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Voltaire2

(12,626 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:43 AM Apr 2019

Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He's Part of the 1%.

WASHINGTON — Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a leading candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, disclosed 10 years of tax returns on Monday, providing a more detailed look at his finances than what he offered when he ran for the White House in 2016.

The returns show that Mr. Sanders’s earnings shot up after his first presidential bid, when he built up a vast national following. He and his wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders, reported income that topped $1 million in 2016 and 2017, lifted by proceeds from his books.

The couple had an adjusted gross income of $561,293 in 2018, according to their most recent tax return. Mr. Sanders had about $393,000 in book income last year, and he and his wife reported giving nearly $19,000 to charity.

Their federal taxes came to $145,840, for an effective federal tax rate of 26 percent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/bernie-sanders-taxes.html

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Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He's Part of the 1%. (Original Post) Voltaire2 Apr 2019 OP
Woah Dude! Turbineguy Apr 2019 #1
I know rite! Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #2
No doubt about it. It wasn't a secret that he is a one percenter. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #3
That doesn't bother me in the slightest. However, the fact that he hired 3 people to his campaign still_one Apr 2019 #4
lol. iamthebandfanman Apr 2019 #8
and 1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted for Trump in 2016, and I can supply a lilnk still_one Apr 2019 #11
Sure, we can play the link game.. iamthebandfanman Apr 2019 #12
I appreciate your defense, but from my perspective, hiring three people who voted for Jill Stein still_one Apr 2019 #13
And some of those Bernie supporters artislife Apr 2019 #15
I have zero issues with this Dem4Life101 Apr 2019 #5
The Kennedys & Roosevelts were 1-percenters, too. JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #6
Better not ever nominate any congressperson from a dual income family with investments Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #7
Its a non issue, yaWn... yaesu Apr 2019 #9
For a Senator this is Poverty McKim Apr 2019 #10
1%...really? Chakaconcarne Apr 2019 #14
start trouble? cause a rift? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #18
The big nothing burger. Snotcicles Apr 2019 #16
MOP aisle 4. nt Snotcicles Apr 2019 #17
NOTZTHEWINE! Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #19
He's got a nice coat I hear... aidbo Apr 2019 #20
but not a mink coat Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #21
 

Turbineguy

(37,212 posts)
1. Woah Dude!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:44 AM
Apr 2019

We'd better keep trump!

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Voltaire2

(12,626 posts)
2. I know rite!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:47 AM
Apr 2019

I can't imagine why this was ever an issue. But many people were very concerned. So I thought they would be relieved to know that his taxes are still in a released state this morning.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
3. No doubt about it. It wasn't a secret that he is a one percenter.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:47 AM
Apr 2019

His wealth dramatically increased since he began running for President.

It good he released his taxes so we can move on. It should have never dragged on as long as it did. Others lead the way and it was something he had to do.

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still_one

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4. That doesn't bother me in the slightest. However, the fact that he hired 3 people to his campaign
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:54 AM
Apr 2019

to high positions, who not only voted for Jill Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise, up to the night before the election, is extremely troublesome to me.

It says to me he has no problem pushing a "Bernie or Bust strategy":

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-17/-bernie-or-bust-voters-create-predicament-for-democrats-in-2020

‘Bernie or Bust’ Voters Create Predicament for Democrats in 2020

By Sahil Kapur
April 17, 2019, 10:00 AM GMT+2

For a sliver of Sanders’ base, it’s Bernie or bust. They may detest President Donald Trump, but they didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton and they’re not sure they’ll back the Democratic nominee in 2020 if Sanders isn’t on the ballot. They’re willing do whatever it takes to push the party to adopt his ideas.

“Sometimes things have to get ugly before they get better,” said Melissa Mallaber, a 46-year-old social worker who attended Sanders’ rally in Pittsburgh on Sunday. “There’s such a thing as necessary evils in life to restore the balance.”

Mallaber said she cast a write-in vote for Sanders in 2016 rather than go along with a Democratic establishment choice who wouldn’t take bold action on issues like health care and climate change. “People had to wake up,” she said. “If we had another Clinton in office what would have changed?”

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Dunaj, 76, said at Sanders’ rally Saturday in Macomb County, Michigan. “In other words, Trump wins, but we wouldn’t let it happen again.”

Dunaj said she backed Stein in 2016 and doesn’t know how she’d vote in 2020 if Sanders isn’t the nominee.

