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Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies.
Bad enough that a tyrant is destroying American democracy. Now an oligarch is trying to buy the presidency.
Michael Bloombergs net worth is over $60 billion. The yearly return on $60 billion is at least $2 billion which is what Bloomberg says hell pour into buying the highest office in the land.
Im not saying that great wealth should disqualify you from becoming president. America has had some talented and capable presidents who were enormously wealthy Franklin D. Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, for example.
The problem lies at the nexus of wealth and power, where those with great wealth use it to gain great power. This is how oligarchy destroys democracy.
So far, Bloomberg spent over $380 million on campaign advertising. Thats more than Hillary Clinton spent on advertising during her entire presidential run. Its multiples of what all other Democratic candidates have spent, including billionaire Tom Steyer.
Encouraged by the murky outcome from the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries, Bloomberg has doubled his spending on TV commercials in every market where he is currently advertising and is expanding his campaigns field staff to more than 2,000.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/robert-reich-bloomberg-wants-to-buy-our-democracy/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,573 posts)Somebody's going to buy.
In 2016 it was Trump.
In 2020 if it comes down to Trump or Bloomie, yes, we are better off with Bloomie.
If the Dems could get their act together and get behind a credible candidate who can win (note: won't happen with an avowed socialist), then we may not have to make that terrible choice.
Let's get it together, Dems!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I find Bloomberg to be the wrong choice on numerous levels.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,573 posts)Ever since the death of campaign finance reform. (Which started bleeding to death well before Citizens United.)
And I know that Robert Reich KNOWS that.
I would like to see us nominate a candidate who can overcome the mega-marketing driven nature of today's campaigns. But I don't see an Obama this year (yet). I was hoping Warren would catch hold - she's sure made a positive impression on me. Maybe she will yet catch fire with the wider public.
The reality is also that Bloomie is less evil and far less dangerous than Trump. So yes, we should keep him in our back pocket. That part is not cynical, it's prudent.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I refuse to accept his history at this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Unless and until we can enact comprehensive campaign finance reform - like most democracies, besides tropical money laundries, have - we might as well learn to fight fire with fire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Locrian
(4,522 posts)And it's amazing to see people lining up behind him to follow off the cliff.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Locrian
(4,522 posts)People liked trump so they could "stick it to the libtards"
Bloomberg's appeal is similar: A (perceived / false) chance to "stick it to trump" but at, wow. What a price....
Selling your soul (democracy) is not a good deal.
Thing is - he'd lose. He has TONS of baggage and skeletons in the closet. He'd get slaughtered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Bloomberg is not who he says he is.
People, so THIS is the man you want me to vote for, a man who would vacillate on Trumps racist birtherism while calling Trump his friend and a New York icon?! Not happening, EVER!!!
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
not fooled
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kitchari
(2,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)doing it himself instead of hitting up other people. He can't buy democracy, he can't buy votes, he can't buy loyalty, unless people let him. You can put the dog food in front of the dogs, they'll either eat it or they won't, LOL.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)interference by rump using Ukraine? What about the other illegal (and those still not yet known about) attempts to blindside the election with questionable doubts of candidates of good repute? rump is by far the worse, absolute worse tyrant ... Bloomberg's been exposed, his faults and no faults exposed for all to see, not hidden like rump has done pathetically w/ every part of his life, no tax returns (because of fake audit claims (which doesn't stop one from still providing the returns)), etc.
I don't think so. trump has already spent at least 300 mil (he has some money still left too), all of the candidates spent $100 mil or so in Iowa, that all that I know so far. It's expensive for anyone to run. We all know that. At least we don't have to spend any addl money in going after rump, Bloomberg is hitting rump everywhere, with some pretty decent ads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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hangaleft
(649 posts)Im not at all surprised, just chagrined that our democracy can be bought with an onslaught of advertising geared toward people who dont pay attention to politics or what the candidate running those ads has done in the past.
We have far better options than Bloomberg. Its my fervent hope that well go with one of those better options (and I dont mean Bernie, whose policies I support but whose candidacy would be a disaster).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)choice. Your right and my right to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hangaleft
(649 posts)I just wont give my vote during the primaries to an oligarch who supported a heinous, racist policy for *years* and was still defending it as recently as 2015. Gabbard would be the only candidate Id rank lower than Bloomberg in my choice for the Democratic nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)whether he makes a splash in the primaries or not. He's a good ad man, but a poor (IMO) choice for the nomination. So I'd gladly accept his ads if it gets Trump out of office.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
napi21
(45,806 posts)him for accomplishing something very few have been able to do, EVER! If the rest of the candidates are smart, they'll copy the message & tactics that are working for Bloomberg and include them in their own campaign. Then when they get the same attention, convince the voters who is the best to vote for.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hangaleft
(649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)presented to the public. All the candidates are already running ads. Maybe TV, or the net, or radio, etc. The poster said Bloomberg was getting to the people who don't pay attention to politics. I think at least part of his presentation is what's getting through to the politically disinterested. If that's true, then copy that style!
!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I would ask why that is? It is hard for me to process due to my own biases, really.
I would appreciate knowing what brought you to that opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Bloomberg is all about going after Trump. He has yet to attack a single one of his primary opponents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I can understand that.
I tend to appreciate Reich for his presentations of information mostly, (and he has a good grasp on that) and I have a real problem with inequality and oppose/distrust oligarchy, as I have mentioned in other posts in depth. Though I do appreciate the salvos at Trump, too.
Heheh. We are two sides of the coin, it seems.
Appreciate the info, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)Yup.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)the candidate who doesn't begin every day by spray painting himself orange. It's that simple. It's not a decision that requires a great deal of intellect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kablooie
(18,610 posts)but I expect him to at least be a president that respects the Constitution and the rule of law.
The only thing important in this election is to defeat Trump.
Nothing else matters for if Trump isn't defeated all other policies and proposals may never see the light of day.
In a normal election I would be disgusted with Bloomberg buying his place but right now it seems like he may be the best shot we have at retaining the country we hold dear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)He is not Trump but his history is horrific. We can do much better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jr1118x
(97 posts)What in his history makes you think he will respect the law. Did he respect Term limits? Did he respect the law when they made minimum wage on companies with govt contracts $10 an hour. He veto'd it, his veto was overridden then he sued the city lost his law suit and then on the way out sues them again. He seems like the rules dont apply to me type of person.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,292 posts)If anything he's paying to get rid of trump. Whoever runs, it's going to take a whole shitload of cash to do it. By the time our candidate gets out of the convention, he (she) is going to be broke compared to the mountain of cash the R's are going start out with. It's not a pretty situation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
He's buying attention. He'll have to earn the votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zeus69
(391 posts)Steyer spent more than all the candidates combined in NH and look how that worked out...
Bloombergs not forcing anyone to vote for him. In time, the issues and platform posters here think are disqualifying, will be vetted. If hes last man standing, then thats what we got.
The RNC has about 300 million in the bank and there will be at least 1 billion more dollars in dark money filtering its way to pursue Republican interests in November.
I know Mike has committed to support the Democratic nominee if it isnt him. Maybe Im paranoid, but I still have some pause how that will shake out if the nominee is Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CanonRay
(14,084 posts)There's not much left
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CanonRay
(14,084 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)We're voting for someone who can defeat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Defeating Trump is MY goal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)I agree with you about not liking how low tRump and his party of putin have lowered the bar of politics et al. It takes a lot out of you trying to have a conversation with someone who doesn't understand or know that this country could be on it's last legs if tRump gets a whole 8 year term to finish us/our democracy off.
