spectacle of booing at the coronation.

Sure, sounds extreme, but there's not much I would put past these people after what we've seen these past few months.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
20. Will pointed questions regarding the FBI investigation be asked?
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

What answers can be plausibly given, and accepted? Where will things stand regarding people testifying by that time?

Will it be worse to be seen as dodging questions by avoiding the debate?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
19. They can't talk away her current negative numbers
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

After they go lower, to the very floor inhabited by W and Nixon near the ends of their tenures, it will be an endless topic of discussion.

There's no way the issues of the server, and The Clinton Foundation, won't end up inflicting more damage on the numbers for honesty and trustworthiness. The few in the media with some honesty and a willingness to express it will reflect how gobsmackingly bad it is to have numbers like those while running for the nomination to be the Democratic candidate for POTUS.

QC

(26,371 posts)
22. It's like they're not thinking past the primaries.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:18 PM
May 2016

Do they not know there's a big election in November?

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