Indeed.

I've actually heard some of them calling in on hate radio.

Wish we had more people like her in the world. Thanks for posting this, Judi Lynn!

Excellent news! Plame and Wilson would be great additions to the campaign!

Valerie Plame Wilson has certainly seen enough to know. Adds heft and credibility galore.

Ouch.

GREAT post, bvar22!

Shackled to the F-35 project is the whole bullshit notion we're still clinging to - of 20th Century warfare. Hey, we're in the 21st Century now. Warfare is now being fought guerrilla-style, whether it's ISIS or Anonymous or rogue hackers. If we're clinging to old shit like the F-35 which IS completely unsustainable and nonsensical to spend the time, energy, and money to keep the damned thing (that doesn't even work) propped up, we are NOT equipping ourselves to fight wars in the 21st Century. OR we have to get really serious about waging peace. Disarming as many of us as possible. (Yeah, I know. I know.) Maybe we need to start pushing in earnest on both fronts. Decreased demand. Plus smarter more sustainable supply for the demand you can't quite wipe out yet.

A very instructive post, PatrickforO!

Thank you for this! When I see how it's laid out such that the net result would be thousands of jobs lost, I immediately start wondering - well, what ELSE could that business do? What ELSE could that factory build? How could they adjust to changing times? As for the Denver industry of guided missile and space vehicle manufacturing that's cited here, we've got a serious climate change crisis developing. What kind of responses to those problems could this industry develop? Couldn't that absorb a lot of the job losses? Does that mean we just trash the whole works - when there's space vehicle manufacturing going on? Why can't THAT be geared up? After all, it's starting to make sense, as we insist on poisoning our own nest and overpopulating and ruining this planet, to start considering colonies OFF the planet - in orbiting space stations, the transport to and from same, the moon, and maybe down the proverbial road, Mars, perhaps with terra-forming of some sort? Seems to me that's the stuff of planet-loads of jobs!

And if it's already established that the damn thing doesn't work, but we supposedly still need a "fighter jet of record", well, where are the designers, developers, programmers, and test-departments, who are working on a better response WHILE the rest of us are wringing our hands on the horns of this presumably unsolvable dilemma? We could be solving it RIGHT THIS MINUTE. Where is the retooling? Where is the repurposing? From what I've read about America's shifting gears from a peacetime economy to a wartime economy - almost literally overnight? Detroit was able to make the switch, building tanks and airplanes instead of cars. Why isn't this some sort of Manhattan Project of the 21st Century?

Because frankly, it just doesn't make sense to continue to prop up something that's widely regarded as wasteful and doesn't even work. Sooner or later you're gonna have to stop doing that. Sooner or later, that boil is just gonna have to be lanced. It's like - how long does one keep digging? A ridiculously expensive, high-maintenance, almost-useless white elephant is UNSUSTAINABLE.

I'm not trying to sound simplistic, either. I think these are questions that are going to (and that need to) come up and demand answers - as we, as a nation AND as a planet, expand further into the 21st Century and face increasing kinds of 21st Century problems. It's how, in the same way, if we're smart as a species, we'll start looking at solutions like water desalinization and transport, infrastructure modernization, minimization of fossil fuel dependence, alternatives to destroying the rain forests, and other economic pursuits that, seems to me, would create tons of jobs all over everywhere. How many jobs could be created by that kid who devised a way to corral and clean up the mess in the Pacific Trash Gyre? Okay - that's over ten years, and there's already more than one Trash Gyre, and it's a colossal, global clean-up project. Did someone say JOBS?

I just don't understand why there's an implied stop sign that inevitably comes with a moment of facing reality about an unsustainable make-work project. Why aren't we already busy developing alternatives?

Awwwww... So cute!

Yes, this is the Hillary Group, but thanks for posting this.

We look forward to welcoming you onto the team! I've been a fan of hers for a long time, and I'm SO looking forward to voting for the First Woman President! I've been waiting all my life to vote for the First Woman President! We've had 44 presidents and they've ALL been men. Time for a change!

Plenty of their own words to jam back down their own throats!

Hypocrisy much?

LOVE these!

Thank you DesertFlower!