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CNN's Joe Lockhart Argues Media Isn't Taking Bernie Sanders Seriously: 'Hard Floor of Supporters'

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By Connor Mannion Jan 11th, 2020, 7:01 pm

CNN commentator Joe Lockhart told S.E. Cupp on her show that he doesn’t think the media is seriously considering how Sen. Bernie Sanders could run away with the nomination.

“There’s real shades of 2016,” Lockhart said. “I’m gonna get flamed on Twitter tonight … but the media early on did not take Trump seriously. So they didn’t vet him and say, does your plan add up? And you know what about your plan on Iran and getting out?”

“Up until now, the media has not taken Bernie Sanders that seriously,” he continued.

“He would say the same thing,” Cupp interjected.

“And he’s been right,” Lockhart agreed.

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JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 OP
evertonfc Jan 2020 #1
BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #40
MH1 Jan 2020 #43
The Valley Below Jan 2020 #2
Hav Jan 2020 #21
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #3
Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #8
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #39
DownriverDem Jan 2020 #14
cannabis_flower Jan 2020 #18
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #24
guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20
MH1 Jan 2020 #44
DanieRains Jan 2020 #4
George II Jan 2020 #6
DanieRains Jan 2020 #9
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #19
The Valley Below Jan 2020 #36
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #45
msongs Jan 2020 #5
George II Jan 2020 #7
bluewater Jan 2020 #12
George II Jan 2020 #13
betsuni Jan 2020 #37
Va Lefty Jan 2020 #10
evertonfc Jan 2020 #11
Desert grandma Jan 2020 #22
ritapria Jan 2020 #15
Hav Jan 2020 #16
BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #41
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #17
NYMinute Jan 2020 #23
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #25
NYMinute Jan 2020 #26
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #28
NYMinute Jan 2020 #30
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #32
NYMinute Jan 2020 #34
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #35
NYMinute Jan 2020 #38
JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #27
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JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #31
NYMinute Jan 2020 #33
Hortensis Jan 2020 #42

Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:01 PM

1. as a Biden supporter

 

I'll say this. Bernie has a base that will walk over hot coals for him. He will energize the youth. His base is as loyal as Trumps. He better be taken seriously. I like Bernie and will support him.if he is nominee but I feel an undercurrent of momentum and Trump like underestimate with him.
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Response to evertonfc (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:19 AM

40. I'm pretty sure there's a term for that kind of devotion.

 

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Response to evertonfc (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:05 PM

43. If only he could have gotten them to work as hard to stop Trump in 2016

 

In my perception, he either did not try, or showed failure of leadership. We should not be going through what we are today, if only he could have mobilized that "base" he has. I talked to too many IRL that refused to vote for Hillary (in an important EC swing state). Had he given the word in a way they believed, they would have been out canvassing for her.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:02 PM

2. Sounds like Joe Lockhart is calling for Sanders to be vetted by the media...

 

and asking that they not repeat 2016 where according to him the media "did not take Trump seriously."

Sounds good to me.

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Response to The Valley Below (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:50 PM

21. Definitely sounds like it

 

For example, it feels the expectations for Warren to defend the feasibility of her healthcare plan were considerably higher.
So let's not repeat the mistake that was done with Trump again by applying a way higher standard to one side while letting everything else from the other pass because the prospect of that side participating in the election is just a joke anyways. The same mistake gave Trump the GOP nomination.
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:12 PM

3. Bernie will be taken VERY seriously in November when he clobbers Dolt45 & becomes the 46th POTUS!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:25 PM

8. It's no good! They're on to us!

 

Before you know it they will find out about the honeymoon in you know where!
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:25 AM

39. OMG!! NOOOOOO, NOT THAT... ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!

 




Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:36 PM

14. Are you aware

 

that if Bernie were to get the nomination. the political attack guns are loaded and ready to go? He has not been really vetted.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:48 PM

18. Trump had all kind of...

 

nasty stuff come out about him before he was elected and he still won because he had a large base. It could work the same way with Bernie.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:05 PM

24. BAM!!!!!!!!

 

Great point!!!!!!
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:50 PM

20. No matter the nominee, the GOP is ready with their attacks.

 

And the GOP will have the assistance of Russian trolls, and a US media that places profit above all else, and billions in dark money.
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:08 PM

44. Please pass me some of what you're smoking.

 

BS won't be the nominee, and if he were, it is unlikely he would beat Trump, after all the ads of him announcing that he is a socialist.
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:13 PM

4. There Is No One Who Has Worked Harder For Working Slobs Like Me Their Whole Life Than Benie

 

He is the only one that just comes out and says the 1% control everything.

Go Bernie.

I am not complaining about the other candidates who I like all of.

Bernie just points out the world's number on problem when the others skip around it.

Oligarchs run the country like their own cash machine. Having legislation written to further enrich the, and the oligarch owned media convincing all of us to not complain while we donate to their kids trust funds.

Other candidates have their strong points but this is the world's number one problem. One percent of the population has 90% of the power and 50% of the wealth.

The rest of us are supposed to fight over crumbs.
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Response to DanieRains (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:19 PM

6. Okay, so just what has he done for you?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:25 PM

9. Pointed Out The Problem My Friend

 

I really like Joe by the way.
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Response to DanieRains (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:49 PM

19. A sure sign of fear is when the person tries to shame you, instead of sticking to the subject...

 

...thanks for sticking to the subject DanieRains!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

36. Asking what Sanders has done for someone is "shaming" them?

 

On what universe?