However, we're at a point in our democracy where if we get treasonous fat ass in the oval office for a whole 8 year term, this country won't exist as we knew it. There won't even be a low bar left. Just party of putin swill, lies, treason and lawlessness--and 'them' getting away with everything--and Dems/others having to accept/take it. The former GOP, now the party of putin, will be installed permanently. Who'll stop tRump/them from doing that? Susan "He's going to be a good boy now" Collins? You see what he and his fat, pardon-loving, lawless slug Barr have done today in further destroying the WHOLE apparatus of 'justice' in America. tRump/Barr are breaking the laws of our country in plain sight by weaponizing the DOJ. He & Barr are emboldened as all hell. Nothing from the party of putin on all of this lawlessness though. There won't be any Dem party if he/his party of putin get their way, and that's to have a one party rule of putin forever.
Who in hell wants tRump then him possibly appointing his rotten-ass, law-breaking, grifting kids in succession to the presidency, or should I say tRumputin Monarchy? Again, I'm not fond of nor would I vote for Bloomberg as POTUS if I had other better choices (Scary thing is that I don't think he wouldn't destroy every norm socially/politically of this county like tRump's doing). But if he somehow is the nominee, he'd have my lesser of two evils vote. I also appreciate the fact that he's not attacking any Dems and that he is spending HUGE monies to attack and take tRump and the party of putin, because we know that the new party of putin will be spending BILLIONSin Citizen's United/Dark monies to defeat Dems using their lies/smears/lawlessness/gerrymandering/flat out cheating this fall all across this country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Any of the others would not govern as he would.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Bloomberg can beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)I hate to admit it, but I believe this 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻, because Bloomberg WILL fight back with that fool all day LONG if he has to because of his much deeper pockets and what could be one hell of a ground game.
I have many friends, ex-military of all stripes and colors, who tell me that they'd vote for Bloomberg in a heart beat if he gets the Dem nomination if it means keeping tRump out of the White House. I ask them about Bloomberg and all of his very noticeable warts, and they tell me in no certain terms that if tRump steals another election, this country is DONE. One friend is a friend of Malcolm Nance, so I know he's not talking out of his rear end, because Malcolm Nance has talked for several years about what tRump has been doing, and he's not been off on his facts much. He's been pretty damn accurate unfortunately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(6,899 posts)vs Trump, it's an easy choice.
The Bloomberg ads I've seen are all anti-Trump, pro-Bloomberg which is a good thing. He's also pledged to continue his spending to defeat Trump even if he is not the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)That is why I am posting about him during the primary, he is unfit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(6,899 posts)He's not among my top three picks, but he is more acceptable to me than some.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)In another part of the article, it says that Bloomberg has already spent more on advertising then Hillary did in her entire campaign.
"So far, Bloomberg spent over $380 million on campaign advertising. Thats more than Hillary Clinton spent on advertising during her entire presidential run. Its multiples of what all other Democratic candidates have spent, including billionaire Tom Steyer."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/robert-reich-bloomberg-wants-to-buy-our-democracy/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)You may also want to research what's Bloomberg is doing regarding climate change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)is indefensible to me. We can and must do better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Trump's record is horrific and we see that every day. Defeating him is priority number 1 with many of us. Of al lthe candidate, I believe Bloomberg has the finances, smarts and skill to bring Trump down.
Bloomberg has a staff that's 3 times larger then Trumps. Bloomberg can outspend Trump every day of the year without having to spend one minute fund raising. Bloomberg is donating millions to down ticket Democrats. Being self financed, Bloomberg will not be a drain on the parties funds. That money will be free to spend on down ticket races, increasing the chances of adding to our hold on the House and maybe even taking the Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Tom Steyer's already done a lot on climate change. All without screwing over black people in the process.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,072 posts)to keep large donors from donating to other candidates. He doesn't want their money, he just wants to clear the field by making it dry up for others.
