
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:00 PM
Towlie (5,119 posts)
I'm considering switching from Kamela Harris to Elizabeth Warren.
I'm considering switching from Kamala Harris to Elizabeth Warren, largely due to this:
‘I Believe in Capitalism’: Kamala Harris Courts Big Donors in the Hamptons. And... Kamala Harris raises over $1 million at Hamptons and Martha's Vineyard fundraisers One of the Hamptons events was hosted by public relations executive Michael Kempner. That gathering raised double than the campaign's original goal and had more than 150 people attend, according to those briefed on the matter. Tickets ranged from $1,000 to $2,800. While at the events, Harris picked up a few new wealthy supporters and they are expected to host other money-making events for her in New York next month.
On the other hand, Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, leading lights of the Democrats’ progressive wing, weren’t around. They’ve pledged not to take big-dollar donations, at least during the primary season.
But maybe I'm just reluctant to accept something that's an inescapable, political, reality.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Author | Time | Post |
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Towlie | Aug 2019 | OP |
Merlot | Aug 2019 | #1 | |
cilla4progress | Aug 2019 | #2 | |
BillyBobBrilliant | Aug 2019 | #3 | |
oldsoftie | Aug 2019 | #7 | |
BillyBobBrilliant | Aug 2019 | #16 | |
totodeinhere | Aug 2019 | #4 | |
elleng | Aug 2019 | #10 | |
Bradshaw3 | Aug 2019 | #5 | |
Funtatlaguy | Aug 2019 | #6 | |
oldsoftie | Aug 2019 | #8 | |
qazplm135 | Aug 2019 | #13 | |
bluedye33139 | Aug 2019 | #9 | |
nbsmom | Aug 2019 | #17 | |
calguy | Aug 2019 | #11 | |
AtheistCrusader | Aug 2019 | #14 | |
calguy | Aug 2019 | #15 | |
TreasonousBastard | Aug 2019 | #12 |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:09 PM
Merlot (9,229 posts)
1. I know how you feel. I do in a way think it's political reality
yet at the same time, Sanders and Warren are making it work without doing this during the primary.
I'm trying to make my decision based on policy, and so far I've heard more policy that I like from Warren, and I don't like Harris's health care plan. But, I also see Harris as being a really strong candidate on the issues they are trying best to tarnish her image on, namely law and order. I like her passion and intellect, not that Warren is lacking in either! Touch choice, nice that we have such a tough choice though, right? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:16 PM
cilla4progress (20,096 posts)
2. I did it.
Last week.
![]() Love Kamala. But feel like it's Warren's moment... based yes, on policy, as well as presentation. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:19 PM
BillyBobBrilliant (715 posts)
3. When I heard her (Kamala) say
She would back Israel and the apartheid state... I was done with her.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BillyBobBrilliant (Reply #3)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:29 PM
oldsoftie (9,297 posts)
7. Since she never said "i back Israel & the apartheid state", you should come back to her.
The Palestinians have time & again walked from reasonable deals since Clinton was President.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to oldsoftie (Reply #7)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:00 PM
BillyBobBrilliant (715 posts)
16. I was NEVER with her
I won't make a decision until the field narrows more.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:20 PM
totodeinhere (12,714 posts)
4. No need to make any decisions yet. I'm keeping my options open.
I may not decide whom I will support until right before the convention opens. In the meantime I'm making generic contributions to the DNC rather than to any particular candidate.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to totodeinhere (Reply #4)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:32 PM
elleng (117,962 posts)
10. Ditto, and not deciding til primary time here;
not making contributions ('cause can't really afford what I'd like to do.)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:20 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,301 posts)
5. I look at several factors but mostly do they walk the talk
Warren definitely does that in the area of economic equality (an issue I think will be front and center) with her past legislation and role in creating the CFPB. Harris' past actions and comments have me unsure of exactly where she stands on several issues, and what she would do if elected.
As Warren has said, we need real structural change and I believe she is the one who has specific, doable proposals to meet the challenges we face. Too many pols have been worried about a seat at the table for the ones who have been feasting there for far too long. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:28 PM
Funtatlaguy (9,853 posts)
6. I love both of them. Maybe Harris as AttGen?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #6)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:30 PM
oldsoftie (9,297 posts)
8. Certainly would know the ropes
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #6)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:49 PM
qazplm135 (7,239 posts)
13. why?
There's no way AG isn't a step down from Senator.
If she doesn't make it this time, she can stay a Senator and try again 4-8 years from now. There are dozens of prime career prosecutors who could become AG and do a great job at it. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:30 PM
bluedye33139 (1,453 posts)
9. I also am open to Warren
To be honest, there is not a single candidate running that I have serious objections to on policy grounds.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:15 PM
nbsmom (578 posts)
17. Agree. Except, as Stephanie Miller says,
“Not you, Tulsi.”
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:37 PM
calguy (3,667 posts)
11. I don't have to switch.
I've supported Biden from the start. I like many of the others, including Kamala and Elizabeth, but Biden is the one who can BEST get the job done.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to calguy (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:49 PM
AtheistCrusader (33,982 posts)
14. I remain unconvinced.
I think Warren can go the distance, and has the necessary know-how in the financial areas that challenge us the most right now.
Even healthcare boils down to a fiscal issue. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:55 PM
calguy (3,667 posts)
15. She's a good woman
I just think Joe gives us our best chance. Intelligent minds can respectfully disagree. Either one would be a good president.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Towlie (Original post)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:40 PM
TreasonousBastard (41,289 posts)
12. Why? What possible difference could it make now? And $1,000 tickets are not exactly from...
Millionaire's Row.
The reality is that it takes money to run a campaign, and we have to gear up to get it until that changes. It's not just the million or so bucks she collected, but firming up support for the future. We do want to win, don't we? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |