Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:39 AM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

Hill's "most admired woman" status continues to sink, from 21 to 13;loss of 38%

I just researched the percentage of approval Hillary Clinton has received in Gallup's annual "Most admired man/woman" rankings. My curiosity was piqued by the following statement in the Gallup press release:

Both their numbers are down a little bit: Obama pulled 17 percent against his average of 23 percent, and Hillary Clinton a 13 percent against her average of 16 percent,

http://www.gallup.com/poll/187922/clinton-admired-woman-record-20th-time.aspx?g_source=Most%20admired%20woman%202015&g_medium=search&g_campaign=tiles

Whenever statisticians start throwing averages around, you are wise to look more closely.
So I went to the Gallup website and researched Hill's numbers from 2007 to this year.

Why 2007?
Because at the end of 2007 she was all geared up and heading into the 2008 primary election against Obama. She'd have been benefitting from tons of advertising and publicity - as she is now. But apparently the publicity was more favorable back in 2007, and also the advertising - none of the phony, "Luke, I am (just like) your Abuela." nonsense.

Because in 2007, she got 18% of the vote.
But, this year? only 13%.
From 2009 to 2013, she was Secretary of State under Obama, and his popularity carried over to her.

I know her supporters are anxious for any encouraging news, but pesky facts?

Her rating is 5 POINTS LOWER than at this point in her 2008 campaign, and that represents a drop of TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT.

Her rating is EIGHT POINTS LOWER than her 2012 high of 21. That's a drop of THIRTY EIGHT PERCENT.

I know her supporters are getting desperate for any encouraging news, but pesky fact? Her popularity is 5% LOWER than at this point in her 2008 campaign.

So here are the numbers:
2007 - 18%
2008 - 20%
2009 - 16% (with Sarah Palin on her heels with 15%)
2010 - 17%
2011 - 17%
2012 - 21%
2013 - 15%
2014 - 12%
2015 - 13%

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Hill's "most admired woman" status continues to sink, from 21 to 13;loss of 38% (Original post)	Divernan	Dec 2015	OP
No matter if Student Clinton thinks	JackInGreen	Dec 2015	#1
I'd admire her a lot more if she'd end her campaign and throw her support to Bernie.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#2
Won't happen as long as she's still milking $$$$ from fundraising.	Divernan	Dec 2015	#3
The kicking and screaming hasn't started, yet. It will be months before we get to that	Proserpina	Dec 2015	#5
Secretary of State was her consolation prize last time	Proserpina	Dec 2015	#4
IMO, it was more of a strategic move on the part of Clinton	Nyan	Dec 2015	#7
First ambassador to the Esteemed Principality of Sealand	Scootaloo	Dec 2015	#9
Great catch, Divernan.	bvf	Dec 2015	#6
Out of 824 surveyed, only 107 chose HRC.	Divernan	Dec 2015	#8
But consider, in this "post-feminist" age, how many living women of note can you name?	Proserpina	Dec 2015	#10
Not sure why this is relevant n/t	eridani	Dec 2015	#11
Because HRC supporters on DU are deceptively making much of it	Divernan	Dec 2015	#12

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:41 AM

JackInGreen (2,975 posts)

1. No matter if Student Clinton thinks

Thinks her friend in the student body office Deb might arrange for her senior year,the kid from Vermont is winning homecoming.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:42 AM

Scuba (53,475 posts)

2. I'd admire her a lot more if she'd end her campaign and throw her support to Bernie.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:43 AM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

3. Won't happen as long as she's still milking $$$$ from fundraising.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:05 PM

Proserpina (2,352 posts)

5. The kicking and screaming hasn't started, yet. It will be months before we get to that

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:04 PM

Proserpina (2,352 posts)

4. Secretary of State was her consolation prize last time

I'm trying to imagine what would work this time...

No Supreme Court! No Cabinet! What's left? Ambassador to the UN? That's a favorite spot to stick supernumerary people that are owed something. Or any ambassadorship that gets her out of the country and away from Bill... to the EU, perhaps...lots of little countries close together, great speaking opportunities...

I suppose ambassador to Libya would be too embarrassing...

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 01:41 PM

Nyan (1,192 posts)

7. IMO, it was more of a strategic move on the part of Clinton

Obama and Clinton seem to have had an understanding where Obama gets full support from Clinton's connections -the congress and Wall Streets and the lobbyists- in exchange for Clinton getting an opportunity to varnish her brand as someone capable of being a commander-in-chief. All a political calculation for 2016.
I think if Obama liked her, he would have given her VP spot.
But she wouldn't have liked being in the shadow of Obama anyway, so...I guess it all worked out great for them.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

Scootaloo (25,699 posts)

9. First ambassador to the Esteemed Principality of Sealand

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:56 PM

bvf (6,604 posts)

6. Great catch, Divernan.

This should be repeated in the other threads as well.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 01:49 PM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

8. Out of 824 surveyed, only 107 chose HRC.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/187922/clinton-admired-woman-record-20th-time.aspx?g_source=Most%20admired%20woman%202015&g_medium=search&g_campaign=tiles

Survey Methods

Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Dec. 2-6, 2015, with a random sample of 824 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting.

Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 60% cellphone respondents and 40% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:41 PM

Proserpina (2,352 posts)

10. But consider, in this "post-feminist" age, how many living women of note can you name?

Carly Fiorina, Gloria Steinem, and good old Phyllis Schlafley, still alive after all those hate-soaked years, the infamous Nancy Pelosi, Barbra, Angela Lansbury, Judy Collins and Joan Baez...and a bunch of young "artists" of limited ability and less familiarity...

The economy has not been kind to women of late. If your last name isn't Walton, forget it.

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 07:58 PM

eridani (51,907 posts)

11. Not sure why this is relevant n/t

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Response to eridani (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:01 PM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

12. Because HRC supporters on DU are deceptively making much of it

as part of the Clinton campaign mandate of discouraging Sanders supporters and suppressing voter turnout for him in the primary.

It is common practice on DU to compare polling numbers of Bernie vs. Hillary at given points in time with Obama vs. Hillary at comparable times in primary election races.

My post is aimed at documenting that HRC is significantly less popular during this primary than she was in 2007-2008.

A drop of 38% in popularity seems extremely significant to me.

Why do you feel the need to minimize it? This IS the Bernie Sanders group.

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