Trading one authoritarian oligarch for another is positive in that Bloomberg appears to be sane and hates minorities less, but that's a pretty low bar and it is sad that it appears to be the way many would like to go.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)How is Bloomberg keeping these "large" donors from contributing?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)the other day)...just FYI.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)Thanks for the thread BeckyDem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Traildogbob
(8,674 posts)There is a discontinued sale, I am thinking. He is a Wall Street gambler, buy it at its lowest value. Right now it seems America places no value on democracy, 100 million did not even vote. The real money maker is Fascism. Guess we deserve what we get. MAGA
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)We just might have to make a stand to protect our Democracy and our very lives.
I really dislike boots stamping on my face - forever.
I can't wait to see what our response might be.
Interesting times we live in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)buying himself a stage he has not earned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)on donations, would he be more entitled to run? Why has he not "earned" his stage?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)The others spent a lot of money and their time, but he just bankrolls it and pays people to get around it.
I am stunned by the fact Booker and Kamala Harris are out but this guy keeps rolling in due to his money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)campaigns, usually it doesn't work and it's risky. He missed out on the first four contests, that's a pretty severe penalty for getting in late. Kamala and Booker had a longer time to introduce themselves and figure out a campaign (and for Kamala, lots of initial favorable press attention) and it didn't work for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)donors or foreign interests or illegal means. Being able to bypass the donor circus doesn't mean he's inherently evil.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Heres How Much You Can Make if You Sell Out for Bloomberg
Have a few thousand social media followers? You can score $150. Willing to join his campaign? You can make a LOT more.
by Harry Cheadle
Feb 14 2020, 11:27am
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkeze7/heres-how-much-you-can-make-if-you-sell-out-for-bloomberg
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)Bloomberg, whether anyone likes him or not, is working at winning the nomination too. I don't see his campaign in a different light than anyone else's, except that he gets to bypass the money chase, which is an option he earned for himself. If he won't participate in debates, then I will think he is trying to bypass any kind of campaigning beyond advertising, and that would probably doom his campaign. But until then he's still a legitimate candidate, with the right to do exactly what he's doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)many other worthy candidates in the past to help them get elected, he's spearheaded efforts for gun laws, he absolutely has every right to skip any primaries or caucuses he wants to skip, and one persistent thing that he is getting blamed wrongly for, is seemingly creating the practice of redlining and thus causing the 2008 market collapse. Utter nonsense. Bloomberg was no where around this disaster caused by the lack of republican oversight.
Redlining was done by Banks and the Insurance Industry. No one else. In their eagerness to generate even more income, these characters faked up the grading of a list of properties/real estate (made grades very good instead of terrible) that mortgaged backed securities were comprised of.
When a couple of companies went south (Lehman Brothers to start), the whole mess started to collapse and tens of thousands of properties, that backed $billions and $billions of dollars of mortgage backed securities were found to be worthless (when margin calls were made, the assets discovered were worthless in effect).
The faked ratings extended to the mortgage backed securities (to get a better price) dragged the whole market down. IMHO, not all of the bad players in these events have been caught and/or punished. They still have a lot of work to get these people who pushed for fake, positive grades for these mortgage backed securities.
With candidates running out of money and dropping out of the campaign? This tells me about their management skills, a little. Why run to begin with if you didn't have the money? It's not like rocket science to know that running for president in this country is expensive. Insanely expensive. Bloomberg has obviously proven that he's got the money (w/ all of the ads, the campaign staff, the accepting of no donations, etc.), rump in reality has proven NOTHING. All we get is a constant run around about his health, his finances, his businesses, everything. Constantly. To me, this tells me of someone who wants to hide the truth and tells me that in fact, he doesn't have any money that he's been claiming. So his so called vaunted skillset isn't so skilled after all, isn't it?
Bloomberg is an exposed, and known personality. There are some who no matter what, won't support Bloomberg no matter what the list of positives are provided (for Bloomberg). That's fine, but don't mock me or others for our choices. We all, as Americans, have every right to chose anyone we want for president and vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)and in fact was impressed by his grasp of what was going on back then. He's just always a business/finance guy, or a mayor (as with stop and frisk), I don't think he viewed things through other than those two lenses--didn't see civil liberty problems or discrimination, just saw law-and-order or bad loans. Hopefully he's sincerely changed, but I can see why Democratic voters may not want to give him the benefit of the doubt. That's fair enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Especially one who has 12 years of executive experience and who has been re-elected twice from a diverse electorate.