The die-hard Sanders fans often describe politics as a binary struggle between a wealthy ruling class and ordinary workers who are being exploited, and they see centrist Democrats as part of the problem. And they’re wholly unpersuaded by the argument that they should vote for a moderate Democrat over a Republican as the lesser of two evils.
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Hope Larkin-Begley, a computer programmer in Pennsylvania, came to the rally wearing a Sanders 2020 button, hat, sign and a peace-sign shirt with his name on it. She voted for Stein in 2016 and has no regrets about the outcome, saying the election of Trump “ripped the veneer off the ruling class” and steered the Democratic Party in the more left-wing direction of Sanders.

“If Hillary had won we’d be going down the same incrementalism road,” she said. “It’s better to have a buffoon rather than a civilized smooth-talking charlatan.”

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iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
8. lol.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:19 AM
Apr 2019

15% of Hillary supporters in 2008 voted for mccain in the general election because they were so salty Obama won.. but hey, i guess we'll just pretend that never happened..

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still_one

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11. and 1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted for Trump in 2016, and I can supply a lilnk
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:28 AM
Apr 2019
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

However, I am not talking about supporters of a candidate, I am talking about when the candidate themselves hires people in their campaign who voted for Jill Stein, and encouraged others to do likewise.

Clinton endorsed President Obama when he received the nomination in 2008, and not encouraged her supporters to vote for him in the general election
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iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
12. Sure, we can play the link game..
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:34 AM
Apr 2019

if youd like.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx

dont think those supporters tried to get others to do the same?
dont think some of those folks ended up working/helping on her second campaign ?

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still_one

(91,965 posts)
13. I appreciate your defense, but from my perspective, hiring three people who voted for Jill Stein
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019

to one's campaign, is a big difference.

Regardless, I will vote WHOEVER the Democratic nominee in 2020, just as I did in 2016


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artislife

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15. And some of those Bernie supporters
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:32 AM
Apr 2019

Were not Democrats to begin with, they were part of the never bother to vote. Well, they got engaged. They were never going to vote for Hillary to begin with. So the party didn't lose votes, the party couldn't convert those votes to the primary winner.

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Dem4Life101

(14 posts)
5. I have zero issues with this
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:01 AM
Apr 2019

Just because a person is successful and their income grew does not mean he is not fighting for the poor & working class of America.

Bernie would be a great President. You would see major change in this country to benefit working class & poor.

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JaneQPublic

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6. The Kennedys & Roosevelts were 1-percenters, too.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:02 AM
Apr 2019

Wealth doesn't prevent a politician from being effective champions for the less fortunate.

My only problem with the Bernie's recent prosperity from book sales is his surprising remark that "If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too."

That sounds very similar to the wealthy conservative GOPer mindset that "I'm wealthy because I deserve it, and you're poor because you deserve it."

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Freethinker65

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7. Better not ever nominate any congressperson from a dual income family with investments
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:06 AM
Apr 2019

Seriously.

If Bernie, with a high paid working spouse, was broke and in debt, or declared multiple bankruptcies, after years of work in the house and Senate, I would be more concerned. That might indicate financial mismanagement.

Bernie's money is of NO concern to me.

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yaesu

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9. Its a non issue, yaWn...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:20 AM
Apr 2019
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McKim

(2,412 posts)
10. For a Senator this is Poverty
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:25 AM
Apr 2019

For a senator, this is at the low end of net worth. Someone tries to make something big out of nothing! What is that about?

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Chakaconcarne

(2,387 posts)
14. 1%...really?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:15 AM
Apr 2019

Sounds like upper middle class to me...

...and a post that appears to just want to start trouble and cause a rift here...

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Voltaire2

(12,626 posts)
18. start trouble? cause a rift?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:59 AM
Apr 2019

It is a news report from the NYT about Senator Sanders.

I do know that many people were very concerned about these tax returns. This should help them.

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Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
16. The big nothing burger.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:35 AM
Apr 2019

Antonio Porchia: Don't uncover because there might be nothing and nothing can't be covered again.
So whats next for the Manufactured Outrage Posse
If we dig a little deeper maybe it will be revealed he enjoys an occasional glass of wine?

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Voltaire2

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19. NOTZTHEWINE!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:00 AM
Apr 2019

yoouse done it now. This will be YUUUUGE!

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aidbo

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20. He's got a nice coat I hear...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:38 AM
Apr 2019
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Voltaire2

(12,626 posts)
21. but not a mink coat
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:52 AM
Apr 2019

I wonder how many here got the reference.

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