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Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:43 AM

 

Hillary was a more formidable candidate than Joe Biden.

Hillary was (and is) smarter, far more politically savvy, less prone to making gaffes, more in touch, was full of good policy ideas and had a wider appeal than Joe Biden.

Hillary couldnít beat Trump. What makes any of you think that Joe Biden will do better than Hillary Clinton?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply Hillary was a more formidable candidate than Joe Biden. (Original post)
PTWB Mar 2020 OP
squirecam Mar 2020 #1
tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #2
PTWB Mar 2020 #3
JudyM Mar 2020 #8
NYMinute Mar 2020 #4
IluvPitties Mar 2020 #5
W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #6
William769 Mar 2020 #7
SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #9
budkin Mar 2020 #10
potone Mar 2020 #11
tman Mar 2020 #12

Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:45 AM

1. Hillary was hated by the right.

 

She still got more votes.

As to why Biden can win, see the moderates taking the house in 2018.
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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:46 AM

2. Hillary was much more disliked and much less relatable. Biden will be fine. eom

 

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:21 PM

3. Hillary had a fanatical fanbase.

 

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Response to PTWB (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:44 PM

8. "Had?"

 

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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

4. Hillary was maligned and smeared by some of our own

 

She was the most admired woman in 2015

Then in 2016, she was labeled corrupt by some
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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

5. Likability.

 

Hillary had been vilified by the right since 1992. Biden is well liked across the board.
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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

6. Because no one is going to buy Republican/Russian/Green Party shit this time around.

 

They shouldn't have bought their shit last time around, but alas, here we are.

In case you forgot, there have been elections since 2016. And in 2018, the Joe Biden/Hillary Clinton types were the ones flipping seats and winning back the House on the back of the greatest voter turnout for a midterm in around a century.
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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:29 PM

7. Bernie couldn't beat Hillary.

 

So what's your point?

P.S & Warren so far this primary, well we won't go there.
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Response to PTWB (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

9. I don't think so. On paper she was stronger than Obama and she was beaten

 

On paper, she was stronger than Trump but she started wasting time and money in Arizona and other red states rather than concentrate in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

Biden, no matter his flaws, connects viscerally with white working class Dems, African American Dems and independents. If he gets past Sanders, he will steam roll Trump on the electoral map.
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Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

10. Yes but her negatives were WAY higher

 

Not even close.
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Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

11. I agree with part of your assessment.

 

She is much more intelligent than Biden, but she suffered from the cumulative effect of years of vicious criticism, and misogyny. But here is the thing: I am very worried about Biden winning, because I think he is suffering from cognitive decline. If people want someone to the right of Bernie, why donít they support Amy? She is smart, competent, and effective.
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Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:18 AM

12. Joe has something not many politicians have.

 

authenticity, in abundance.
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