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:41 PM

45. YES, EXCELLENT POINT!! THE FEAR THOUGH IS UNDERSTANDABLE GIVEN BERNIE'S LATEST SURGE IN THE POLLS!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:15 PM

5. another poor bernie is being blacked out by the media link lol nt

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:20 PM

7. He's been on four or five shows in the last few days. Quite a blackout, eh?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:31 PM

12. "in the last few days"

 

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Response to bluewater (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:36 PM

13. I know he was on three just yesterday,one or two more mid-week.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

37. I just saw him on The Late Show, owned by the corporate media conglomerate that

 

is supposedly doing blackouts. But I can't turn around without seeing Bernie! The corporate media conglomeration, billionaire and donor classes, corporations and industries, and the Democratic Establishment that will stop at nothing to thwart Bernie are really slacking off, man. Put some elbow grease into it.
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:28 PM

10. I initally backed Beto largely because I thought we need younger face of the Party

 

But I will support whoever the nominee is 100%! We have to defeat trump or we lose our Country.
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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:30 PM

11. me too and to be honest

 

when we run candidates under 55- we win. Go back to Carter.
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Response to evertonfc (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:53 PM

22. I like Bernie and would have voted for him in 2016

 

if he would have been the nominee. By the time our state votes, (June) things had been pretty well decided. I like him and his ideas, but I do not think he has any chance of winning in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If he somehow becomes the nominee, I will certainly vote for him, but I don't think he will win the general election. Yes, there are a lot of younger voters that support him, but I wonder how many will actually vote. The most reliable voters are older Americans. The GOP will spread fear among the independents, moderate Democrats, and never Trumpers with their "Socialist" label. Other candidates would fare much better among this group in my opinion. If by some chance Bernie becomes the nominee, I will vote for him but I fear we will be in for 4 more years of the Orange Madman in the White House.
Just an opinion from one of those older Americans.
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:41 PM

15. They have not taken Bernie seriously

 

because they are seriously DUMB ….All of Joe's insider friends think Bernie is crude, uncouth - a vulgarian ... Joe was a senior advisor for the John Kerry campaign ...That worked out swell …. Bernie has been vetted ….Remember , he ran for President in 2016 ...The media looked and looked and looked for dirt on Bernard .. Found nothing .. What is Joe afraid of ? ..Is he afraid the peasants are going to get the same quality of healthcare he gets ? … Is he afraid the children of the peasants are going to be able to send their kids to college ?.... Imagine the Nightmare
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Response to ritapria (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:42 PM

16. Wtf are you talking about?

 

I ask because you are usually very reasonable.
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Response to Hav (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:21 AM

41. You'll never get an answer

 

That person has not even once ever replied to another poster here. They offer ludicrously pro Bernie hot takes completely unsupported by facts and move on.
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Response to ritapria (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:47 PM

17. Good point that no one has found a bit of dirt about...

 

...Bernie!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:03 PM

23. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt

 

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:06 PM

25. HAhahahahhahahahahhahahahaha!

 

Back at ya!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:08 PM

26. I laughed because Bernie is done

 

caput.
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:12 PM

28. I always liked the old saying that; "He who laughs last,...

 

...laughs best" for Bernie!

Ok, I added to the saying a bit!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

30. He is finished man

 

He has no centrist support, he has no African-American support. His goose will be cooked in the South and the mid-West. There are fewer caucuses this time around for activists to bully. It is over.

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:19 PM

32. It's not over until...

 

...Joe concedes to Bernie!

No need to shame anyone, anytime because Bernie is winning!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #32)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:27 PM

34. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt

 

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:33 PM

35. Back to where you started! ntn

 

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

38. No amount of koolaid will help

 

It is funny as hell
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:10 PM

27. When the news media does begin to notice Bernie and vetting him fully, they will find that Bernie...

 

...really knows his stuff!

Just another reason why Bernie will be our 46th!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:12 PM

29. NY Daily News alread vetted

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

31. I trust the voters to make the right vetting calls at our convention when we...

 

...nominate Bernie!
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:27 PM

33. He dismally flunked the NY Daily News vetting interview

 

He has been treated with kid gloves by everyone else. trump will go for the jugular and we'll have something worse than McGovern on our hands -- plus we'll lose the house and senate with Bernie's negative coattails.

there just aren't enough devotees to pull off a nationwide win.
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:52 PM

42. And it'll take devotees/zealots if the press will cover him properly.

 

I remember how flabbergasting that interview was -- to the editorial board, not just me. After over 25 years in congress and running for president on strong declarations of what he'd do, he had very little idea how government could be used to implement his dreams. His answer was that he'd make the promises now and later get experts who would know how.



He's no Trump; Trump far surpasses him in I believe every one of their various resemblances. But if there were no Trump, Sanders' ignorance would have been the most shocking for the circumstances I'd ever run into. Apparently he had limited interest in how the different branches of government work, plus all his passions had always been no more than dreams he didn't expect to need to know anything about? Including the most recent one of how to destroy the Obama administration's great achievement and use his claimed need to do that to run for president on. He's still figuring he'll hire experts to pull off the promised replacement.
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