There are multiple ways to raise funds for a campaign. At least we know where Bloomberg's comes from. I'm pretty sure some candidates are getting a lot of donations from MAGAt's because they want that candidate to win the Dem primary. Not so much with Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Bernie and his brigade focus attacks on the Democratic Party candidates running.
This is why I support Bloomberg.
this is why I support ANY Democratic Party Candidate BUT Bernie 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Link to tweet
Michael Bloomberg addresses his prior support for city's handling of Central Park Five case
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-bloomberg-addresses-his-prior-support-for-handling-of-central-park-five-case-2019-12-30/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/bloomberg-once-blamed-end-of-redlining-for-2008-economic-collapse
Why Is Bloomberg's Long History of Egregious Sexism Getting a Pass?
The surging Democratic presidential candidate and Bloomberg LP have fielded nearly 40 sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuits over decades.
By Laura Bassett
February 13, 2020
Mike Bloomberg with antiwoman sign collaged on top of his image
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Ain't biting any of this bullshit internal attacks against our candidates.
ANY Democratic Party candidate BUT BS 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Not giving ANY credibility to any of this bullshit being drudged up from the Russian backed Bernie propaganda machine that has been getting used to attack Biden, O'Rourke, Harris, and even his longtime agenda ally Elizabeth warren.
I support the candidate that's going directly for Trump. Not using his campaign money, campaign staff, and supporter surrogates to attack fellows in the Democratic party while only paying an occasional minor jab at Trump himself.
No thanks, and I don't give a shit whatever his propaganda machine comes up with.
Bloomberg 2020.. the one that knows he's running against Trump and not the Democratic Party.
OR
ANY of our Democratic Party candidates BUT BS 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)That happened years ago.
At this point in time, how can "we" who believes in freedom, take it back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)But we do not have to support what Bloomberg is doing. How we take it back, one amendment at a time, and more replacements of Republicans, we crush them politically. I believe we can do this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)2001 he ran as a R and had Guilianis endorsement. $73 million of his own money spent.
2005 still an R but this time he spent $78 million of his own money.
2009 he said he needed to extend term limits because of the financial crisis. That election was riddled with controversy. He spent over $100 million on that one. Read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg
From The Atlantic in 2009
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/11/how-bloomberg-got-away-with-buying-new-york/347685/
MayorMichael Bloomberg of New York City has spent over $100 million on his reelection campaign against Democrat Bill Thompson. No candidate has ever spent more of his private fortune on a single political campaign. (This does not make it the most expensive campaign--President Barack Obama raised, and presumably spent, $150 million in a single month of his 2008 campaign.) Bloomberg, an independent candidate, has spent $245 million of his $16 billion fortune on this and his previous two mayoral campaigns. He has also come under fire for using political leverage to circumvent term limits that would have precluded the third term he is now all but guaranteed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)He is not who he says he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)sickens me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
randr
(12,409 posts)No one gains any office, anywhere, without paying for it. We have long noted that the winning candidate is usually who spends the most. Citizens United put the nail in election reforms coffin and we are living in that world, we need to get used to it.
Our best chance is to have someone run with the dough to beat Trump and I think we have one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,614 posts)why reject someone on our side who can counter that??
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)If it comes to me having to cast that vote for him to defeat Chump, I will do so, but from that point onward, will be dreading any future consequences that will come about as the result of that vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,614 posts)I dread that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Its a primary race right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CanonRay
(14,084 posts)I prefer bought. I guess. If I have to pick one. Ugh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)That's an offer of tens of thousands of dollars to lots of people. That's as much "buying an election" as anything Bloomberg is doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden